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kelster3301
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Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would have to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
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travis
Guest
> Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would have
> to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
> is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
>
I guess the best thing to call it would be rhythmic hot AC... maybe what Star 104.5 in Philly tried doing in the mid90s.
I say bring back a mature form of Hot 105.7... a combination of pre-hip hop Hot 97 NYC (circa 92-93) and pre-hip hop 92Q Baltimore (circa 91-92), and one that doesn't bash other stations all the time (like the original Hot did with Wink).
> to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
> is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
>
I guess the best thing to call it would be rhythmic hot AC... maybe what Star 104.5 in Philly tried doing in the mid90s.
I say bring back a mature form of Hot 105.7... a combination of pre-hip hop Hot 97 NYC (circa 92-93) and pre-hip hop 92Q Baltimore (circa 91-92), and one that doesn't bash other stations all the time (like the original Hot did with Wink).
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SamBuca
Guest
> Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would have
> to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
> is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
...and that's the problem. Mainstream dance *IS*, what everyone erroneously calls, "techno". Sam Buca top 10 for REAL dance music:
Reflekt ft Delline Bass - Need To Feel Loved
Anna Vissi - Call Me (Valentin Edit)
Kelly Osbourne - One Word (Chris Cox Radio)
Jenn Cuneta - Come Rain Come Shine
Narcotic Thrust - When The Dawn Breaks
Infernal - Paris To Berlin
Madison Park vs Lenny B - More Than This (Lenny B's Radio Edit)
David Morales - Here I Am (Kaskade Radio Edit)
Gadjo - So Many Times (Eric Morillo Edit)
4 Strings - Until You Love Me (Valentin Edit)
You'd need to throw in some classics from the 80s (my all-time favorite was Information Society) along with the pop-dance craze from the 90s (EBTG, Amber, etc). Obviously you'd daypart it...softer stuff during the day, more of the harder stuff at night (Sandstorm from Darude = hard stuff; Free from Ultra Nate = soft stuff).
The issue with familiarity is there aren't any big dance outlets in the area...so any new stuff is, well, new.<P ID="signature">______________
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> to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
> is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
...and that's the problem. Mainstream dance *IS*, what everyone erroneously calls, "techno". Sam Buca top 10 for REAL dance music:
Reflekt ft Delline Bass - Need To Feel Loved
Anna Vissi - Call Me (Valentin Edit)
Kelly Osbourne - One Word (Chris Cox Radio)
Jenn Cuneta - Come Rain Come Shine
Narcotic Thrust - When The Dawn Breaks
Infernal - Paris To Berlin
Madison Park vs Lenny B - More Than This (Lenny B's Radio Edit)
David Morales - Here I Am (Kaskade Radio Edit)
Gadjo - So Many Times (Eric Morillo Edit)
4 Strings - Until You Love Me (Valentin Edit)
You'd need to throw in some classics from the 80s (my all-time favorite was Information Society) along with the pop-dance craze from the 90s (EBTG, Amber, etc). Obviously you'd daypart it...softer stuff during the day, more of the harder stuff at night (Sandstorm from Darude = hard stuff; Free from Ultra Nate = soft stuff).
The issue with familiarity is there aren't any big dance outlets in the area...so any new stuff is, well, new.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
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CowboyBob
Guest
> > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> have
> > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
>
> > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> >
> I guess the best thing to call it would be rhythmic hot
> AC... maybe what Star 104.5 in Philly tried doing in the
> mid90s.
>
> I say bring back a mature form of Hot 105.7... a combination
> of pre-hip hop Hot 97 NYC (circa 92-93) and pre-hip hop 92Q
> Baltimore (circa 91-92), and one that doesn't bash other
> stations all the time (like the original Hot did with Wink).
>
Maybe I'm wrong, but does dance music really have an audience worthy of an entire radio station in this area? I've dragged my old A** to a few area clubs in the past year. It's rap that gets people going, not dance music. Unless I am just out of touch and rap and dance are one and the same. I don't think i am. If somebody put an entire dance station on the air, we'd look back and think, "wow, this new dance station would be lucky to have numbers as big as cool pop." Yeah, I know. Cool pop doesn't have numbers. They might get some numbers at first but the numbers would crash and burn, er crash and pop, and that wouldnt be so cool.
CB
> have
> > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
>
> > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> >
> I guess the best thing to call it would be rhythmic hot
> AC... maybe what Star 104.5 in Philly tried doing in the
> mid90s.
>
> I say bring back a mature form of Hot 105.7... a combination
> of pre-hip hop Hot 97 NYC (circa 92-93) and pre-hip hop 92Q
> Baltimore (circa 91-92), and one that doesn't bash other
> stations all the time (like the original Hot did with Wink).
>
Maybe I'm wrong, but does dance music really have an audience worthy of an entire radio station in this area? I've dragged my old A** to a few area clubs in the past year. It's rap that gets people going, not dance music. Unless I am just out of touch and rap and dance are one and the same. I don't think i am. If somebody put an entire dance station on the air, we'd look back and think, "wow, this new dance station would be lucky to have numbers as big as cool pop." Yeah, I know. Cool pop doesn't have numbers. They might get some numbers at first but the numbers would crash and burn, er crash and pop, and that wouldnt be so cool.
CB
I can see eventually some station picking up the format. However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days will put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during the day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of them mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe is common to this area's mix shows)
Obviously for the type of format that has been talked about on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old remixes, it would have to be a different library of music.
My point is, however, could a station in this area get away with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where it's a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be similar.
Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just curious.
> Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would have
> to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
> is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
>
Obviously for the type of format that has been talked about on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old remixes, it would have to be a different library of music.
My point is, however, could a station in this area get away with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where it's a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be similar.
Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just curious.
> Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would have
> to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
> is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
>
> I can see eventually some station picking up the format.
> However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station
> who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days will
> put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a
> lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during the
> day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of them
> mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe
> is common to this area's mix shows)
>
> Obviously for the type of format that has been talked about
> on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old remixes,
> it would have to be a different library of music.
>
> My point is, however, could a station in this area get away
> with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the
> daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance
> from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where it's
> a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be
> similar.
>
> Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> curious.
>
>
> > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> have
> > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
>
> > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> >
>
Kiss or Hot. I'm surprised neither of these stations, especially Hot (which is still somewhat dance-friendly for a Rhythmic CHR), has picked up on a weekend dance show.
But since they don't seem poised to do it, maybe CoolPop could have some kind of dance mixshow on Friday or Saturday night. Mix in the freestyle and 90's dance that was huge on Wink with a few current tracks. It could sound pretty good and would compliment their format.
> However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station
> who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days will
> put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a
> lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during the
> day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of them
> mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe
> is common to this area's mix shows)
>
> Obviously for the type of format that has been talked about
> on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old remixes,
> it would have to be a different library of music.
>
> My point is, however, could a station in this area get away
> with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the
> daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance
> from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where it's
> a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be
> similar.
>
> Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> curious.
>
>
> > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> have
> > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
>
> > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> >
>
Kiss or Hot. I'm surprised neither of these stations, especially Hot (which is still somewhat dance-friendly for a Rhythmic CHR), has picked up on a weekend dance show.
But since they don't seem poised to do it, maybe CoolPop could have some kind of dance mixshow on Friday or Saturday night. Mix in the freestyle and 90's dance that was huge on Wink with a few current tracks. It could sound pretty good and would compliment their format.
S
SamBuca
Guest
> Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> curious.
When Dragonfly opened, it was PACKED. You couldn't move. They played dance.
Late 2002 they threw some hip hop in. Half the crowd left.
Somewhere in 2003-2004 it became all hip hop. It's now completely dead all the time.
I rest my case.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> curious.
When Dragonfly opened, it was PACKED. You couldn't move. They played dance.
Late 2002 they threw some hip hop in. Half the crowd left.
Somewhere in 2003-2004 it became all hip hop. It's now completely dead all the time.
I rest my case.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
G
gethigh
Guest
HOT 92.1 used to have a saturday night Mix show back when it first went on-air.
What happened to it...did John o'Dea decide to kill it when he shuffled Mike, host of the dance party from where the mix show was live from in Harrisburg.
> > I can see eventually some station picking up the format.
> > However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station
> > who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days
> will
> > put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a
> > lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during
> the
> > day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of
> them
> > mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe
>
> > is common to this area's mix shows)
> >
> > Obviously for the type of format that has been talked
> about
> > on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old
> remixes,
> > it would have to be a different library of music.
> >
> > My point is, however, could a station in this area get
> away
> > with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the
>
> > daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance
> > from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where
> it's
> > a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be
> > similar.
> >
> > Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> > audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> > curious.
> >
> >
> > > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> > have
> > > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it.
> Familiarity
> >
> > > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> > >
> >
>
>
> Kiss or Hot. I'm surprised neither of these stations,
> especially Hot (which is still somewhat dance-friendly for a
> Rhythmic CHR), has picked up on a weekend dance show.
>
> But since they don't seem poised to do it, maybe CoolPop
> could have some kind of dance mixshow on Friday or Saturday
> night. Mix in the freestyle and 90's dance that was huge on
> Wink with a few current tracks. It could sound pretty good
> and would compliment their format.
>
What happened to it...did John o'Dea decide to kill it when he shuffled Mike, host of the dance party from where the mix show was live from in Harrisburg.
> > I can see eventually some station picking up the format.
> > However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station
> > who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days
> will
> > put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a
> > lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during
> the
> > day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of
> them
> > mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe
>
> > is common to this area's mix shows)
> >
> > Obviously for the type of format that has been talked
> about
> > on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old
> remixes,
> > it would have to be a different library of music.
> >
> > My point is, however, could a station in this area get
> away
> > with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the
>
> > daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance
> > from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where
> it's
> > a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be
> > similar.
> >
> > Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> > audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> > curious.
> >
> >
> > > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> > have
> > > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it.
> Familiarity
> >
> > > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> > >
> >
>
>
> Kiss or Hot. I'm surprised neither of these stations,
> especially Hot (which is still somewhat dance-friendly for a
> Rhythmic CHR), has picked up on a weekend dance show.
>
> But since they don't seem poised to do it, maybe CoolPop
> could have some kind of dance mixshow on Friday or Saturday
> night. Mix in the freestyle and 90's dance that was huge on
> Wink with a few current tracks. It could sound pretty good
> and would compliment their format.
>
K
kelster3301
Guest
I guess it all depends on who you want to reach.
25-54 will have to be more "mass appeal"
You might be able to be more progressive with the music if you want 18-34, but is the 18-34 audience in this market big enough to make it to #1.
Block programming would be necessary, with heavy dayparting.
Personality and a connection with the community is key.
> I can see eventually some station picking up the format.
> However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station
> who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days will
> put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a
> lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during the
> day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of them
> mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe
> is common to this area's mix shows)
>
> Obviously for the type of format that has been talked about
> on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old remixes,
> it would have to be a different library of music.
>
> My point is, however, could a station in this area get away
> with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the
> daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance
> from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where it's
> a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be
> similar.
>
> Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> curious.
>
>
> > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> have
> > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
>
> > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> >
>
25-54 will have to be more "mass appeal"
You might be able to be more progressive with the music if you want 18-34, but is the 18-34 audience in this market big enough to make it to #1.
Block programming would be necessary, with heavy dayparting.
Personality and a connection with the community is key.
> I can see eventually some station picking up the format.
> However, I have noticed in some larger markets, a station
> who typically leans CHR or Rhythmic AC during the days will
> put on a dance show at night. sure, the music includes a
> lot of remixes of the same crap they're spinning during the
> day, but it is a different feel to the station- some of them
> mixed live on the air (ie. no syndicated CD's as i believe
> is common to this area's mix shows)
>
> Obviously for the type of format that has been talked about
> on these posts, it's not just a simple as plain old remixes,
> it would have to be a different library of music.
>
> My point is, however, could a station in this area get away
> with being "normal" (for lack of a better word) during the
> daytime hours, and shift their programming over to dance
> from 6P-6A? I'm not talking college radio-style where it's
> a differnt format every hour, but i guess it would be
> similar.
>
> Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> curious.
>
>
> > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> have
> > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it. Familiarity
>
> > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> >
>
> > Would there be enough seperation to attract two distinct
> > audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> > curious.
>
> When Dragonfly opened, it was PACKED. You couldn't move.
> They played dance.
>
> Late 2002 they threw some hip hop in. Half the crowd left.
>
> Somewhere in 2003-2004 it became all hip hop. It's now
> completely dead all the time.
>
> I rest my case.
>
You are both correct. The people that go to the mainstream clubs like Eclipse and the old Club One want to hear hip-hop. I used to go to Club One and every time they spun dance the floor would empty out and 90% of the crowd would stop dancing. The thugs stopped dancing, so of course everybody else followed. That place was a joke.
If you have a club that plays just dance, like Dragonfly used to, it's going to be packed.
> > audiences, or would the be a lot of crossover? Just
> > curious.
>
> When Dragonfly opened, it was PACKED. You couldn't move.
> They played dance.
>
> Late 2002 they threw some hip hop in. Half the crowd left.
>
> Somewhere in 2003-2004 it became all hip hop. It's now
> completely dead all the time.
>
> I rest my case.
>
You are both correct. The people that go to the mainstream clubs like Eclipse and the old Club One want to hear hip-hop. I used to go to Club One and every time they spun dance the floor would empty out and 90% of the crowd would stop dancing. The thugs stopped dancing, so of course everybody else followed. That place was a joke.
If you have a club that plays just dance, like Dragonfly used to, it's going to be packed.
S
SamBuca
Guest
> I used to go to Club One and every time they spun
> dance the floor would empty out and 90% of the crowd would
> stop dancing. The thugs stopped dancing, so of course
> everybody else followed. That place was a joke.
That's different. Underage clubs money is made on cover and water. $1 for water is MUCH less than $5 for a shot plus they're not there to drink, ergo, you need to do everything you can to boost sales once they're in the building. Quickest way to get people to the "bar" is to play a crappy song that will clear the floor.
Go to any of the "clubs" in the area and you'll see the following:
0 mins = 80-90bpm
10 mins = 90-95bpm
20 mins = 95-100bpm
30 mins = 100-105bpm
40 mins = 105-110bpm
50 mins = 110-115bpm
1 hour = a few dance tracks then a quick move back down into the rap. Everytime you hear A Little Bit Of Ecstacy, Missing, Boombastic, or Planet Soul you can bet your life savings that it's been about an hour since the set started, the dance floor is empty and the jock is taking it back down.
On a side note, I think the best stunt was when the owner of one of the clubs put a framed sign in the DJ booth that gave the definition of "complacency" as:
1) An instance of contented self-satisfaction
2) Playing the same songs in the same order during the same times every week<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> dance the floor would empty out and 90% of the crowd would
> stop dancing. The thugs stopped dancing, so of course
> everybody else followed. That place was a joke.
That's different. Underage clubs money is made on cover and water. $1 for water is MUCH less than $5 for a shot plus they're not there to drink, ergo, you need to do everything you can to boost sales once they're in the building. Quickest way to get people to the "bar" is to play a crappy song that will clear the floor.
Go to any of the "clubs" in the area and you'll see the following:
0 mins = 80-90bpm
10 mins = 90-95bpm
20 mins = 95-100bpm
30 mins = 100-105bpm
40 mins = 105-110bpm
50 mins = 110-115bpm
1 hour = a few dance tracks then a quick move back down into the rap. Everytime you hear A Little Bit Of Ecstacy, Missing, Boombastic, or Planet Soul you can bet your life savings that it's been about an hour since the set started, the dance floor is empty and the jock is taking it back down.
On a side note, I think the best stunt was when the owner of one of the clubs put a framed sign in the DJ booth that gave the definition of "complacency" as:
1) An instance of contented self-satisfaction
2) Playing the same songs in the same order during the same times every week<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
J
JasonRadioPA77
Guest
A dance station would never work here, there or anywhere! Now, the reasons why:
1. Not enough shares
2. Without the shares...no Money.
3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to that crap 24-7?
4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico, NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
One More Thing: Everyone was talking about Cool Pop in an earlier post. YOU'RE DEAD...infact, you never even had a pulse. You were DOA!!!! No offense to any jock working there, you're all talented and deserve better. Besides, wasn't Cool Pop the nations first Jack anyway?
Again, DANCE WONT WORK!
> > > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> > have
> > > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it.
> Familiarity
> >
> > > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> > >
> > I guess the best thing to call it would be rhythmic hot
> > AC... maybe what Star 104.5 in Philly tried doing in the
> > mid90s.
> >
> > I say bring back a mature form of Hot 105.7... a
> combination
> > of pre-hip hop Hot 97 NYC (circa 92-93) and pre-hip hop
> 92Q
> > Baltimore (circa 91-92), and one that doesn't bash other
> > stations all the time (like the original Hot did with
> Wink).
> >
>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but does dance music really have an
> audience worthy of an entire radio station in this area?
> I've dragged my old A** to a few area clubs in the past
> year. It's rap that gets people going, not dance music.
> Unless I am just out of touch and rap and dance are one and
> the same. I don't think i am. If somebody put an entire
> dance station on the air, we'd look back and think, "wow,
> this new dance station would be lucky to have numbers as big
> as cool pop." Yeah, I know. Cool pop doesn't have numbers.
> They might get some numbers at first but the numbers would
> crash and burn, er crash and pop, and that wouldnt be so
> cool.
>
> CB
>
1. Not enough shares
2. Without the shares...no Money.
3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to that crap 24-7?
4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico, NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
One More Thing: Everyone was talking about Cool Pop in an earlier post. YOU'RE DEAD...infact, you never even had a pulse. You were DOA!!!! No offense to any jock working there, you're all talented and deserve better. Besides, wasn't Cool Pop the nations first Jack anyway?
Again, DANCE WONT WORK!
> > > Women 18-34 even 25-54 would be all over it. You would
> > have
> > > to be careful not to get too "techno" with it.
> Familiarity
> >
> > > is key with just enough new dance mixes to be hip.
> > >
> > I guess the best thing to call it would be rhythmic hot
> > AC... maybe what Star 104.5 in Philly tried doing in the
> > mid90s.
> >
> > I say bring back a mature form of Hot 105.7... a
> combination
> > of pre-hip hop Hot 97 NYC (circa 92-93) and pre-hip hop
> 92Q
> > Baltimore (circa 91-92), and one that doesn't bash other
> > stations all the time (like the original Hot did with
> Wink).
> >
>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but does dance music really have an
> audience worthy of an entire radio station in this area?
> I've dragged my old A** to a few area clubs in the past
> year. It's rap that gets people going, not dance music.
> Unless I am just out of touch and rap and dance are one and
> the same. I don't think i am. If somebody put an entire
> dance station on the air, we'd look back and think, "wow,
> this new dance station would be lucky to have numbers as big
> as cool pop." Yeah, I know. Cool pop doesn't have numbers.
> They might get some numbers at first but the numbers would
> crash and burn, er crash and pop, and that wouldnt be so
> cool.
>
> CB
>
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SamBuca
Guest
> Again, DANCE WONT WORK!
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BobAltimari
Guest
> A dance station would never work here, there or anywhere!
> Now, the reasons why:
>
> 1. Not enough shares
> 2. Without the shares...no Money.
> 3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to
> that crap 24-7?
> 4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend
> programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
> 5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico,
> NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
San Fran-sicko.....love the ersatz Michael Savage callback!
>
> One More Thing: Everyone was talking about Cool Pop in an
> earlier post. YOU'RE DEAD...infact, you never even had a
> pulse. You were DOA!!!! No offense to any jock working
> there, you're all talented and deserve better. Besides,
> wasn't Cool Pop the nations first Jack anyway?
>
>
> Again, DANCE WONT WORK!
>
>
>
Poor Jason...please come join us over here!
You see,, we represent those who are in the minority on these boards....those who KNOW dance doesnt work. Also, sensible adults dont like dance OR rap/hip-hop. We're castugated since we don't conform to the norm. We're ridiculed, told our format is dead, called old, out of touch...and when our posts come up, we're told that we don't deserve a voice on these boards (as in our opinions mean squat, how can we have an opinion if we've never heard the music, etc.).
So, welcome to our club, Jason. Everyday, we meet over here (in the corner, of course) and enjoy a stay of "whatever you say is wrong, grandpa".<P ID="signature">______________
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
> Now, the reasons why:
>
> 1. Not enough shares
> 2. Without the shares...no Money.
> 3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to
> that crap 24-7?
> 4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend
> programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
> 5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico,
> NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
San Fran-sicko.....love the ersatz Michael Savage callback!
>
> One More Thing: Everyone was talking about Cool Pop in an
> earlier post. YOU'RE DEAD...infact, you never even had a
> pulse. You were DOA!!!! No offense to any jock working
> there, you're all talented and deserve better. Besides,
> wasn't Cool Pop the nations first Jack anyway?
>
>
> Again, DANCE WONT WORK!
>
>
>
Poor Jason...please come join us over here!
You see,, we represent those who are in the minority on these boards....those who KNOW dance doesnt work. Also, sensible adults dont like dance OR rap/hip-hop. We're castugated since we don't conform to the norm. We're ridiculed, told our format is dead, called old, out of touch...and when our posts come up, we're told that we don't deserve a voice on these boards (as in our opinions mean squat, how can we have an opinion if we've never heard the music, etc.).
So, welcome to our club, Jason. Everyday, we meet over here (in the corner, of course) and enjoy a stay of "whatever you say is wrong, grandpa".<P ID="signature">______________
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
A dance station would never work here, there or anywhere!
> Now, the reasons why:
>
> 1. Not enough shares
> 2. Without the shares...no Money.
> 3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to
> that crap 24-7?
> 4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend
> programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
> 5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico,
> NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
I may be wrong, but I would disagree with that. True, the share would be small, but a three share is way better than a no-share. I believe this format would fly in any conservative market if executed properly. Disco and classic non-rap R&B that didn't skew too young would be an appropriate mix. I would stay away from the techno stuff altogether. When Clear Channel programmed 104.7 as "Jammin' Oldies" in Pittsburgh, they tried to skew towards the newer music (which included rap), and then their numbers REALLY dropped. Enter news/talk. Prior to that, they rocked...thanks to Clarke Ingram, one of the precious few hands-on PD's left in the industry.
> Now, the reasons why:
>
> 1. Not enough shares
> 2. Without the shares...no Money.
> 3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to
> that crap 24-7?
> 4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend
> programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
> 5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico,
> NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
I may be wrong, but I would disagree with that. True, the share would be small, but a three share is way better than a no-share. I believe this format would fly in any conservative market if executed properly. Disco and classic non-rap R&B that didn't skew too young would be an appropriate mix. I would stay away from the techno stuff altogether. When Clear Channel programmed 104.7 as "Jammin' Oldies" in Pittsburgh, they tried to skew towards the newer music (which included rap), and then their numbers REALLY dropped. Enter news/talk. Prior to that, they rocked...thanks to Clarke Ingram, one of the precious few hands-on PD's left in the industry.
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hellskitchen85
Guest
BAD MOVE ALTOGETHER!!! I do agree with another poster, why pollute beautiful central PA with this junk? Also, Philly's 106.1 isn't so hot sounding and I am sure they are not going to improve. Matter of fact, they just suck bad!!!
I do belive it will be of great interest for central PA to not have one. I think this market is fine as it is.
JUST THANK HEAVENS YOU ARE NOT IN PHILLY!!! NOW THAT IS JUST TERRIBLE!!!
I do belive it will be of great interest for central PA to not have one. I think this market is fine as it is.
JUST THANK HEAVENS YOU ARE NOT IN PHILLY!!! NOW THAT IS JUST TERRIBLE!!!
Bob said:> A dance station would never work here, there or anywhere!
> Now, the reasons why:
>
> 1. Not enough shares
> 2. Without the shares...no Money.
> 3. What sensible, mature adult do you know would listen to
> that crap 24-7?
> 4. At the best dance is some special spice weekend
> programming that's thrown in on Friday or Saturday nights.
> 5. If a dance station won't fly in Dallas, San Fransico,
> NYC, or LA...then why would it work in beautiful Central PA.
San Fran-sicko.....love the ersatz Michael Savage callback!
>
> One More Thing: Everyone was talking about Cool Pop in an
> earlier post. YOU'RE DEAD...infact, you never even had a
> pulse. You were DOA!!!! No offense to any jock working
> there, you're all talented and deserve better. Besides,
> wasn't Cool Pop the nations first Jack anyway?
>
>
> Again, DANCE WONT WORK!
>
>
>
Poor Jason...please come join us over here!
You see,, we represent those who are in the minority on these boards....those who KNOW dance doesnt work. Also, sensible adults dont like dance OR rap/hip-hop. We're castugated since we don't conform to the norm. We're ridiculed, told our format is dead, called old, out of touch...and when our posts come up, we're told that we don't deserve a voice on these boards (as in our opinions mean squat, how can we have an opinion if we've never heard the music, etc.).
So, welcome to our club, Jason. Everyday, we meet over here (in the corner, of course) and enjoy a stay of "whatever you say is wrong, grandpa".<P ID="signature">______________
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
Hmmmm, if I didn't know any better, I'd swear I wrote that at some point.
*looks at Bob's sig* yeah, that's MY old sig.....HEY, WAIT A MINUTE HERE.....!!!
The question you have to ask yourselves is: when are people actually going to listen to this "dance station"? Do you want to hear it on your way to work in the morning? Nope, well there go the morning drive numbers. How about during work? My guess is no, maybe if you have a boring job or something but my guess is the radion will stay on Wink or the River. There are your midday numbers. Maybe on the ride home? Thats possible for a minute as maybe you will use it to help energize your night, so ok we'll give a few numbers for afternoon drive. Now for the key to that format.... night. Will people listen at night? Who listens to radion at night? The answer to the second question is the downfall of a dance station: Young people. Kiss and Hot's numbers are insane at night. And what young people like is hip-hop or punk-pop type music. In a market this size and non-diverse a dance station will just not see the light of day. I'm not saying the format is dead or crappy music. You just have to look at it in a business sense. How will sales sell a station like that? To who? A glowstick and ecstasy producing company? K that was a stupid joke.... sorry
Wake up. The country is "Movin". Tailored to Central Pa, this could work. Put it on a good signal like 106.7.
Mix is a disaster. The "progressive" thinkers at Citadel should consider this for their next move..which can't be more than six months away....unless things change drastically in E-town.
Mix is a disaster. The "progressive" thinkers at Citadel should consider this for their next move..which can't be more than six months away....unless things change drastically in E-town.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, so I'll voice mine as well! Many years ago I lived in the Tampa Bay area when The Power Pig was dominating the market. They weren't always number one, but they held their own. They used local club DJ's to mix the sets for them in the production studio and played them back over the air. I knew 2 of the jocks personally that were part of the project. Had the station not flipped to 93.3 FLZ and mixing up the format a bit more, I probably would have jumped on the opportunity to mix for them myself, even if the pay was low and there was absolutely no glory in it (they never gave credit to the mixologists on the air). It still would have been fun.
As far as listening to dance, I could handle that format on my drive to work, so could my fiance. We're both pushing 40, but still love to dance. We may be old to some of you, but we ain't dead yet! Rap?? falls into the oxymoron category- Microsoft Works, Military Intelligence and Rap Music!
As far as listening to dance, I could handle that format on my drive to work, so could my fiance. We're both pushing 40, but still love to dance. We may be old to some of you, but we ain't dead yet! Rap?? falls into the oxymoron category- Microsoft Works, Military Intelligence and Rap Music!
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