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Daytime AM Bermuda Bandscan
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cd637299
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June 28, 2005 from West Whale Bay, Bermuda:
Equipment was Superadio II + Superadio III + Select-a-Tenna on batteries.
(Copy-&-paste format did not make columns here...goes like so:
FREQ/CALL/CITY/STATE or COUNTRY/STRENGTH (scale of 1-10)
PART 1:
530 .... .................. Turks/Caicos Isl 4
555 ZIZ* Basseterre St. Kitts 2
560 WQAM Miami FL 1
570 WMCA New York NY 4
580 WKAQ San Juan Puerto Rico 2
620 ?? Newark? NJ? 1
630 WPRO Providence RI 1
640 WWJZ Mount Holly NJ 4
660 WFAN New York NY 4
670 WVNS Claremont VA 1
" WWFE Miami FL 1
680 WRKO Boston MA 1
" WAPA? San Juan? Puerto Rico? 2
710 WOR New York NY 4
770 WABC* New York NY 4
790 WNIS Norfolk VA 3
810 (unidentified Spanish.....WKVM San Juan maybe?) 1
820 WNYC New York NY 3
850 WTAR Norfolk VA 5
" WFTL W. Palm Beach FL 1
870 (unidentified Spanish.....WVOZ San Juan maybe?) 1
880 WCBS New York NY 4
890 CM-- Santiago de Cuba Cuba 2
900 W--- Georgetown DE 2
940 WINZ Miami FL 1
950 WPEN Philadelphia PA 1
990 WNTP Philadelphia PA 2
1010 WINS New York NY 4
1020 unID Gospel format, was told it could be NJ
PART 2:
1030 WBZ Boston MA 2
1050 WEPN New York NY 1
1060 KYW Philadelphia PA 1
1080 WTIC Hartford CT 1
1090 (image from a local Bermuda station)
1100 WHLI Hempstead NY 2
1120 (image from local Bermuda station?)
1130 WBBR New York NY 2
1160 VSB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1190 WLIB New York NY 2
1230 ZFB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1280 VSB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1330 (unID Spanish, not parallel RVC 530...MA maybe?) 1
1340 ZBM (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1410 (unID "Newstalk 1410", NOT WPOP in Hartford) 1
1450 VSB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1600 WWRL New York NY 1
1680? (image from AM 1230 in Bermuda)
I was told by somebody in Bermuda that the Bermuda Broadcasting Am stations have shut down now---there were the ZFB & ZBM stations. The VSB's still exist.
Are you or someone going to Bermuda? Please PM me.
Edit: BTW I was told by a member here, that my "unID 1410" was actually a graveyarder, WOND in NJ!! Also another member told me that the 810 was indeed WKVM.
cd
Equipment was Superadio II + Superadio III + Select-a-Tenna on batteries.
(Copy-&-paste format did not make columns here...goes like so:
FREQ/CALL/CITY/STATE or COUNTRY/STRENGTH (scale of 1-10)
PART 1:
530 .... .................. Turks/Caicos Isl 4
555 ZIZ* Basseterre St. Kitts 2
560 WQAM Miami FL 1
570 WMCA New York NY 4
580 WKAQ San Juan Puerto Rico 2
620 ?? Newark? NJ? 1
630 WPRO Providence RI 1
640 WWJZ Mount Holly NJ 4
660 WFAN New York NY 4
670 WVNS Claremont VA 1
" WWFE Miami FL 1
680 WRKO Boston MA 1
" WAPA? San Juan? Puerto Rico? 2
710 WOR New York NY 4
770 WABC* New York NY 4
790 WNIS Norfolk VA 3
810 (unidentified Spanish.....WKVM San Juan maybe?) 1
820 WNYC New York NY 3
850 WTAR Norfolk VA 5
" WFTL W. Palm Beach FL 1
870 (unidentified Spanish.....WVOZ San Juan maybe?) 1
880 WCBS New York NY 4
890 CM-- Santiago de Cuba Cuba 2
900 W--- Georgetown DE 2
940 WINZ Miami FL 1
950 WPEN Philadelphia PA 1
990 WNTP Philadelphia PA 2
1010 WINS New York NY 4
1020 unID Gospel format, was told it could be NJ
PART 2:
1030 WBZ Boston MA 2
1050 WEPN New York NY 1
1060 KYW Philadelphia PA 1
1080 WTIC Hartford CT 1
1090 (image from a local Bermuda station)
1100 WHLI Hempstead NY 2
1120 (image from local Bermuda station?)
1130 WBBR New York NY 2
1160 VSB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1190 WLIB New York NY 2
1230 ZFB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1280 VSB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1330 (unID Spanish, not parallel RVC 530...MA maybe?) 1
1340 ZBM (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1410 (unID "Newstalk 1410", NOT WPOP in Hartford) 1
1450 VSB (LOCAL STATION) BERMUDA 10
1600 WWRL New York NY 1
1680? (image from AM 1230 in Bermuda)
I was told by somebody in Bermuda that the Bermuda Broadcasting Am stations have shut down now---there were the ZFB & ZBM stations. The VSB's still exist.
Are you or someone going to Bermuda? Please PM me.
Edit: BTW I was told by a member here, that my "unID 1410" was actually a graveyarder, WOND in NJ!! Also another member told me that the 810 was indeed WKVM.
cd
A Bermuda node just came online within the Perseus SDR network within the last few weeks. I just connected to this receiver in Bermuda a few minutes ago and was a bit disappointed to find only a few weak signals coming in from 530 to 1700. I have no idea what type of antenna is being used on this node, but clearly cd had much better results than I just did. Threshold audio only on:
1010, 1100, 1130 (the strongest of the bunch) & 1140
Strong locals noted on 1160, 1280 & 1450. No locals noted on 1230 or 1340.
1010, 1100, 1130 (the strongest of the bunch) & 1140
Strong locals noted on 1160, 1280 & 1450. No locals noted on 1230 or 1340.
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cd637299
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kilokat7 said:
How can I access this? And, what in the world was 1140? Miami or San Juan are the only ones that make sense, and I heard neither.
cd
It's a private network made accessible only to Perseus SDR owners, however anyone can access this network by downloading a 30 day evaluation of the Perseus software from here:
http://microtelecom.it/perseus/Perseusv40b.zip
You'll need to configure and open up some ports on your router, a good guide for setting it up can be found here:
http://www.montefusco.com/perseuscs/
And finally, here's a map showing all the remote Perseus nodes across the world. This is a live map showing the current nodes that are up. This changes often. Currently the Bermuda node is offline since it's not showing on the map right this moment:
http://www.microtelecom.it/map/PerseusServers.html
During the winter DX months, it's not uncommon to have about 50 nodes up around the world at any given time.
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cd637299
Guest
kilokat,
I just got a few e-mails from a DXer/ham in Bermuda. He already has invited me to his Perseus; the thing must be his. He was monitoring 1140---mention of San Juan around 0100 UTC.
This should be fun! If it is the same person, he told me he is HDTV ready; I had him be on the lookout for the DT2's in Bangor & NYC, the DT3 in Roanoke, & the new DT4 Atlantic City.
I would be thrilled to listen to 1450 AM Gold Bermuda again, since the owners will not stream live.
cd
I just got a few e-mails from a DXer/ham in Bermuda. He already has invited me to his Perseus; the thing must be his. He was monitoring 1140---mention of San Juan around 0100 UTC.
This should be fun! If it is the same person, he told me he is HDTV ready; I had him be on the lookout for the DT2's in Bangor & NYC, the DT3 in Roanoke, & the new DT4 Atlantic City.
I would be thrilled to listen to 1450 AM Gold Bermuda again, since the owners will not stream live.
cd
Out on Long Island, east of New York City by thirty miles, there was a station on 1290 called WGLI. It was the Island's first full-time Top 40 station.
They ran 5000 watts during the day, and 1000 watts at night, from a three-tower broadcast antenna array, and were quite directional. The primary station they had to protect was WADO 1280 in New Yoirk City. Plus, on the other side of the signal, they had to pull it in from New Haven's WAVZ on 1300.
In fact, WADO purchased WGLI sometime in the Nineties to take them off the air for good so that WADO could cover further east onto Long Island.
The resultant WGLI signal back then was a skinny figure-8, with the littler bloop going north-northwest. They actually reached Stamford Connecticut with that back lobe, across the Long Island Sound and even as far as Nyack NY on a car radio, along the Hudson River.
At night, the nulls were so deep in two directions that you could see their three blinking towers and not receive the station well.
Engineers here would know the actual effective beam better than I, but perhaps 4500 watts of that 5000 was not just going through their city of license (Babylon) with a searing amount of voltage but indeed was aimed like a laser at Bermuda. In other words, the power sent toward Bermuda effectively was more than 4500 nominal watts.
I've heard stories from two different people that WGLI used to get requests from Bermuda, and that they were almost as loud on the daytime dial as the neighboring ZBM-1 on 1235.
They ran 5000 watts during the day, and 1000 watts at night, from a three-tower broadcast antenna array, and were quite directional. The primary station they had to protect was WADO 1280 in New Yoirk City. Plus, on the other side of the signal, they had to pull it in from New Haven's WAVZ on 1300.
In fact, WADO purchased WGLI sometime in the Nineties to take them off the air for good so that WADO could cover further east onto Long Island.
The resultant WGLI signal back then was a skinny figure-8, with the littler bloop going north-northwest. They actually reached Stamford Connecticut with that back lobe, across the Long Island Sound and even as far as Nyack NY on a car radio, along the Hudson River.
At night, the nulls were so deep in two directions that you could see their three blinking towers and not receive the station well.
Engineers here would know the actual effective beam better than I, but perhaps 4500 watts of that 5000 was not just going through their city of license (Babylon) with a searing amount of voltage but indeed was aimed like a laser at Bermuda. In other words, the power sent toward Bermuda effectively was more than 4500 nominal watts.
I've heard stories from two different people that WGLI used to get requests from Bermuda, and that they were almost as loud on the daytime dial as the neighboring ZBM-1 on 1235.
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cd637299
Guest
As the crow flies, NYC is much closer, by about 200 miles. Add to that, they have those ND's on 660/770/880 PLUS the 1010 apparently directing out over the Atlantic....maybe 710 as well (I never heard Miami 710 there). WMCA 570 was decent, even at 5 k.
I maintain the 850 Norfolk had the best of all the daytime mainland signals, although I was able to null it and *barely* hear WFTL when it was called "Live 85".
I frankly was shocked to hear WQAM on 560, again barely....no sign of Philly.
I have a handful of audio clips on mp3....you have to PM me for e-mail info.
cd
I maintain the 850 Norfolk had the best of all the daytime mainland signals, although I was able to null it and *barely* hear WFTL when it was called "Live 85".
I frankly was shocked to hear WQAM on 560, again barely....no sign of Philly.
I have a handful of audio clips on mp3....you have to PM me for e-mail info.
cd
cd637299 said:
I still have the ones you sent me. That was so great to hear the NYC stations so strong that far in the daytime.
Also, I wouldn't have expected to hear 560 WFIL from Philly, as it passes on not too conductive land through New Jersey.
Being that you heard WQAM in Bermuda mid day, that's the same distance from Miami as Long Beach Island at the Jersey shore which means that, in theory, it should also be heard there in the daytime if WFIL can be nulled out enough.
Of course, WGAI would probably be there too but WQAM should be heard in the background.
And when I think of all the times I used to listen for WQAM at night at our shore house in Beach Haven but I never thought about listening for it during the day because I didn't know at the time how far signals could travel on the ocean. If only I knew back then.
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cd637299
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tanner said:
Nope!! But I think that one of our posters caught it quite easily on its night pattern, on a ship going *east* of Bermuda. Either Cyberdad or radioman....sorry, I cannot recall whom.
That post is my list of actual day catches. Anything at night from BDA(which I unfortunately did not spend enough time on), I did not log.
cd
I was that poster last fall. I was crossing the ocean on a cruise a full day East of Bermuda. Both 540 and 740 from Orlando were easily heard at night with my Tecsun PL-606 in the mid-Atlantic. On Bermuda itself at 1PM local, the only two stateside stations I clearly heard with that radio with it's internal loop antenna were WOR-710 and that Comedy station from Norfolk, VA on 850. The Bahamas AM on 1540 was also heard on the backside of their pattern. 660, 770 and 880 were detected, but not listenable at that time. Nighttime reception in the mid-Atlantic 500-700 miles east
Of Bermuda was interesting. I am sure if someone wanted, they could find my post and log from about last November.
Of Bermuda was interesting. I am sure if someone wanted, they could find my post and log from about last November.
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cd637299
Guest
Thank you KR4BD. At 50 kW, WTAR 850 Norfolk has no choice but to shoot out to the east, with all the 850s here in the mainland. I figured that I'd have a shot at WFTL, due to their similar pattern; I think I saw it on radio-locator. I did not hear WEEI at all. WFTL dominated at night at the hotel....I remember hearing a Marlins game (they were the West Palm beach affiliate in 2005).
Hope to go back there someday, but funds won't allow.
cd
Hope to go back there someday, but funds won't allow.
cd
cd637299 said:
Speaking of WFTL they were the strongest night time signal from the lower 48 when I was in Puerto Rico a few years ago.
One station, surprisingly, missing from that daytime bandscan in Bermuda is 50-kw 970 WNYM Hackensack, NJ. It is a three-tower directional that sends its strongest signal down the Hudson River, west of the George Washington Bridge, and out to sea in the direction of Bermuda.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WNYM&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
It is especially surprising since 620 WSNR Jersey City, NJ sends its five tower directional signal from a transmitter site about ten miles away with only 3-kw and it was received Bermuda.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WSNR&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
I wonder if the 970 in Hackensack is interfered with in some way in Bermuda?
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cd637299
Guest
Well, honestly, there was no 970 NJ on the report....nothing was there. They likely were still at the 5k at that time. So was WPEN which was a struggle---There was an upgrade in the works, but I believe someone here at r-i said that the upgrade did not happen then; Wiki I think said the same.
I am sure the 620 was Newark. I only wish I spent more time there to check it out. The local time listening was around 12:15 pm to about 5 pm --- anything else woulda brought skywave & pseudo-daytime-DX.
What really surprised me was NO WOKV 690 in the day, and whatever signal was there at night (I heard Coast to Coast AM), sure was minimal.
cd
I am sure the 620 was Newark. I only wish I spent more time there to check it out. The local time listening was around 12:15 pm to about 5 pm --- anything else woulda brought skywave & pseudo-daytime-DX.
What really surprised me was NO WOKV 690 in the day, and whatever signal was there at night (I heard Coast to Coast AM), sure was minimal.
cd
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