I have often joined with the crowd who feels that Wfaa is going down the tube but Hanson's rant on T.O. and J.J. was outstanding. You can see it on the Wfaa website. The line about the rain being Landry's and Murchison's tears was artistic. Hanson is a realist and his chiding the public about our lower standards was thoughtful and well said.
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Dale Hanson Unpluged
- Thread starter justateach
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IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale. He’s going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report on them. Including me, I know of at least three people who are not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder if Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial sports. I don't find anything professional about it.
Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
R
Flame away…
> I have often joined with the crowd who feels that Wfaa is
> going down the tube but Hanson's rant on T.O. and J.J. was
> outstanding. You can see it on the Wfaa website. The line
> about the rain being Landry's and Murchison's tears was
> artistic. Hanson is a realist and his chiding the public
> about our lower standards was thoughtful and well said.
Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial sports. I don't find anything professional about it.
Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
R
Flame away…
> I have often joined with the crowd who feels that Wfaa is
> going down the tube but Hanson's rant on T.O. and J.J. was
> outstanding. You can see it on the Wfaa website. The line
> about the rain being Landry's and Murchison's tears was
> artistic. Hanson is a realist and his chiding the public
> about our lower standards was thoughtful and well said.
> IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale. He’s
> going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report on
> them. Including me, I know of at least three people who are
> not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder if
> Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
>
> Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial sports.
> I don't find anything professional about it.
>
> Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
>
> R
>
> Flame away…
>
Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news if his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his spots?
Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just about anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers World Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform us that hell has officially frozen over]).<P ID="signature">______________
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound as they go by." - Douglas Adams
dan</P>
> going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report on
> them. Including me, I know of at least three people who are
> not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder if
> Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
>
> Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial sports.
> I don't find anything professional about it.
>
> Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
>
> R
>
> Flame away…
>
Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news if his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his spots?
Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just about anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers World Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform us that hell has officially frozen over]).<P ID="signature">______________
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound as they go by." - Douglas Adams
dan</P>
K
KPLEXCOMPLEX
Guest
> > IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale. He’s
> > going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report
> on
> > them. Including me, I know of at least three people who
> are
> > not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder
> if
> > Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
> >
> > Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> > school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial
> sports.
> > I don't find anything professional about it.
> >
> > Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
> >
> > R
> >
> > Flame away…
> >
>
> Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
>
> You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for
> Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the
> roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's
> going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news if
> his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then
> people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his
> spots?
>
> Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But
> for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just about
> anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA
> championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers World
> Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform us
> that hell has officially frozen over]).
>
Absolutely! Jerry wants the publicity,good or bad,it's all good to him,because people will be talking about the Cowboys. They will not talk about the Rangers during their annual mid July Choke or the Stars because they are done by then or the Mavericks who will not start again until October. Dale maybe arrogant at times but Jerry far outweighs him on that. Dale was absolutely right . The Cowboys class has been eliminated,and the The Star on the helmet has been extinguished.
> > going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report
> on
> > them. Including me, I know of at least three people who
> are
> > not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder
> if
> > Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
> >
> > Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> > school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial
> sports.
> > I don't find anything professional about it.
> >
> > Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
> >
> > R
> >
> > Flame away…
> >
>
> Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
>
> You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for
> Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the
> roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's
> going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news if
> his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then
> people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his
> spots?
>
> Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But
> for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just about
> anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA
> championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers World
> Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform us
> that hell has officially frozen over]).
>
Absolutely! Jerry wants the publicity,good or bad,it's all good to him,because people will be talking about the Cowboys. They will not talk about the Rangers during their annual mid July Choke or the Stars because they are done by then or the Mavericks who will not start again until October. Dale maybe arrogant at times but Jerry far outweighs him on that. Dale was absolutely right . The Cowboys class has been eliminated,and the The Star on the helmet has been extinguished.
D
dean1
Guest
I said this on the air and I'll say it again here.
Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia, drug posession, or dealing.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas Henderson.
You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver & Blue. But prance on the 50?
"Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult" diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas, The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch when we let them buy our drinks.
Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have at least some of the names.
But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror. Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in theirs.
Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said himself.
As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt anyone would have suspected that statment when we were reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging on doors at 2am.
Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him - although I've found that life consistently sticks us with people we don't like, probably to teach us something about mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him before it happens to all these folks with stones in their hands.
Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell Owens.
Jody
> > IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale. He’s
> > going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report
> on
> > them. Including me, I know of at least three people who
> are
> > not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder
> if
> > Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
> >
> > Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> > school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial
> sports.
> > I don't find anything professional about it.
> >
> > Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
> >
> > R
> >
> > Flame away…
> >
>
> Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
>
> You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for
> Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the
> roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's
> going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news if
> his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then
> people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his
> spots?
>
> Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But
> for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just about
> anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA
> championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers World
> Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform us
> that hell has officially frozen over]).
>
Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia, drug posession, or dealing.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas Henderson.
You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver & Blue. But prance on the 50?
"Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult" diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas, The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch when we let them buy our drinks.
Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have at least some of the names.
But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror. Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in theirs.
Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said himself.
As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt anyone would have suspected that statment when we were reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging on doors at 2am.
Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him - although I've found that life consistently sticks us with people we don't like, probably to teach us something about mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him before it happens to all these folks with stones in their hands.
Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell Owens.
Jody
> > IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale. He’s
> > going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report
> on
> > them. Including me, I know of at least three people who
> are
> > not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I wonder
> if
> > Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
> >
> > Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> > school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial
> sports.
> > I don't find anything professional about it.
> >
> > Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
> >
> > R
> >
> > Flame away…
> >
>
> Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
>
> You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for
> Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the
> roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's
> going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news if
> his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then
> people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his
> spots?
>
> Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But
> for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just about
> anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA
> championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers World
> Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform us
> that hell has officially frozen over]).
>
Eh, screw standards. Ten years without a postseason victory is ten years too many. If T.O. can get us back to the Super Bowl, great.
K
KPLEXCOMPLEX
Guest
Good memory Jody. Efrem Herrera was another. Hollywood Henderson finally cleaned up his act and is giving back helping others to stay straight. I never was a Cowboy fan.Strictly "ABC" (Anybody But Cowboys) The only true honest Cowboy player was Emmett Smith who promised his mom he would finish college and get his degree,and he did,plus his unannounced Christmas Eve visits to families below the poverty line delivering toys, and money out of his own pocket.
T.O had the police visit him for hitting his then girlfriend. I wonder if Jerry is going to try and sign Maurice Clarrett former player with Ohio State and his police record. Dean,Dale also made a statement that Professional sports owners have and often will overlook players breaking laws,plus committing acts of violence off the field that would get you or I a long jail sentence. Perhaps someone should step up and say "enough" Will it happen? What are you crazy and miss the playoffs?
I said this on the air and I'll say it again here.
>
> Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been
> accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia,
> drug posession, or dealing.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne
> Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas
> Henderson.
>
> You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver &
> Blue. But prance on the 50?
>
> "Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
>
> If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance
> Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I
> need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at
> Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more
> than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The
> family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or
> Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult"
> diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV
> broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour
> upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In
> fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
>
> Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now
> about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas,
> The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has
> ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone
> here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field
> and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated
> Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those
> Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch
> when we let them buy our drinks.
>
> Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far
> as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
>
> As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his
> tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old
> 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like
> to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in
> nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going
> on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were
> there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then
> was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much
> on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the
> ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
>
> And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating
> crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far
> more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have
> at least some of the names.
>
> But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might
> change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before
> he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror.
> Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in
> theirs.
>
> Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at
> least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at
> Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday
> party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots
> stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their
> nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens
> sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said
> himself.
>
> As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of
> an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt
> anyone would have suspected that statment when we were
> reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland
> spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed
> when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging
> on doors at 2am.
>
> Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him -
> although I've found that life consistently sticks us with
> people we don't like, probably to teach us something about
> mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him
> before it happens to all these folks with stones in their
> hands.
>
> Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the
> story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least
> tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell
> Owens.
>
> Jody
>
> > > IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale.
> He’s
> > > going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report
>
> > on
> > > them. Including me, I know of at least three people who
>
> > are
> > > not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I
> wonder
> > if
> > > Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
> > >
> > > Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> > > school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial
> > sports.
> > > I don't find anything professional about it.
> > >
> > > Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Flame away…
> > >
> >
> > Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
> >
> > You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for
> > Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the
> > roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's
> > going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news
> if
> > his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then
> > people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his
> > spots?
> >
> > Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But
>
> > for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just
> about
> > anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA
> > championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers
> World
> > Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform
> us
> > that hell has officially frozen over]).
> >
>
T.O had the police visit him for hitting his then girlfriend. I wonder if Jerry is going to try and sign Maurice Clarrett former player with Ohio State and his police record. Dean,Dale also made a statement that Professional sports owners have and often will overlook players breaking laws,plus committing acts of violence off the field that would get you or I a long jail sentence. Perhaps someone should step up and say "enough" Will it happen? What are you crazy and miss the playoffs?
I said this on the air and I'll say it again here.
>
> Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been
> accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia,
> drug posession, or dealing.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne
> Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas
> Henderson.
>
> You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver &
> Blue. But prance on the 50?
>
> "Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
>
> If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance
> Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I
> need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at
> Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more
> than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The
> family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or
> Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult"
> diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV
> broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour
> upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In
> fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
>
> Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now
> about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas,
> The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has
> ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone
> here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field
> and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated
> Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those
> Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch
> when we let them buy our drinks.
>
> Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far
> as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
>
> As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his
> tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old
> 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like
> to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in
> nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going
> on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were
> there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then
> was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much
> on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the
> ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
>
> And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating
> crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far
> more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have
> at least some of the names.
>
> But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might
> change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before
> he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror.
> Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in
> theirs.
>
> Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at
> least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at
> Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday
> party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots
> stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their
> nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens
> sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said
> himself.
>
> As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of
> an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt
> anyone would have suspected that statment when we were
> reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland
> spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed
> when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging
> on doors at 2am.
>
> Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him -
> although I've found that life consistently sticks us with
> people we don't like, probably to teach us something about
> mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him
> before it happens to all these folks with stones in their
> hands.
>
> Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the
> story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least
> tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell
> Owens.
>
> Jody
>
> > > IMHO I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Dale.
> He’s
> > > going to have to watch the Cowboy games so he can report
>
> > on
> > > them. Including me, I know of at least three people who
>
> > are
> > > not going to watch specifically because of T.O. I
> wonder
> > if
> > > Dale is caught between a rock and a hard place on this.
> > >
> > > Thank goodness I’ll still get my football fix with high
> > > school football. I’m not a big fan of controversial
> > sports.
> > > I don't find anything professional about it.
> > >
> > > Take your money and shove it, Jerry!
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > Flame away…
> > >
> >
> > Trying to keep this topic on the tracks...
> >
> > You gotta admit, love him or hate him, the ratings for
> > Cowboys games on TV this year are going to go through the
> > roof. People can't wait to see what childish antic he's
> > going to pull next. Of course, it'll be even bigger news
> if
> > his newfound halo stays attached all season long. Then
> > people will be asking, has the leopard really changed his
> > spots?
> >
> > Then he'll implode in the second year of his contract. But
>
> > for the next 24 months he'll be bigger news than just
> about
> > anything else in the area (save for a Mavericks NBA
> > championship, a second Stars Stanley Cup, or a Rangers
> World
> > Series [at which time Harold Taft will reappear to inform
> us
> > that hell has officially frozen over]).
> >
>
J
JBB
Guest
> They will not talk about the Rangers during their
> annual mid July Choke
You've obviously forgotten about the Hardline. They can find a way to discuss who is going to play backup catcher for the Rangers while broadcasting their show from the Super Bowl host city the week before game.
> annual mid July Choke
You've obviously forgotten about the Hardline. They can find a way to discuss who is going to play backup catcher for the Rangers while broadcasting their show from the Super Bowl host city the week before game.
> I said this on the air and I'll say it again here.
>
> Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been
> accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia,
> drug posession, or dealing.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne
> Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas
> Henderson.
>
> You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver &
> Blue. But prance on the 50?
>
> "Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
>
> If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance
> Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I
> need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at
> Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more
> than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The
> family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or
> Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult"
> diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV
> broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour
> upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In
> fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
>
> Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now
> about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas,
> The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has
> ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone
> here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field
> and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated
> Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those
> Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch
> when we let them buy our drinks.
>
> Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far
> as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
>
> As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his
> tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old
> 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like
> to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in
> nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going
> on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were
> there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then
> was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much
> on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the
> ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
>
> And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating
> crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far
> more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have
> at least some of the names.
>
> But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might
> change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before
> he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror.
> Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in
> theirs.
>
> Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at
> least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at
> Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday
> party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots
> stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their
> nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens
> sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said
> himself.
>
> As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of
> an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt
> anyone would have suspected that statment when we were
> reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland
> spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed
> when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging
> on doors at 2am.
>
> Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him -
> although I've found that life consistently sticks us with
> people we don't like, probably to teach us something about
> mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him
> before it happens to all these folks with stones in their
> hands.
>
> Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the
> story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least
> tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell
> Owens.
>
> Jody
>
You make some very good points, many of which I failed to consider (not being privy to that sort of info). However, I have to say that, although Owens is considered one of (if not the) top receivers in the league, he is a PR nightmare waiting to happen...as well as, whether he realizes it or not, a role model for a bunch of impressionable young kids who grow up wanting to be pro football players. Both he and his ego-feeding, fawning agent, Drew Rosenhaus, should start realizing that.
Granted, TO is not Quincy Carter, or Leon Lett, or any of the other names you mentioned, at least so far as we know. For that, at least, we can be grateful. However, he represents the worst of sports -- the athlete who is good, who knows he's good, who uses that talent not to inspire others, but who makes a spectacle of himself and chases after (my opinion) more than his fair share of the almighty dollar. Okay, maybe we expect too much of professional athletes. After all, they're trying to make a living like the rest of us. But, for weal or woe, they're on a pedestal that we, the fans, have built for them, and I think they should be held to somewhat higher standards than the rest of society.
And, this is going to sound like stream of consciousness rambling, but if we're going to do that to so-called "superstars" of sports and entertainment, why can't the rest of us aspire to the same standards? Why do we accept certain behavior from most people, but if they put on a sports uniform or pick up a microphone or a musical instrument they're automatically supposed to be better than the rest of us? Why do we react with a certain laissez-faire attitude when our favorite pop tart gets pregnant out of wedlock, but we react with horror when the next-door neighbor's 16-year-old daughter has the same thing happen to her? And we think it's OK for stars to do that, but we think the neighborhood kids who do the same thing are going to hell as a result?
Maybe we don't need TO to clean up his act...maybe we need to clean ours up first. And maybe I sound like I'm agreeing with you, Jody, which I probably am. But, in an attempt to get this thread back on track, I still think ratings for Cowboys games on TV will go through the roof every time he plays, because fans want to see if he's going to do to Bledsoe the same thing he did to McNabb, or whether he alienates the rest of his teammates (which the media will do its best to try and incite, regardless of what the true feelings are inside Valley Ranch -- no offense, Jody, but been there, done that).<P ID="signature">______________
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound as they go by." - Douglas Adams
dan</P>
>
> Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been
> accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia,
> drug posession, or dealing.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne
> Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas
> Henderson.
>
> You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver &
> Blue. But prance on the 50?
>
> "Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
>
> If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance
> Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I
> need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at
> Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more
> than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The
> family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or
> Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult"
> diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV
> broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour
> upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In
> fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
>
> Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now
> about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas,
> The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has
> ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone
> here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field
> and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated
> Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those
> Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch
> when we let them buy our drinks.
>
> Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far
> as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
>
> As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his
> tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old
> 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like
> to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in
> nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going
> on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were
> there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then
> was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much
> on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the
> ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
>
> And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating
> crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far
> more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have
> at least some of the names.
>
> But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might
> change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before
> he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror.
> Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in
> theirs.
>
> Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at
> least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at
> Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday
> party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots
> stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their
> nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens
> sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said
> himself.
>
> As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of
> an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt
> anyone would have suspected that statment when we were
> reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland
> spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed
> when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging
> on doors at 2am.
>
> Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him -
> although I've found that life consistently sticks us with
> people we don't like, probably to teach us something about
> mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him
> before it happens to all these folks with stones in their
> hands.
>
> Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the
> story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least
> tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell
> Owens.
>
> Jody
>
You make some very good points, many of which I failed to consider (not being privy to that sort of info). However, I have to say that, although Owens is considered one of (if not the) top receivers in the league, he is a PR nightmare waiting to happen...as well as, whether he realizes it or not, a role model for a bunch of impressionable young kids who grow up wanting to be pro football players. Both he and his ego-feeding, fawning agent, Drew Rosenhaus, should start realizing that.
Granted, TO is not Quincy Carter, or Leon Lett, or any of the other names you mentioned, at least so far as we know. For that, at least, we can be grateful. However, he represents the worst of sports -- the athlete who is good, who knows he's good, who uses that talent not to inspire others, but who makes a spectacle of himself and chases after (my opinion) more than his fair share of the almighty dollar. Okay, maybe we expect too much of professional athletes. After all, they're trying to make a living like the rest of us. But, for weal or woe, they're on a pedestal that we, the fans, have built for them, and I think they should be held to somewhat higher standards than the rest of society.
And, this is going to sound like stream of consciousness rambling, but if we're going to do that to so-called "superstars" of sports and entertainment, why can't the rest of us aspire to the same standards? Why do we accept certain behavior from most people, but if they put on a sports uniform or pick up a microphone or a musical instrument they're automatically supposed to be better than the rest of us? Why do we react with a certain laissez-faire attitude when our favorite pop tart gets pregnant out of wedlock, but we react with horror when the next-door neighbor's 16-year-old daughter has the same thing happen to her? And we think it's OK for stars to do that, but we think the neighborhood kids who do the same thing are going to hell as a result?
Maybe we don't need TO to clean up his act...maybe we need to clean ours up first. And maybe I sound like I'm agreeing with you, Jody, which I probably am. But, in an attempt to get this thread back on track, I still think ratings for Cowboys games on TV will go through the roof every time he plays, because fans want to see if he's going to do to Bledsoe the same thing he did to McNabb, or whether he alienates the rest of his teammates (which the media will do its best to try and incite, regardless of what the true feelings are inside Valley Ranch -- no offense, Jody, but been there, done that).<P ID="signature">______________
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound as they go by." - Douglas Adams
dan</P>
Re: oh, brother...
> I have often joined with the crowd who feels that WfAA is
> Hanson's rant on T.O. and J.J. was
> outstanding.
Dale is a funny guy, and he makes the Dallas market better.
But this latest rant has very little to do with Dale's real feelings about T.O., and has everything to do with his self-interests. He's setting the stage for a move from The Ticket to ESPN 103.3.
And when the move is announced, he'll say his opinions made The Ticket and the Cowboys uncomfortable.
Smoke screen... ahem... removed.
> I have often joined with the crowd who feels that WfAA is
> Hanson's rant on T.O. and J.J. was
> outstanding.
Dale is a funny guy, and he makes the Dallas market better.
But this latest rant has very little to do with Dale's real feelings about T.O., and has everything to do with his self-interests. He's setting the stage for a move from The Ticket to ESPN 103.3.
And when the move is announced, he'll say his opinions made The Ticket and the Cowboys uncomfortable.
Smoke screen... ahem... removed.
A
AliceTheCook
Guest
Re: Dale Hansen, KESN, etc
I'm just glad to hear that they're finally talking about sports again over there at The Ticket.
Speaking of KESN, are they ever going to be a contender here? They're the equivalent of the "Twister" of country music, the "Bone" of classic rock, the "KSKY" of conservative talk, and the Dave Schum of radio station owners. Galloway's big move from WBAP to KESN has been, what, nearly 3 years ago? They just can't seem to get any buzz going around or about that place. They've never been a threat to The Ticket. Why? Because guys get into all that non-sports talk on The Ticket? KESN has too much non-regional, network programming? Or is it the signal?
That was a sh!tload of money ABC wasted to move 15 or so outlying stations around just to beam KESN into Dallas, and have gotten absolutely nothing back on their investment. And I'm hearing that there will be an even GREATER loss of localism there after the Citadel deal is complete, that ABC wants to streamline and consolidate its remaining ESPN stations into regional "zones" that will have nearly 100% network programming with local cut-ins provided by a small staff of reporters from the home office in Connecticut.
National network rebroadcasts have never made it here. How many times did various stations try simulcasting CNN News? When it comes to sports, this is indeed a sports town, and listeners here probably don't want to hear someone singing the praises of the Vikings or Eagles or Cubs equally amidst their Cowboys and others. At least in this case, Sports Talk is one of the few formats that really can't succeed without blatent localism.
> You've obviously forgotten about the Hardline. They can
> find a way to discuss who is going to play backup catcher
> for the Rangers while broadcasting their show from the Super
> Bowl host city the week before game.
>
I'm just glad to hear that they're finally talking about sports again over there at The Ticket.
Speaking of KESN, are they ever going to be a contender here? They're the equivalent of the "Twister" of country music, the "Bone" of classic rock, the "KSKY" of conservative talk, and the Dave Schum of radio station owners. Galloway's big move from WBAP to KESN has been, what, nearly 3 years ago? They just can't seem to get any buzz going around or about that place. They've never been a threat to The Ticket. Why? Because guys get into all that non-sports talk on The Ticket? KESN has too much non-regional, network programming? Or is it the signal?
That was a sh!tload of money ABC wasted to move 15 or so outlying stations around just to beam KESN into Dallas, and have gotten absolutely nothing back on their investment. And I'm hearing that there will be an even GREATER loss of localism there after the Citadel deal is complete, that ABC wants to streamline and consolidate its remaining ESPN stations into regional "zones" that will have nearly 100% network programming with local cut-ins provided by a small staff of reporters from the home office in Connecticut.
National network rebroadcasts have never made it here. How many times did various stations try simulcasting CNN News? When it comes to sports, this is indeed a sports town, and listeners here probably don't want to hear someone singing the praises of the Vikings or Eagles or Cubs equally amidst their Cowboys and others. At least in this case, Sports Talk is one of the few formats that really can't succeed without blatent localism.
> You've obviously forgotten about the Hardline. They can
> find a way to discuss who is going to play backup catcher
> for the Rangers while broadcasting their show from the Super
> Bowl host city the week before game.
>
B
brotherjohn
Guest
> I said this on the air and I'll say it again here.
>
> Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been
> accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia,
> drug posession, or dealing.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne
> Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas
> Henderson.
>
> You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver &
> Blue. But prance on the 50?
>
> "Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
>
> If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance
> Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I
> need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at
> Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more
> than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The
> family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or
> Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult"
> diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV
> broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour
> upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In
> fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
>
> Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now
> about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas,
> The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has
> ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone
> here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field
> and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated
> Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those
> Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch
> when we let them buy our drinks.
>
> Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far
> as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
>
> As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his
> tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old
> 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like
> to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in
> nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going
> on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were
> there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then
> was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much
> on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the
> ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
>
> And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating
> crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far
> more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have
> at least some of the names.
>
> But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might
> change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before
> he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror.
> Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in
> theirs.
>
> Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at
> least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at
> Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday
> party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots
> stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their
> nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens
> sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said
> himself.
>
> As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of
> an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt
> anyone would have suspected that statment when we were
> reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland
> spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed
> when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging
> on doors at 2am.
>
> Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him -
> although I've found that life consistently sticks us with
> people we don't like, probably to teach us something about
> mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him
> before it happens to all these folks with stones in their
> hands.
>
> Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the
> story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least
> tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell
> Owens.
>
> Jody
>
I have to agree with you on this one. The passage of time forgives a lot of sins. We get nostalgic and gloss over the dirty deeds of the sports icons of yesteryear. Heck look at Pat Summerall and Mickey Mantle. They've been all but sainted after they each drank their livers into submission.
It always has and always will come down to what happens on the field. Fans want winners. Bring home championships and they'll forgive any attitude problems or off the field imbroglios.<P ID="signature">______________
i'm on a mexican radio</P>
>
> Owens might be a rat, but as far as I know he's never been
> accused or convicted of rape, battery, murder, pedophilia,
> drug posession, or dealing.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Williams, Dwayne
> Goodrich, Harvey Martin, Rafael Septien, and Thomas
> Henderson.
>
> You can break the law and we'll still root for the Silver &
> Blue. But prance on the 50?
>
> "Cowboys Stomp" indeed.
>
> If you wanna keep going, may I also introduce you to Lance
> Rentzel, John Niland, Duane Thomas, and Charles Haley. Do I
> need to mention also Meredith and Gent? Or the parties at
> Too Tall's house? Or certain local hangers-on who were more
> than glad to party with them...including yours truly. The
> family men who couldn't wait till Thousand Oaks and LA, or
> Austin, home of the Copper Tank and assorted "adult"
> diversions. I watched one of this area's most revered TV
> broadcasters stumble drunkenly from a strip club after hour
> upon hours with other "role models" and Sunday heroes. In
> fact, we stood at the valet stand together.
>
> Of course, many of those I hear howling the loudest now
> about TO were also there. Wellington's, Elan, Cafe Dallas,
> The White House, Cabaret Royale. I doubt Ron Springs has
> ever forgotten his episode at Million Dollar Saloon. Anyone
> here remember the jokes about the white lines on the field
> and the Manilla Folders? I do. Dear heavens, we tolerated
> Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders. But we forget those
> Thursdays at 8.0 and Gene Lockhart's place in Valley Ranch
> when we let them buy our drinks.
>
> Where were the mass-burnings of Cowboys apparel then? As far
> as I can tell, the stadium is still full.
>
> As much as I love Dale and respect his opinion, his
> tears-from-heaven line was pure pandering. The good old
> 'Boys of the good old days weren't nearly as good as we like
> to think, and by claiming such we flatter ourselves. And in
> nearly every case, Clint, Tex and Tom knew what was going
> on. Later, so did Jerry and Jimmy. Sometimes, they were
> there. So were members of the saintly press. The point then
> was the point now. Winning football games. Tex said as much
> on his old radio show - while we giggled at the sound of the
> ice clinking in his glass of Crown.
>
> And people are mad because Terrell Owen is a showboating
> crybaby who dared to dance on a painted star? Please. Far
> more uncomfortable things have happened on that star. I have
> at least some of the names.
>
> But here's the good news - it's possible that Owens might
> change. Maybe he already has. More may need to happen before
> he gets to where he can't stand what he sees in the mirror.
> Some of critics need to take a good look at what they see in
> theirs.
>
> Many of the people mentioned above did change, and it was at
> least as improbable as Owens entering a monastary. I was at
> Coach Landry's last public appearance. His 75th birthday
> party at the Fairmount. And many of those former idiots
> stood to thank Coach Landry for putting up with their
> nonsense. They'd learned. They grew up. It happens
> sometimes. Shoot, it even happened with Dale -as he has said
> himself.
>
> As Smokey John said at Harvey's funeral, Martin was more of
> an MVP at the end than he ever was in his career. I doubt
> anyone would have suspected that statment when we were
> reporting domestic problems at Martin's condo. John Niland
> spoke of unmerited redemption. No one one would have guessed
> when Niland was running naked through Highland Park, banging
> on doors at 2am.
>
> Will TO grow up? Maybe. Personally, I don't like him -
> although I've found that life consistently sticks us with
> people we don't like, probably to teach us something about
> mercy. But if he does grow up, I suspect it'll happen to him
> before it happens to all these folks with stones in their
> hands.
>
> Please shove the sanctimony. Any of us who has enjoyed the
> story of Max McGee's hungover Super Bowl has at least
> tacitly watered the seeds that produced the bloom of Terrell
> Owens.
>
> Jody
>
I have to agree with you on this one. The passage of time forgives a lot of sins. We get nostalgic and gloss over the dirty deeds of the sports icons of yesteryear. Heck look at Pat Summerall and Mickey Mantle. They've been all but sainted after they each drank their livers into submission.
It always has and always will come down to what happens on the field. Fans want winners. Bring home championships and they'll forgive any attitude problems or off the field imbroglios.<P ID="signature">______________
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