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Dave Sholin

Was offered the PD job at the New KFRC. Will he accept?
 
That's sounds more up his alley. I know he has his own business and has shown little interest in doing any fill-in or part-time air work on the old KFRC (2004-05)

Now as a program director that's a whole different story. A PD position has much more appeal to someone who runs their own businees.

Being able to be the creative force at the new KFRC has much more appeal to someone like Dave Sholin that any air shift would.

In fact if he does become the PD at KFRC perhaps we could expect a format that is more song focused that artist focused as it is now.

What are your thoughts?

Newsperson
 
I don't know if it's just a rumor or not. It makes sense that CBS would ask him. Whether he's interested is another story. Having "the Duke" as PD sounds good to me.
 
I would question how much appeal a modern-day PD position holds for a veteran programmer when 90-plus percent of the job entails following corporate mandates to the letter and making the trains run on time - only to get fired anyway when the station changes format - again.
 
newsbot said:
I would question how much appeal a modern-day PD position holds for a veteran programmer when 90-plus percent of the job entails following corporate mandates to the letter and making the trains run on time - only to get fired anyway when the station changes format - again.

And that, my friends, kinda sums up all the complaints on this board about why radio isn't the way it used to be. The good programmers are either unemployable because they reject the ways of corporations who have sucked up all the stations and sucked out all good radio energy, or they've been screwed so many times that they opted for other careers.

And radio should NOT be the way it used to be. Like all media, it must change with the times and reflect the tastes of the audience. But the last few years have not been good times for radio programming talent, so many good ones have gotten out (or been forced out) of the business. And now you've got what's left.
 
newsbot said:
I would question how much appeal a modern-day PD position holds for a veteran programmer when 90-plus percent of the job entails following corporate mandates to the letter and making the trains run on time - only to get fired anyway when the station changes format - again.

DITTOS!

Why anyone worth a shi- would even get into radio is beyond me. Radio is so unstable now. GM's who believe every CONsultant that comes knocking on their door convincing him they can do better with the latest flavor of the month format. Blowing out good jocks for little or no reason. Format changes every 12mos. Overreacting to one or two flat books. One down trend and the sharks(consultants) are there to discredit the pd and thus the station gets further behind by changing formats again. The clueless have taken over!

It's insanity out there!!!!!
 
blackhole said:
EDwalker said:
BossJock1947 said:
Was offered the PD job at the New KFRC. Will he accept?

No he wasn't.

He was, but money is an issue. Isn't it always?

Yes money IS the issue especially these days. Most stations are paying 1980's wages.
 
This is a great thread going here with everyone. Don't look at radio as 1980's wages. Sorry, but radio has to be a business and it that is the way it has always been. The difference (for now) is that radio as a business is being controlled by Wall Street. Yep, it is the bottom line and budgets are budgets.

I wish we could go back with creative energetic PD's, but the companies will not allow decisions to be made by only one person at an 80 million dollar station. That is the way big bizz works for now.

Unfortunately you have the consutants robbing these stations blind with their bogus formats. The guys who came up with "Movin" should be so ashamed of themselves with their results from LA, San Francisco, Dallas, Phoenix, and other markets. All local management had to do was research locally, get some great personalities, and put some fun into the product. You have to quit looking at those consultant lists.

RGM
 
BossJock1947 said:
blackhole said:
EDwalker said:
BossJock1947 said:
Was offered the PD job at the New KFRC. Will he accept?

No he wasn't.

He was, but money is an issue. Isn't it always?

Yes money IS the issue especially these days. Most stations are paying 1980's wages.

Actually, I think the 80's paid better. There was some big money being made back then by some.
 
Sholin would be the poetic choice...they gave him the gig in 1986, after Mike Phillips took the station too whitebread and consultant Walt Sabo was allowed to nearly euthanize it with the Game Zone. If anyone could have brought KFRC back from the brink, it was Dave...but they made the decision in July to flip to Standards in August as Magic 61.

---Michael Hagerty
 
Michael Hagarty said: "Sholin would be the poetic choice...they gave him the gig in 1986, after Mike Phillips took the station too whitebread and consultant Walt Sabo was allowed to nearly euthanize it with the Game Zone. If anyone could have brought KFRC back from the brink, it was Dave...but they made the decision in July to flip to Standards in August as Magic 61."

Michael - Unless my memory is off-base (and it often is), I believe The Duke presided over the format flip to standards, and was Magic 61's PD, at least initially. So I guess that would be "Duke" as in "Ellington," not "of Earl."

Am I wrong about that?
 
And, Dave became PD of 610 in October 1985 when Mike Phillips left. You are indeed correct. Mr. Sholin was the PD until Harry Valentine became Magic 61's Program Director in early 1987.
 
Lkeller said:
Michael - Unless my memory is off-base (and it often is), I believe The Duke presided over the format flip to standards, and was Magic 61's PD, at least initially. So I guess that would be "Duke" as in "Ellington," not "of Earl."

Am I wrong about that?

Llew: It was "Earl" and "Ellington". About 5 years ago, when we launched AZ-TV here in Phoenix, one of our sales guys was Pat McNally, GM of KFRC shortly after the flip to "Magic 61". He told me the story...he liked Sholin, but Dave (according to Pat) couldn't get comfortable with the new standards format and asked to leave. Pat hired Harry Valentine.

In my book (though Dave presided over the format flip and the first few months), Dave is the last PD of the "real" KFRC...and would be a great pick to program the "new" KFRC.

---Michael Hagerty
 
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