Dallas - Ft.Worth Needs a Mainstream Hard Rock Station

[TheRover]

Dallas - Ft.Worth Needs a Mainstream Hard Rock Station

I'm talking about a station dedicated Hard Rock of all eras, but without the candy-@$$ shlock of bands like Quiet Riot, Billy Squire, and Def Leppard.
Without the extreme "growling" of bands like Pantera.
No "Dance The Night Away" by Van Halen, but instead, "The Full Bug" and "Take Your Whiskey Home" . . . .
And not a home for endless speed-metal junkies.....

Just straight ahead Hard Rock and Roll.

The kind of station that would happily play "He's A Whore" AND "Mandocello"
by Cheap Trick.... but would NOT play "I Want You To Want Me"......

White Zombie, Grand Funk Railroad, Dream Theater, Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson

This is a Quality of Life Issue.

Dallas - Ft. Worth needs a Mainstream Hard Rock Station ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

The best thing for you to do is put all them songs o na cd or ipod," because it ain't agonna happen".

 

[little1]

White Zombie, Grand Funk Railroad, Dream Theater, Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson

The problem is that for the most part, people who like older rock (Cooper and GFR) don't like Manson and White Zombie. And the peeps that like newer hard rock (like MM and WZ) hate the prog-rock schitte like Dream Theater...

Sure there are some peeps with open enough minds to listen to all of that stuff, but research shows that most people's tastes aren't that wide-

There's a reason why the Bone and ZPS haven't broadened their playlists, there's a reason why the Edge and Z-Rock didn;t stray to far from their core artists, etc...

And there's a reason why Q102 died. Because in this day and age you can't be too many things to too many people. That's why it's going to be interesting to see what 92.5 does now-

I think they're betting that there's enough people that like both the rock and country that they'll play to make the change worthwhile...And there's a fair amount of sharing between the country stations and the rock stations in this town that it just MIGHT work...

 

[TheRover]

^^^^^

Well, I like old and new "Hard Rock".....

I like the "Hard Rock" of Dream Theater..... their "Prog" is not what I meant.....

Cooper.... not looking for the casual fan, but the ones who love "Killer".

Not playing "I'm Your Captain", or expecting the younger peeps to like it.
But songs like "Black Licorice", "Are You Ready", and "Inside Looking Out".

Not trying to be something to everyone.....

Drawing a line in the cement, and leaving the pop-rock (Boston, Dire Straits, etc) behind ! !

No Aerosmith post 1977, and selective before that.

No TOP 40 A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G ! !

This station is for "Music" Lovers..... Not "Beer" Lovers, or "Contest" Lovers,
or wise-@$$ DJ lovers, or 10th Grade Joke Lovers.....

Keep your current demographics, and the "quality" listeners that you have KZPS and 93.3 ! ! ! Don't need 'em ! Or want 'em!!

This is for people who like to "Rock Out" without the "TOP 40" mantra ! ! !

Yes, we're out here.... and we already know what we want! And what is played on 92.5, 93.3, 102.1, and 102.9 --- is N-O-T IT ! !

 

[Robert Bass]

No Aerosmith post 1977, and selective before that.

No TOP 40 A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G ! !

What a contradiction, considering Aerosmith was Top 40.

R

 

[guy_gadbois]

I am still holding out for a true alternative/indie station...........but I am not holding my breath.

 

[Paul Boomer]

I am still holding out for a true alternative/indie station...........but I am not holding my breath.

Agreed! The only way I hear about great new bands is from my friends kids. It would be nice if I could hear music that college and high school students like to listen to.

 

[TheRover]

I am still holding out for a true alternative/indie station...........but I am not holding my breath.

Agreed! The only way I hear about great new bands is from my friends kids. It would be nice if I could hear music that college and high school students like to listen to.

Well, you'll have to clear that through Madonna & Sting, and their Corporate Masters....

The Status Quo.... is... the Status Quo.

Imagine, in this world of Corporate Domination..... just a few stationswhere people with musical integrity, just like you and me..... are slecting songs to turn others onto, that don't match the Corporate Must-Play Playlists ! ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[TheRover]

No Aerosmith post 1977, and selective before that.

No TOP 40 A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G ! !

What a contradiction, considering Aerosmith was Top 40.

R

Robert, I know Aeosmith was mostly Top 40... but, like many bands, they did put out some good Hard Rock songs, that were not "hits".... and those are the kind of Hord Rock songs that don't get played on "Classic Rock" formats . . .

Van Haln had their share of commerical pop and rock......
And, Van Halen also had many great Hard Rock songs.....
"Classic Rock" formats fcous on the commerical and pop-rock "hits".....
Hard Rock music lovers pass on those, and happily listen to a long list of Rockers that do not fall into that category.....

In most cases, the gross labeling of bands doesn't work here...... Labeling individual songs, does ! !

Very little of what is played on 92.5 and 93.3 would make it on to an FM Hard Rock station for Music Lovers...

 

[johnsummers]

With all due respect to THeRover, what you describe is anything but 'mainstream'. You're asking for a major market commercial radio station that plays music for you, and you alone. Unfortunately, what you consider to be 'cool songs' may not be cool to enough other people to make it commercially viable. And that, my friend, is the bottom line.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Unfortunately I agree with John,however the very short playlist KLUV has needs to open up quite a bit. When I tune in to stations I am still hearing Steam's "Kiss him Goodbye" ,and the "Guess Who's
These eyes" at almost the same time every single day. If you want to hear "white room" By Cream and "All along the watchtower" By Hendrix on the Bone,just wait a minute.

 

[Robert Bass]

Unfortunately I agree with John,however the very short playlist KLUV has needs to open up quite a bit. When I tune in to stations I am still hearing Steam's "Kiss him Goodbye"

Ick!

R

 

[Travis1960]

Dallas does need a good AOR station. I sure miss KZEW.

 

[VERITAS DE VOCE]

No Aerosmith post 1977, and selective before that.

No TOP 40 A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G ! !

What a contradiction, considering Aerosmith was Top 40.

R

Spoken like a TRUE 70s aficiando. Here, Here.

Too bad, those other mainstream beatnik groups like Van Halen, KISS and others were in that forbidden "Top 40" echelon. Ahhh... remember that days of "TEXXAS JAM"? Those were the days. Getting ripped off of er... second hand smoke... and playing air guitar until your wrists hurt.

 

[TheRob]

I couldn't help but notice this thread while looking for information on the KZPS format flip.

The further away we get from the 1970s, the less likely you will hear album rock from that era on classic/album rock stations. I checked the last 90 minutes of KCFX here in Kansas City. They played ten songs from the 1980s, six from the 1970s and one from the 1960s. There is a reason I always hear "Twilight Zone" or "Here I Go Again" on any of the three rock stations in KC; the people who were teenagers at that time are 40 today.

 

[TheRover]

With all due respect to THeRover, what you describe is anything but 'mainstream'. You're asking for a major market commercial radio station that plays music for you, and you alone. Unfortunately, what you consider to be 'cool songs' may not be cool to enough other people to make it commercially viable. And that, my friend, is the bottom line.

Look John, I really do know what "Rocks", and I'm really not "alone" in loving music that rocks. Just because the masses are full of shallow listeners does not change my taste in music ! ! I know my generation, and we like music that makes a social statement. And we like the music to be good, and not whiny.

My teenage years (1968-1975) beats your teenage years for great rock music that R-O-C-K-S ! Young kinds today would rock out as well. There is so much more to rock to, that is as good as and better than the massed playlists of Classic Rock stations.

 

[Robert Bass]

With all due respect to THeRover, what you describe is anything but 'mainstream'. You're asking for a major market commercial radio station that plays music for you, and you alone. Unfortunately, what you consider to be 'cool songs' may not be cool to enough other people to make it commercially viable. And that, my friend, is the bottom line.

Look John, I really do know what "Rocks", and I'm really not "alone" in loving music that rocks. Just because the masses are full of shallow listeners does not change my taste in music ! ! I know my generation, and we like music that makes a social statement. And we like the music to be good, and not whiny.

My teenage years (1968-1975) beats your teenage years for great rock music that R-O-C-K-S ! Young kinds today would rock out as well. There is so much more to rock to, that is as good as and better than the massed playlists of Classic Rock stations.

John is (at least I think) trying to tell you the same thing I did awhile back. You're using an opinion for what types of music "rocks", as a fact. You like the rock from the Mid 60's to the Mid 70's, and that's great. But claiming that period of time produced more great rock music than any other "is an opinion". What you define as "cool" music, others will say it sucks. C'est la vie.

R

 

[melonhead]

Robert Bass....Amen brotha! You da man.

And lets not forget that the 40 year old (mentioned above) graduated in 1984. Great Music to them IS 80's.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

The rock music of the 60's and 70's had a lot more to do with events on a social scale compared to the 80's when it was about relationships. The 90's was a hybrid of things,but the true test is what songs hold up? If a song holds up after 5 years ,and not based on personal taste,its a classic. Sales dictate that alot . So find out what holds up,and is still being downloaded or sold from the 60'-s to 1999, and go for specific songs. It should be fun research. BTW Stones, Beatles, Doors,Led Zepplin, and Elvis are already winners in the hold up category.

 

[little1]

Granted, but have you looked at what KLUV plays now versus what they played 10-15 years ago. Pretty much any trace of 50's is gone. The 60's seem like a memory except for, yeah, those songs that hold up well like the Beatles, Stones, etc...

I think the point R-Bass is trying to make is that why there may be a core set of songs that 'everybody' loves, there's a huge difference of opinion on what is good, what you'll listen too AFTER that playlist is exhausted, once you've agreed on the Beatles, STones, Hendrix, Doors, etc...

Rover seems to be saying that 68-75 is the best. But being a generation or so behind him, I'd argue that the dinosaur rock bands of that era (The Black Sabbaths, Jethro Tulls etc) are old and tired, and that, for example, the "punk rock" era is much more interesting musically. The Clash, the Ramones, Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, etc ( in other words the early KDGE stuff) is better than a whole ton of stuff released 68-75.

Hey, if someone thinks a song that rocks features a dude standing on one leg playing a flute, more power to him. But hey, specifcally gabba gabba hey, I know what REALLY rocks.

And that's the great thing. Neithe rone of us is right. Neither one of us is wrong. As Mr Bass pointed out, it's all about opinion. And it's one thing to express your opinion and say I think 'my' era is better than 'your' era.

But to present it as fact? Gee, much of an ego there? Could that be any more arrogant?

And as for tracking sales, if IIRC, aren't the 3 biggest selling albums of all time Thriller, Rumors and Dark Side of the Moon? None of those are exactly 'rockers" are they?