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David Lee Roth .. oh, oh!

> A little discord in NYC, according to the New York Daily
> News.
>
http:> //www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/385157p-326862c.html
>
>
>
> Come on Nik, fill us in with what you hear.
>

Sure sounds like Dave to me. Hmm, they didn't bother to check refrences when they hired him?? (Sammy Hager, VH Brothers?)

stupid move . . .

maybe there will be a Nik and Neanderpol morning show on BCN afterall :)

Roach
 
> Sure sounds like Dave to me. Hmm, they didn't bother to
> check refrences when they hired him?? (Sammy Hager, VH
> Brothers?)
>
> stupid move . . .
>
> maybe there will be a Nik and Neanderpol morning show on BCN
> afterall :)
>
> Roach
>

I'm in! When do we start?
 
DLr is a fine humanitarian, that's my story and im sticking to it!

> A little discord in NYC, according to the New York Daily
> News.
>
http:> //www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/385157p-326862c.html
>
>
>
> Come on Nik, fill us in with what you hear.
>
OOOOOOOOH NNNNNNOOOOOO Im not walking into THAT trap, I'll just say there were 20 palm trees in the building, two in the studio, now they're gone. Dave's nice to ME, and that's all I know. As a rule I just stay out of EVERYBODY's way in that building!

LOl<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by NotoriousN-I-K on 01/25/06 02:14 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Jesus Christ this guy talks about a bunch of absolutely NOTHING! He's been chatting about "Sports drinks" for the past Half hour. Now I remember why I've been listening to traffic outside my Window for the past couple of weeks. It's been much more entertaining!


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Re: DLr is a fine humanitarian, that's my story and im sticking to it!

> OOOOOOOOH NNNNNNOOOOOO Im not walking into THAT trap, I'll
> just say there were 20 palm trees in the building, two in
> the studio, now they're gone. Dave's nice to ME, and that's
> all I know. As a rule I just stay out of EVERYBODY's way in
> that building!
>
> LOl
>

yea, yea. keep stroking the corporate radio c**k. roth is one of the worst
hirings in this business ever and you keep spinning this 'nice guy' bs to the dummies. you're acting like one of hollander's lapboys. same goes for marshall who was a roth-hater when he wore the waaf uniform. show some respect and grow some balls, dudes. stop being corproate radio (BLEEP).
 
The whole David Lee Roth incident shows just how far radio has fallen.

His hiring wasn't done by some second rate manager at a third rate station in East Podunk. It was done by so called professionals working for a large corporation that specializes in radio.

I don't think there was a person on this board that believed that Roth would make a good talk show host but the "experts" apparently did. With people like that running radio it's no wonder radio is in the state that it's in. The problem began when the big corporations saw the success of radio in the 80's and thought that they could buy into the cash cow. They paid too much money for most of the stations, had to load the programming up with commercials to cover their costs and put accountants and MBA with absolutely no love for the medium in charge.

These people are absolutely clueless.

- Al
http://www.carnali.com
 
Perspective.

> The whole David Lee Roth incident shows just how far radio
> has fallen.
>
> His hiring wasn't done by some second rate manager at a
> third rate station in East Podunk. It was done by so called
> professionals working for a large corporation that
> specializes in radio.
>
> I don't think there was a person on this board that believed
> that Roth would make a good talk show host but the "experts"
> apparently did. With people like that running radio it's no
> wonder radio is in the state that it's in. The problem
> began when the big corporations saw the success of radio in
> the 80's and thought that they could buy into the cash cow.
> They paid too much money for most of the stations, had to
> load the programming up with commercials to cover their
> costs and put accountants and MBA with absolutely no love
> for the medium in charge.
>
> These people are absolutely clueless.
>
> - Al
> http://www.carnali.com
>
You know what? I have to disagree with you slightly. I DID when I heard the rumors think this could be interesting, I did think it. Now also remember he was taking over for a man who had been in that seat for 20 years plus and he had time to develop his act. There was an implicit expectation that whoever replaced Stern would hit the ground running and that could not happen because:

A. Howard Stern had 20 years to get up to speed.
B. You're talking about someone without radio experience just a lot of opinions and a larger tha life personality.

As someone who listened to Howard when he first made the move from WNBC to krock and listened to him develop through syndicatcion first with only WYSP and on, I can tell you that Howard was not "Howard Stern" for that first few years. Im not saying that given the time DLR could become as huge a pehenom or anything of the sort but he has not even been on a month and he's re inventing that morning show as he goes as anyone would have to. The problem is he's re inventing that timeslot from where it was while essentially learning to do radio, I dont know that this was the place to break a new talent regardless of how compelling his personality seemed. The bottom line is DLR needs time like ANY show replacing Howard would but the problem is that companies seem to be less and less patient with allowing talent time to nurture, mature, take root.. We shall see where this goes and as fashioable as it seems to be to bash this show on these boards I think that Ive made a fair assessment of the situation. Now all we can do is wait. Remember how no one had faith in Conan that first couple of years following Letterman and now he is arguably the best late night talent there is. Then again I could be full of it becasue I have Sirius and mostly listen to Howard in the mroning if Im up that early
 
> The whole David Lee Roth incident shows just how far radio
> has fallen.

> I don't think there was a person on this board that believed
> that Roth would make a good talk show host but the "experts"
> apparently did. With people like that running radio it's no
> wonder radio is in the state that it's in. The problem
> began when the big corporations saw the success of radio in
> the 80's and thought that they could buy into the cash cow.
> They paid too much money for most of the stations, had to
> load the programming up with commercials to cover their
> costs and put accountants and MBA with absolutely no love
> for the medium in charge.
>
> These people are absolutely clueless.
>
> - Al
> http://www.carnali.com

Judging from Tuesday's dissolution of 2 television networks (into a new one that'll premiere in the Fall), the fact that there's more diversification in programming right now from satellite radio, and the fact that "corporate players" appear to only be interested in acquiring...but not nurturing...most existing radio stations, the above information should come as NO SURPRISE!

The moment the stockholders begin to receive a lower return from their investments and start selling off their shares, "the big boys" might seriously consider paying more attention to the programming on the stations they've recently acquired?

Then again...maybe ALL THE BIG BOYS will have to DIE first until "the next radio generation" can come in, clean house, and attempt to try something new????? Or in certain situations....work with formulas and formats that might cost a little more at the beginning, but actually realize a LARGER PROFIT in the end???

argytunes
 
> A little discord in NYC, according to the New York Daily
> News.
>
http:> //www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/385157p-326862c.html
>
>
>
> Come on Nik, fill us in with what you hear.
>
I would like to be the first to welcome back hutch to boston
 
Re: DLr is a fine humanitarian, that's my story and im sticking to it!

> yea, yea. keep stroking the corporate radio c**k. roth is
> one of the worst
> hirings in this business ever and you keep spinning this
> 'nice guy' bs to the dummies. you're acting like one of
> hollander's lapboys. same goes for marshall who was a
> roth-hater when he wore the waaf uniform. show some respect
> and grow some balls, dudes. stop being corproate radio
> (BLEEP).
>

I never hated on DLR. Not once. I said he's a great guest, and not a good host.

I want for him to be great, but know he's not.

Here's a question? How great was your first month in radio?

You need to calm down.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by neanderpol on 01/25/06 05:35 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Perspective.

Remember how no one had faith in Conan that first couple of years following Letterman and now he is arguably the best late night talent there is. Then again I could be full of it becasue I have Sirius and mostly listen to Howard in the mroning if Im up that early
-----------------

I'm betting on that last one you said. ;-) Seriously though I see your point. But Conan had something that Roth doesn't. It's called Potential. I just don't see it in him. I listened this morning. I've heard about the Nightmare situation over at K-Rock. Those people are already close to throwing DLR through the Window.

The first day on the air he said there were 24 letters in the Alphabet. This morning He said something to the effect that "The Alphabet is the same no matter how things are spelled out. He then says all his favorite Porn is written with the same letters as the Bible." THE GUY IS A COMPLETE IDIOT! Every time I tune in he's talking about the Alphabet. As if it can't get any worse.... This morning I listened to him talk about "RED BULL" Sports drinks for 45 Minutes until I couldn't take it anymore. As if he isn't bad enough, he feels the need to keep a constant Music Bed under the show. I wanted to Bust My Speakers.

I can understand your point about allowing him to develop into something. Unfortunately I only envision him developing into an even bigger A-hole. CBS already realizes their mistake. He'll be lucky if he's still allowed in the building by Summertime.


John <P ID="signature">______________
Awsome Voiceovers for your station.
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Re: Conan

> Remember how no one had faith in Conan that first couple of
> years following Letterman and now he is arguably the best
> late night talent there is. Then again I could be full of it
> becasue I have Sirius and mostly listen to Howard in the
> mroning if Im up that early
> -----------------
>
> I'm betting on that last one you said. ;-) Seriously
> though I see your point. But Conan had something that Roth
> doesn't. It's called Potential. I just don't see it in him.
> I listened this morning. I've heard about the Nightmare
> situation over at K-Rock. Those people are already close to
> throwing DLR through the Window.
>
> The first day on the air he said there were 24 letters in
> the Alphabet. This morning He said something to the effect
> that "The Alphabet is the same no matter how things are
> spelled out. He then says all his favorite Porn is written
> with the same letters as the Bible." THE GUY IS A COMPLETE
> IDIOT! Every time I tune in he's talking about the Alphabet.
> As if it can't get any worse.... This morning I listened to
> him talk about "RED BULL" Sports drinks for 45 Minutes until
> I couldn't take it anymore. As if he isn't bad enough, he
> feels the need to keep a constant Music Bed under the show.
> I wanted to Bust My Speakers.
>
> I can understand your point about allowing him to develop
> into something. Unfortunately I only envision him developing
> into an even bigger A-hole. CBS already realizes their
> mistake. He'll be lucky if he's still allowed in the
> building by Summertime.
>
>
> John
>


Wasn't Conan on a week to week or month to month contract when he first started? How many years did DLR sign for?
 
"How great was my first month in radio?"

>
> Here's a question? How great was your first month in radio?
>
> You need to calm down.


I wasn't SYNDICATED TO HALF THE FRIGGIN COUNTRY MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and touted as the replacement to (love him or hate him) a man who singlehandedly re-invented the medium as we know it when I WAS ON THE RADIO THE FIRST MONTH OF MY CAREER.

I don't care WHO he was or HOW successful he was doing it. Radio is a very specialized talent and it is testimony to the suits with no stones in their little boy network that makes catastophes like DLR happen. There is no one with courage or vision left in the upper reaches of the business anymore. The age of hiring talent and letting TALENT lead the way are over. It's all about flash over substance. Sales over programming. Quick cash rather than long term cash flow. Those of us who witnessed or were lucky enough to BE talent that was able to grow and become well-paid and successful BASED ON TALENT ALONE are over. It's all MILLI VANILLI behind the microphone now. It's terrible. We can all look back on the "golden age" of radio as being BEFORE DLR.
 
"Grow some balls"? YOU FIRST!

> > OOOOOOOOH NNNNNNOOOOOO Im not walking into THAT trap, I'll
>
> > just say there were 20 palm trees in the building, two in
> > the studio, now they're gone. Dave's nice to ME, and
> that's
> > all I know. As a rule I just stay out of EVERYBODY's way
> in
> > that building!
> >
> > LOl
> >
>
> yea, yea. keep stroking the corporate radio c**k. roth is
> one of the worst
> hirings in this business ever and you keep spinning this
> 'nice guy' bs to the dummies. you're acting like one of
> hollander's lapboys. same goes for marshall who was a
> roth-hater when he wore the waaf uniform. show some respect
> and grow some balls, dudes. stop being corproate radio
> (BLEEP).
>
Dear radioDOUCHE!

Did you even read what I wrote? no, you're a fricking dope! Corproate c*ck? I just SAID I have sirius and I listen to Stern in a later post, I SAID DLR is nice to ME that's all I can speak to since the point of the newspaper story was how difficult he is to work with etc. I can only speak for myself and my very limited exposure to the guy. I dont work with him and someone said "come on Nik give us the real scoop". Grow some balls? who the hell are YOU? you're hiding behind some screen name, nobody knows who you are (which appears to be part of your frustration) you're sitting here bad mouthing the guy's show, Paul and I BOTH WORK FOR CBS, we post under our own names, and you're saying "grow some balls"? why because im not like a parrot who just repeats YOUR OPINION?... Yeah I have no balls because I dont bad mouth the guy who I work in the same building as, WHO HASN'T EVEN BEEN ON THE AIR A FULL MONTH YET!... Shut up ya nobody!. I said I listen to Stern, which says how I feel about the DLR show.

Grow up ass!.
 
DLR is taking jobs from guys like ME!

> I wasn't SYNDICATED TO HALF THE FRIGGIN COUNTRY MAKING
> MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and touted as the replacement to (love
> him or hate him) a man who singlehandedly re-invented the
> medium as we know it when I WAS ON THE RADIO THE FIRST MONTH
> OF MY CAREER.
>
> I don't care WHO he was or HOW successful he was doing it.
> Radio is a very specialized talent and it is testimony to
> the suits with no stones in their little boy network that
> makes catastophes like DLR happen. There is no one with
> courage or vision left in the upper reaches of the business
> anymore. The age of hiring talent and letting TALENT lead
> the way are over. It's all about flash over substance.
> Sales over programming. Quick cash rather than long term
> cash flow. Those of us who witnessed or were lucky enough
> to BE talent that was able to grow and become well-paid and
> successful BASED ON TALENT ALONE are over. It's all MILLI
> VANILLI behind the microphone now. It's terrible. We can
> all look back on the "golden age" of radio as being BEFORE
> DLR.

I totally understand what you're saying.

Hell...there are those who believe that if WBCN were allowed to put their own local-based morning show on, I'd not have to make the decision to leave Boston soon. I'd be able to stay here in the market, and contribute.

But...as it stands now. DLR is taking local jobs away from probably two or three individuals who could be manning mornings in 6 different markets.

I don't know what the thinking was. Someone higher up than me will be accountable, or enjoy the success if it works.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the guy's working without a net...and he's learning on the job. You can't blame the guy for the decisions of his bosses to put him on in a bunch of cities at once.

They knew he was going to be doing this. He should've been doing practice shows. Which I'm sure he had the opportunity to do, and I'm not sure he took advantage of it.
 
Re: DLR is taking jobs from guys like ME!

> But...as it stands now. DLR is taking local jobs away from
> probably two or three individuals who could be manning
> mornings in 6 different markets.

Do note that all DLR markets right now were running Stern, so it's not as if there was too much local interaction before 1/3/06. But when Roth's show blows up, which it almost certainly will, CBS Radio will have a second chance. But will they place another syndicated show on, or citing this experience, go local in the larger markets?

> They knew he was going to be doing this. He should've been
> doing practice shows. Which I'm sure he had the opportunity
> to do, and I'm not sure he took advantage of it.

He actually was doing them. He was using the studio for WCBS-FM, which clearly wasn't in use at the time.
 
Re: DLR is taking jobs from guys like ME!

> Do note that all DLR markets right now were running Stern,
> so it's not as if there was too much local interaction
> before 1/3/06. But when Roth's show blows up, which it
> almost certainly will, CBS Radio will have a second chance.
> But will they place another syndicated show on, or citing
> this experience, go local in the larger markets?

I hear nothing but good things about Rover. I wouldn't be surprised if they just expand his markets.

Funny...but to a man, every CEO of every broadcasting company claimed the way to beat satellite radio was to be "live and local".

And yet Bob& Tom, Severin, Lex & Terry, Don & Mike, Hannity, insert syndicated personality here, all seem to be picking up affiliates


> > They knew he was going to be doing this. He should've been
>
> > doing practice shows. Which I'm sure he had the
> opportunity
> > to do, and I'm not sure he took advantage of it.
>
> He actually was doing them. He was using the studio for
> WCBS-FM, which clearly wasn't in use at the time.

I stand corrected. My apologies.
 
Re: DLR is taking jobs from guys like ME!

> I hear nothing but good things about Rover. I wouldn't be
> surprised if they just expand his markets.

What I've heard of his show is good as well. Carolla's show is apparently growing an audience as well, but time zones will limit the expansion of his audience. I would certainly not be surprised if Rover was syndicated by CBS Radio into Boston.
 
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