I think if los angelos has another dance station they need to make simuler to ktu in new york city or they might not get money
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- Thread starter jeffrey palmroy
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They could probably make money by also having a dance lean rhythmic playing CURRENT hits. However, that is if one of the already existing rhythmic sounding stations are "removed".
Dancing is for clubs, not for driving in cars.
Dance is not a radio format.
Dance is not a radio format.
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musicman3355
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I'm hoping for either "The NEW Pulse 92.7" or "the all NEW Party 96.3". "Bringing the party to all of LA and the OC!" ;D
musicman3355 said:
92.7 does not put a useful (64 dbu) at home / at work signal over even 15% of the market population.
Unless 96.3 were sold or LMAed, I don't see SBS doing a pure general market play.
Nick said:
There was no point in even responding to the comment. Back in 2008, when people still thought the concept of uptempo electronic beats was just absolutely insane, maybe I would've responded. But not in 2010, where my once insane prediction about dance music coming back has now become part of the norm, with a bunch of hip hop, pop, and r&b artists themselves all "abandoning their own sound" and jumping on the rhythmic dance sound. I don't think I have to say more. In 2010, just let the sound of hit music and current trends do the talking, the same way people will also let the polls do the talking on Tuesday, election day.
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MarcR
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KDM 7000 said:Nick said:
There was no point in even responding to the comment. Back in 2008, when people still thought the concept of uptempo electronic beats was just absolutely insane, maybe I would've responded. But not in 2010, where my once insane prediction about dance music coming back has now become part of the norm, with a bunch of hip hop, pop, and r&b artists themselves all "abandoning their own sound" and jumping on the rhythmic dance sound. I don't think I have to say more. In 2010, just let the sound of hit music and current trends do the talking, the same way people will also let the polls do the talking on Tuesday, election day.
And yet, you can't point to a single current-dance formatted station in the entire country. Very interesting!!
MarcR said:
I will go back and proofread, but I don't believe that I mentioned anything about a "dance station" here.
Buckethead said:
But you can listen to a dance tune in your car and like it.
See...that's the ignorance that I often get at.
I'm not even going to go there with Marc R, the man is a MAJOR HATER of the format so you can't take what he says seriously.
If there was an economically viable audience for a "dance" format there would be a dance format.
Free market rules.
Free market rules.
Buckethead said:
I can't speak for Los Angeles, though I would strongly think so but there certainly is the audience for the New York City Metropolitan area. Just a matter of doing it. And if the music is getting into CHR stations, then it's a good thing and just a matter of time.
Free market rules.
Buckethead said:
I'm wondering if the greater presence of dance or pseudodance on CHRs increases interest in more dance... or satisfies the need and reduces any interest in a more-dance type format.
DavidEduardo said:
Now THIS is a great question! If only politicians could be asked simple, but thought provoking questions with the same amount of thought put into them, they'd be forced to think more about the issues at hand rather than...
OK, let me not get off topic here. I could begin to analyze and break down this question right now if I wanted to, but will resist, due to the amount of time and length of post I'll use up hypothesizing this. I am, though, encouraging others who are prone to saying everything in one short sentence to answer with their opinions.
I already have some replies in mind, but... if I start, it will only cause a chain reaction of further thoughts to erupt in my mind, causing me to have an endless amount of things to say, which will only lead to me reasking the same question in the end of my novel, proceeded with "so based on what I've said so far, do you think...."
In other words, this question to me is like
"which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
or
"if the big bang started everything, then where did the big bang come from?"
I'm sure unlike those other two questions, the dance one COULD be figured out easily - by waiting a few years and using hind-site. BUT, even looking back from the future, regardless of how things unfold music and radio-wise over the next few years, a person will still not be able to prove that a greater presence of dance or pseudodance on CHR today either caused or prevented the dance trend from growing stronger...
Which came first? Oh, I dunno maybe
Marrs Radio
Groove Radio
KDL
It's not like the format hasn't been given its chances. I am not a hater, in fact, I've listened to each one of those stations from time to time when they were on, but c'mon, how many times does the format have to fail before you all quit wishing on a star?
Dance radio is on a niche format that belongs on a niche frequency, say, AM 1150. But of course the core demo has never heard of an AM radio and its not like they're on sale down at the Ipod store. So which didn't happen first? The format wasn't put on the proper frequency or the demo didn't tune into that frequency? Hmmm....
Marrs Radio
Groove Radio
KDL
It's not like the format hasn't been given its chances. I am not a hater, in fact, I've listened to each one of those stations from time to time when they were on, but c'mon, how many times does the format have to fail before you all quit wishing on a star?
Dance radio is on a niche format that belongs on a niche frequency, say, AM 1150. But of course the core demo has never heard of an AM radio and its not like they're on sale down at the Ipod store. So which didn't happen first? The format wasn't put on the proper frequency or the demo didn't tune into that frequency? Hmmm....
The type of music being played on CHR is not similar to what is refered to as "dance" music.
CHR plays pop structured songs where "dance" is typically a repetition of loops and beats.
Now I really dislike the CHR pop music of today. The Robot effect is a real shame and I cannot imagine ANY of these artists
making it in the days of Motown. However, "dance" music takes even LESS talent. All you need is a laptop.
Thats neither here nor there, I just personally hope for the current CHR music AND Dance to shrivel up and die.
CHR plays pop structured songs where "dance" is typically a repetition of loops and beats.
Now I really dislike the CHR pop music of today. The Robot effect is a real shame and I cannot imagine ANY of these artists
making it in the days of Motown. However, "dance" music takes even LESS talent. All you need is a laptop.
Thats neither here nor there, I just personally hope for the current CHR music AND Dance to shrivel up and die.
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musicman3355
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Pulse 87 NYC had a 1.0 and almost hit a cume of a million. That's pretty great for a low-power station and on a frequency most radios can't tune to (87.7). In Canada, Z103.5 does pretty well with its dance format. Not to mention Las Vegas' Vibe 94.5 is still trending. So see the ratings before you judge.Buckethead said:
Buckethead said:
Then kill me first because it won't die. Not if I can help it.
BTW, I am a dance music activist in New York City so we can argue to the hills on this one, I'm not going to relent here
Regarding Pulse, from musicman3355, if it was above 92 with a strong signal, it would have been in the TOP 5! The Vibe is going through changes for the better (thank you Mike O).And THIS TIME AROUND, I don't know if you have a station similar to 92.3 Now in NYC (I would think KIIS is like the Z-100 here) but with their mix of dance/rhythmic, that is how things are going to progress on CHR. But then again, you don't like today's CHR so really, what's the point in trying to describe it. BTW, for educational purposes, the ROBOT effect is called "Autotune". I'm not crazy about it either, but that's the reality of todays music.
Motown? If Motown happened today, be sure guys like James Jamerson and the Funk Bros. would be on electronic equipment today. No dissing the classic sound, but were in 2010, it is what it is.
And on Channel Flipper...this time around a dance station would HAVE to have a Rihanna, Ne-Yo, Lady Gaga, Usher.....you can't go pure like the stations you've listed there. It's not about the "core fans" like us, but about that 20 year old girl that thinks of those artists as "dance music". Educate first and then the mind can expand
DavidEduardo said:
Take a look at 92.3 Now in NYC as of late
While the shares are nowhere NEAR what Z-100 has, the fact of the matter is that Now HAS been growing in terms of listenership because of the addition of dance tracks such as Yolanda B. Cool "We No Speak Americano" and Edward Maya "Stereo Love"...both of which are currently on the Billboard charts. I think this time around, it's not a matter of getting to the core fans, but to that 20 year old girl who thinks of Rihanna, Ne-Yo and other rhythmic artists as dance to expand further. Once they hear those rhythmic artists interspersed with dance tracks or even REMIXES by those artists, can things grow and open up to a 70% dance/30% rhythmic aspect. This time around we just can't "overload" them right off the bat. It's not just about the core fans but getting new people involved this time around.No intellectual responses out of me because based on the type of some of the responses given, I see that some people are talking without thinking. :-X
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