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Dance-friendly Rhythmic CHR from the 90's

Its funny you mention Spanish Fly, and Yaki Da I saw you dancing... WMGI Terre Haute 100.7 Mix FM played both Crimson Clover and I saw you dancing in regular rotation,,, I wasnt a huge fan of Spanish Fly, but it was OKAY, However I loved the Yaki Da-I saw You dancing,, But I honestly dont consider either song to be dance.... I do wish WMGI was still a Dance-Rhythmic CHR,,, I used to complain back then that they played too many ballads and Urban, but flash forward 12 yrs I think I was being selfish,, cause Now they went from being like 70 percent pure dance, to O percent..... dance within just a few years.
 
Ah... KKFR Glendale/Phoenix, The Valley's Power 92! dang do I miss that station before it became Where Hip Hop Lives. from 95-97 it was the best station I have EVER listened to. I grew up with it during it's alternative leaning days as well. I know they did play Crimson & Clover by Spanish Fly. I heard it many times on there. I always curse the day Steve Smith changed that station. Now it is just as boring as any other hip hop station. I don't really know if hip hop, dance and r&b can exist together like it did back then on radio and be successful in the U.S. but man KKFR sounded great with the variety of music it played from those genres. I have some airchecks from 96-97 on audio cassette. just need to get them into mp3 format now... Heck i ever have an aircheck of them playing a Spice Girls song (talk about the irony. LOL...)
 
KDM 7000 said:
Was "a little bit of ecstasy" ever played on Power at any point?

Yes, but I think only on mix shows.

I remember "do you miss me" being played once during the Power Party, but I never really learned about Jocelyn until I went to California and discovered what she was really all about. They only played the first two verses of "do you miss me" during the Power Party mix then cut to commercials.

Power aired the syndicated "Hot Mix" programs on Saturday nights during the mid-90's. That's probably where you heard it (and I think they called it the "Saturday Night Power Party" at one point, and "Saturday Night Hot Mix" at another.)

If 103.9 were still around today, I wonder if they'd still be dance friendly, or would they sound like 101.5 JamZ?

You may recall that, after the failed "Party Radio @ 103.9" modern rock/hip-hop-on-the-same-station experiment (which lasted from June '98 through Dec '99), the station was relaunched (inexplicably keeping the "Party Radio @ 103.9" name) with an all boy-band/girl-band format on 1/1/00. That evolved to a more traditional Rhythmic CHR approach (and the name "103-9 the Party"). Just last night, I was listening to a tape of the last 30 minutes or so of "103-9 the Party" from 10/31/01, and it sounded very much like the 2001 version of the Power 92 aircheck from 1995...a mix of dance/R&B/hip-hop. But...the station became the new home of (Modern Rock) KEDJ "The Edge" right in the middle of their old school lunch mix that day.
 
That first change they did I hated with a passion! I remember how during the transition they just played random pop songs...which turned out to be beneficial to me because I discovered one of my favorite songs "this is how we party" by S.O.A.P. during the transition and once I found the single I played the hell out of that song. After the "We like to party" weekend of change (which I was excited about because it was a sign of things to come) I noticed how they came back as mostly pop and slowly transitioned to 103.9 The Party "It's YOUR music. The second time they changed and the way The Edge took over the studio was horrible. I don't know how it sounded on the radio because I left for Atlanta in late Nov. 2001 and came back in mid December to find out the bad news. I heard through a past friend I dj'ed with how it all went down behind the scenes. Ever since I had to depend on Kiss to deliver most of the goods.

Kiss and Power always seemed to change their noon mixshows around the same time.... but I wont get into that. I also remember the 2 hour drive at 5 that somehow both KKFR and KPTY just happened to do coincidentally.... but I wont get into that either.. but it seems as if someone has the tendency to always coincidentally end up with the same ideas as another.

Well I miss those days of 103.9 - I remember way back when the aliens took over the station and they were brewing in from the desert and it was all mixes only, then they stopped the mixes one day to play regular songs. I left for Atlanta in late summer 2006 to return June 2007 and see what 103.9 had turned out to be in the "end". After my friend and I were done tripping out over how we had stations in Phoenix playing hip hop, I came to notice that 103.9 wasn't all hip hop and that they had very decent mixshows. Power played "da hop" by Kinsu first, but 103.9 perfected playing it when they finally picked it up AND added it to their regular playlist after a while. 103.9 was also the only one I knew to play the remix of "that's right" by Dj Taz. When I first came back to Phoenix in June 1997, the only dance song 103.9 had in rotation was "can't get you out of my mind", which I don't know how that happened. It was the only one outside of mixshows. Later on they added more such as "get into the rhythm" by Jocelyn....etc. Kim Del Fierro was pretty hot as well, but by the time they added that the Lil Suzy song mysteriously vanished from their playlist.

Hopefully at some point, 101.5 JamZ or Power 98.3 will come to sound like what 103.9 used to be. I listen to MOViN sometimes and think about how much better they COULD be, but they choose not to... Kiss FM? well, I appreciate them for being a top 40 station, even though they lean heavily rhythmic. We do need a top 40 station. As of today, they are playing a decent amount of alternative (once again) but as history proves, this will only last for a phase of time before they once again diminish quite a bit of their alternative, so I know better than to think that just because today things are different that doesn't mean that this is going to be how it is for now on. Last week it wasn't the same.... What would be great is if we had the Throwback Station like in California - 93.9 The Mix. I would prefer that over MOViN, although I believe MOViN does have some potential if different people were there. I used to complain about how much better things could be back in they day and was very picky about how things were done and what was played and how much. I once called 103.9 when I caught them recycling a mix they had played a week or two before and asked them "Is in a dream by Jossette going to be coming up at the end of this mix?" I must have scared them because the people on the phone seemed speechless and I heard them communicating quietly to each other, then they came back and said "ah - no". Shortly after, I heard where they tried to transition from prerecorded to live so the last few songs in the end were different. I knew what happened because as they transitioned by playing and mixing over the exact same song as the recording to go live, it was slightly off beat....very slight, but noticeable to me. If I didn't say anything, that would've been the third time they played that mix. Now I look back and see that I had so much to be thankful for, and ever since, I agreed with the saying that "You don't know how much you have until it is taken away". Thanks to 103.9. Thanks to stations like Power who volunteered to carry shows like the Power Workout at noon and things like that, I still got to learn about songs like "doctor doctor" (party mix) by Gemini and the remix of "relations" by Erika and other exclusive stuff like that. Now it's pretty easy to find that stuff on my own. I always noticed that no matter how many specialty dance shows there were, for some reason they were always very limited. There was always more stuff being played elsewhere in other cities/states that seemed to be appropriate.
 
You guys want a dance CHR that does a great job mixin' in Hip-Hop/R&B today? Listen to 94.5 The Vibe Moapa/Las Vegas. Great stream, great mix of music. Mainly dance, but it sounds much like the early and mid 90s RHY/CHRs that played a lot of dance.

Midwest,
I too was selfish is those MIX-FM days. I'd actually get ticked if a song came on that wasn't dance or back to back dance songs. Didn't happen very often but now, yawn!! We were spoiled then!
 
Scott Zorn said:
You guys want a dance CHR that does a great job mixin' in Hip-Hop/R&B today? Listen to 94.5 The Vibe Moapa/Las Vegas. Great stream, great mix of music. Mainly dance, but it sounds much like the early and mid 90s RHY/CHRs that played a lot of dance.

What's the stream address? The one posted on the other Dance board doesn't work, and neither does the one linked from www.vibevegas.com (I think they are pointing to the same location).
 
Stream's working now. 10am CST. I don't know how to link it for you. Sounding better than ever -- just heard MR. VAIN -- yesterday they threw in a remixed Information Society -- What's On Your Mind. One Step At A Time by some R&B artist is on now -- Just enough R&B between the dance to give your ears a rhythmic break and then back to the beat! Good stuff!
 
The problem as Clubber and others have already pointed out is that Vibe's signal sucks as hard as the former Energy radio in Phoenix.
You're better off moving to St. George, Utah is you want to pick up a clear signal of Vibe, LOL.
 
djwoody21 said:
Ah... KKFR Glendale/Phoenix, The Valley's Power 92! dang do I miss that station before it became Where Hip Hop Lives. from 95-97 it was the best station I have EVER listened to. I grew up with it during it's alternative leaning days as well. I know they did play Crimson & Clover by Spanish Fly. I heard it many times on there. I always curse the day Steve Smith changed that station. Now it is just as boring as any other hip hop station. I don't really know if hip hop, dance and r&b can exist together like it did back then on radio and be successful in the U.S. but man KKFR sounded great with the variety of music it played from those genres. I have some airchecks from 96-97 on audio cassette. just need to get them into mp3 format now... Heck i ever have an aircheck of them playing a Spice Girls song (talk about the irony. LOL...)

Power 106 was a pretty interesting hip hop station. They seem to have some interesting things going on at times... And if you like booty bass, then I guess Atlanta had some interesting stations back in the late 90's before booty bass died. Now Atlanta has more stations, but none of them are interesting (from a dance music point of view) anymore. Actually, they are very strange when it comes to music selection. There are things you will not here there that chart in every other state and I've never figured it out. How they could be next to Miami and still have stations the way they are? I have no idea.... If Atlanta got a new dance station before Phoenix, I'd be so happy for them that I wouldn't really care about not having one here anymore. Maybe they'll be the first ones to play Danity Kane in Atlanta! Better late than never..... maybe someday. If they finally picked up Planet Soul and that era of music in 2001, then Danity Kane "damaged" would be appropriate in 2013. At least they finally caught on to Estelle's "American boy", Ne-yo's "closer" and Rihanna's "disturbia" and decided to add a Pitbull song a few weeks late as well. Thanks to one station out there for actually doing something "different"...
 
Atlanta really isnt as close to Miami as you think. Washington DC is actually closer. Chicago is almost as close as Miami from Atlanta.
Atlanta hass good Urban stations in V-103 and Hot 107.9. 95.5 The Beat is a pretty good Rhythmic/Hip Hop though I wish their list of currents was a little longer (as is the case with other Cox-owned Rhythmics), and their signal was better. I mean, The Beat's signal is pretty whack in downtown ATL.
As for CHR radio, sadly it doesnt look like Q-100 will be sounding hotter anytime soon as they're doing very well under the new PPM ratings.
I'm guessing they're the station you're referring to with regards to Danity Kane's "Damaged". They also didnt play Metro Station's mega-hit Shake It", but at least Star 94 played the shit out of it.
 
I miss the days when 93.7 KRQ was rhythmic, even though I never lived in Tucson. When 103.9 was cut away back in 1998, I was a bit desperate for something similar, so I moved my stereo and rearranged things in such a way that I was able to pick up KRQ in Phoenix. Their Saturday night shows did feature some dance, but nothing like what the old Power and Party stations did. 93.7's regular format was mostly rhythmic r&b and hip hop, and I remember hearing some stuff that wasn't given any attention in Phoenix, such as NTYCE "telefunkin" and FIVE "when the lights go out"...etc. A short while after, the top 40 KZZP was born in Phoenix so I kind of forgot about KRQ. Flash forward a few years later, I remembered to check on them again and noticed KRQ became top 40 as 104.7 Kiss FM started sounding a bit more rhythmic.

I have to say that unlike the past, I now think our 104.7 Kiss FM is better than KRQ in a few ways, and despite the fact I don't really care for the morning show too much, the station does sound a bit more "fixed" than it did when they had the Ron & Don show on 104.7 'ZZP. Top 40 back then was a bit different and there was a lot more variety and different sounds back then, and those were the days when Whitney Houston and Cher were still able to make it in top 40 radio. Now, it's all changed, but Kiss FM still sounds like they are more organized now when it comes to the feel of things. I'm not sure if I'd rather keep the present day KZZP or have the old KZZP in today's times. One thing I can say though is that with the old KZZP, it would be interesting to see what it would've sounded like today if it wasn't changed in 2002. I thought it really sounded good shortly after it's change in 2002 and has slightly been going back and forth between improving and worsening its sound ever since. Now it's sounding a bit more top 40 like it did for a while in late 2006 - early 2007 before they once again decreased the amount of alternative they played during those days. I have a feeling that Power and JamZ sounding a bit a like and JamZ adding in a few top 40 rhythmic hits has some influence on why Kiss FM has slightly tweaked it's format a bit. There were times I'd hear Kiss go for up to and even over an entire hour of nothing but rhythmic r&b and hip hop hits before ever getting to the next alternative song (usually in the evening), then there would be times when it was all mixed up with pop, rock, alternative..etc. Last night on JamZ, I heard "disturbia" followed by "just dance" followed by "whatever you like" then "let it rock". This is a sign of the changing times of rhythmic music. Each one of those songs have electro-pop style elements to it. If you imagine someone just now arriving to Phoenix, getting off the plane, going to baggage claim to pick up their baggage, and they get picked up from the airport by someone who just happened to have 101.5 JamZ playing in their car at the exact same time those four songs were played, they'd never know they weren't listening to a top 40 station right away. Imagine them also getting in a car from the airport at a time when 104.7 Kiss FM was playing nothing but rhythmic R&B and hip hop hits during the entire ride as well. They'd think they were listening to a hip hop station.

I wonder, what would it be like if we had all the stations we have now, 10 years ago today? What would KMVA be playing? What would KVIB be like? what about KZON and KZZP? And would there have ever been a KPTY with the present day format of KZON and KVIB in existance? What would KVIB be playing? What would KNRJ have been like? and what about KAJM? Would Majik 107 have been able to successfully exist with all this going on back then? If the Peak were around, they'd most likely be doing the 60's 70's 80's and whatever we want. If all this was around 20 years ago, how far would we have evolved today and would we have any room for anything new to pop up along the way?
 
KDM 7000 said:
I miss the days when 93.7 KRQ was rhythmic, even though I never lived in Tucson. When 103.9 was cut away back in 1998, I was a bit desperate for something similar, so I moved my stereo and rearranged things in such a way that I was able to pick up KRQ in Phoenix. Their Saturday night shows did feature some dance, but nothing like what the old Power and Party stations did. 93.7's regular format was mostly rhythmic r&b and hip hop, and I remember hearing some stuff that wasn't given any attention in Phoenix, such as NTYCE "telefunkin" and FIVE "when the lights go out"...etc. A short while after, the top 40 KZZP was born in Phoenix so I kind of forgot about KRQ. Flash forward a few years later, I remembered to check on them again and noticed KRQ became top 40 as 104.7 Kiss FM started sounding a bit more rhythmic.

I have to say that unlike the past, I now think our 104.7 Kiss FM is better than KRQ in a few ways, and despite the fact I don't really care for the morning show too much, the station does sound a bit more "fixed" than it did when they had the Ron & Don show on 104.7 'ZZP. Top 40 back then was a bit different and there was a lot more variety and different sounds back then, and those were the days when Whitney Houston and Cher were still able to make it in top 40 radio. Now, it's all changed, but Kiss FM still sounds like they are more organized now when it comes to the feel of things. I'm not sure if I'd rather keep the present day KZZP or have the old KZZP in today's times. One thing I can say though is that with the old KZZP, it would be interesting to see what it would've sounded like today if it wasn't changed in 2002. I thought it really sounded good shortly after it's change in 2002 and has slightly been going back and forth between improving and worsening its sound ever since. Now it's sounding a bit more top 40 like it did for a while in late 2006 - early 2007 before they once again decreased the amount of alternative they played during those days. I have a feeling that Power and JamZ sounding a bit a like and JamZ adding in a few top 40 rhythmic hits has some influence on why Kiss FM has slightly tweaked it's format a bit. There were times I'd hear Kiss go for up to and even over an entire hour of nothing but rhythmic r&b and hip hop hits before ever getting to the next alternative song (usually in the evening), then there would be times when it was all mixed up with pop, rock, alternative..etc. Last night on JamZ, I heard "disturbia" followed by "just dance" followed by "whatever you like" then "let it rock". This is a sign of the changing times of rhythmic music. Each one of those songs have electro-pop style elements to it. If you imagine someone just now arriving to Phoenix, getting off the plane, going to baggage claim to pick up their baggage, and they get picked up from the airport by someone who just happened to have 101.5 JamZ playing in their car at the exact same time those four songs were played, they'd never know they weren't listening to a top 40 station right away. Imagine them also getting in a car from the airport at a time when 104.7 Kiss FM was playing nothing but rhythmic R&B and hip hop hits during the entire ride as well. They'd think they were listening to a hip hop station.

I wonder, what would it be like if we had all the stations we have now, 10 years ago today? What would KMVA be playing? What would KVIB be like? what about KZON and KZZP? And would there have ever been a KPTY with the present day format of KZON and KVIB in existance? What would KVIB be playing? What would KNRJ have been like? and what about KAJM? Would Majik 107 have been able to successfully exist with all this going on back then? If the Peak were around, they'd most likely be doing the 60's 70's 80's and whatever we want. If all this was around 20 years ago, how far would we have evolved today and would we have any room for anything new to pop up along the way?

KRQ has been top 40 for quite a lot longer than KZZP in Phoenix (more recently). Remember, KOHT (Hip Hop/R&B) is also owned by CC, so there is no reason to duplicate. I like that fact that KRQ does not sound fixed and that they do play more variety, and many times, you'll hear a song out of the blue that is surprising (even a dance song). KZZP does sound better than it did, but IMO, I still think KRQ is a better station w/ or w/out Johnjay and Rich. I thought KZZP sounded great in its infancy as KISS and as a Modern AC prior to that.
 
KRQ might be better. I haven't listened enough to form a more accurate opinion than just being biased towards KZZP because I'm in Phoenix and I hear that the most. I'm not sure how mix show intensive KRQ is, but I remember a few years back hearing more dance or dance remixes in KRQ Saturday night mix shows than I've heard on KZZP. Over the summer, KZZP was playing a decent amount of dance within most of the mix shows they had, but that faded away pretty quick. I wonder what it will take for Phoenix? This is the same city that has been very familiar with dance music during it's "early" years. What happened?
 
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