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Dear Star 94

Anyone who reads my posts know that I'm as big an advocate for Star 94 as you'll find. However, they've been suffering in the ratings lately and I've therefore been considering some potential root causes. I perceive a few fairly obvious fundamental problems that need addressing if Star wants to maintain its competitive status in this market.

First things first, the music. I'm a CHR guy through and through, but have no problem whatsoever with Star leaning somewhat upon adult records. Having said that, their current playlist is severely flawed to my eyes. I am simply beyond belief that "I Gotta Feeling" and "Use Somebody" are in power rotation six months after their peaks. I'm sure they call out nicely, but there comes a point when your intuition should tell you to move on and shift these songs to power recurrent category. That point was back in November.

Another thing: if you're going to rely upon Hot AC records, that's fine, but when I hear nothing but Shinedown, The Fray, Nickelback, Daughtry and Rob Thomas day in and day out, it literally starts to lend a depressing, morbid feel to the station. Those songs are excellent with some moderation, but without balancing them out, you risk lulling listeners to sleep or inducing depression. That's where the upbeat CHR records come in. Based on the rotation and recurrent/gold category changes in recent months, I know Star seems intent upon shifting in a HAC direction, but songs from Lady Gaga, Kesha, IYAZ and Jay Sean pick up the pace considerably and test will with audiences young and old...they're letting Q100 and The Beat run wild with those while they stick with nothing but Nickelballads. Who do you honestly think is going to win in that situation? Fine, skip Young Money and Drake if you must, but if you're not going to become a full-fledged Hot AC - which Star still isn't - and if you care about your 18-49 numbers, there's no substantive reason to avoid those former records like the plague.

Airstaff-wise? Cindy & Ray need to focus on making their show pop, with the distinctive and compelling features, topics and guests Bert touts across the street. Nevertheless, I think C&R are a quality show in a very tough competitive position. Heather Branch and Darik are both established and great in their respective dayparts. I personally could do with trashing Seacrest now that he's on from 12-4. It's not a terrible show, but I don't see any real need for keeping it around. Regarding PM Drive, I'm mildly surprised that Darik didn't get bumped up just because he has a slightly more mature delivery, but Chase is clearly a talented, funny guy and capable of developing into a great afternoon jock. I hope he maintains lots of caller interaction and topics. Star's personality advantage is almost by default in some ways, because Cumulus seems to limit Brittany and Johnny O (who, to their credit, both show traces of actual personality trying to peek out from the hyper-management) to liners, song introductions and stupid contests like "Which Bert Show member talked about XYZ this morning?" Yes, I understand the value of promoting your station hallmark (Bert). But when you don't establish any features after 10A that are WORTH touting, you're painting yourself into a corner.

I'm sick of seeing Q100 walk all over Star 94, because Cumulus has extracted almost everything remotely noteworthy or edgy from the station after Bert goes off the air. Star IS a better all-around station, but I feel they need to tweak their musical sound and work tremendously on AM Drive to make a run again. Oh, and can someone please explain why their processing is STILL so heinous? It's actually embarrassing. I'm not an engineering expert, but I certainly know bad when I hear it. How can anyone think that sounds remotely acceptable?
 
Very insightful, Music Man.

The processing should be the easiest thing to fix, and I can't figure out why it's been this bad for this long. As for Seacrest, they might still be under contract. With the addition of Chase to the fulltime lineup, they really don't need to paying whatever they're paying for Seacrest--and I'm sure it's very low--once his contract runs out.
 
TheMusicMan said:
I'm a CHR guy through and through, but have no problem whatsoever with Star leaning somewhat upon adult records. Having said that, their current playlist is severely flawed to my eyes. I am simply beyond belief that "I Gotta Feeling" and "Use Somebody" are in power rotation six months after their peaks. I'm sure they call out nicely, but there comes a point when your intuition should tell you to move on and shift these songs to power recurrent category. That point was back in November.

You should CC this to the PD of WRAL in Raleigh. They still play "Black Horse And The Cherry Tree," among others, every day as if it were a current.
 
Star 94 is going back to their hot ac / ac roots but the problem seems to be engaging in more music. They seem to be playing like the first person said all the Daughtry/The Fray type songs every hour at least two times an hour. This causes the person who listens to get very depressed and turns the station to a more upbeat flowing station such as Q100. Although I would like to make a note that Darik At Night is a fantastic jock and it seems to me that the night show is a little more upbeat then the rest of the day-parts. I hear more real Top40 stuck in during his show which is why he is number one at nights in the Atlanta market. Also his voice and phoners really fit his show. Everything flows perfectly and naturally. With this being said Star94 would top the Atlanta Market if it would be less conservative and play more 95.5 the beat music with a dash of regular top 40 like KISSFM does in L.A. We really need a true TOP 40 Station in Atlanta. The old songs and depressing songs need to be plugged with something more bright. Trust me if you do this you will see your numbers climb I promise you this. Atlanta is hungry for an all TOP40/HIPHOP/DANCE station like KISSFM. Remember its not always about what the women want its about the people/everyone.
 
bearevolutionary said:
Star 94 is going back to their hot ac / ac roots but the problem seems to be engaging in more music. They seem to be playing like the first person said all the Daughtry/The Fray type songs every hour at least two times an hour. This causes the person who listens to get very depressed and turns the station to a more upbeat flowing station such as Q100. Although I would like to make a note that Darik At Night is a fantastic jock and it seems to me that the night show is a little more upbeat then the rest of the day-parts. I hear more real Top40 stuck in during his show which is why he is number one at nights in the Atlanta market. Also his voice and phoners really fit his show. Everything flows perfectly and naturally. With this being said Star94 would top the Atlanta Market if it would be less conservative and play more 95.5 the beat music with a dash of regular top 40 like KISSFM does in L.A. We really need a true TOP 40 Station in Atlanta. The old songs and depressing songs need to be plugged with something more bright. Trust me if you do this you will see your numbers climb I promise you this. Atlanta is hungry for an all TOP40/HIPHOP/DANCE station like KISSFM. Remember its not always about what the women want its about the people/everyone.

Thank you, Darik. Good hearing from you.
 
TheMusicMan said:
Oh, and can someone please explain why their processing is STILL so heinous? It's actually embarrassing. I'm not an engineering expert, but I certainly know bad when I hear it. How can anyone think that sounds remotely acceptable?

I agree. It's un-listenable.
 
RoddyFreeman said:
Very insightful, Music Man.

The processing should be the easiest thing to fix, and I can't figure out why it's been this bad for this long. As for Seacrest, they might still be under contract. With the addition of Chase to the fulltime lineup, they really don't need to paying whatever they're paying for Seacrest--and I'm sure it's very low--once his contract runs out.
I think they took your advice on the processing, have you listened today?
 
Just to clarify:

Jonathan (bearevolutionary) is a former intern of mine. While I appreciate his enthusiasm and loyalty, I feel embarrassed that he would take it for granted that I would be pleased with his comments. Jonathan, please refrain from discussing me in your opinions. It's not necessary to kiss my behind. I ask that as a personal favor.

Roddy, couldn't you tell that his comments weren't mine? I think you know I am more articulate than that(no offense, Jonathan)

Darik
 
darik said:
Just to clarify:

Jonathan (bearevolutionary) is a former intern of mine. While I appreciate his enthusiasm and loyalty, I feel embarrassed that he would take it for granted that I would be pleased with his comments. Jonathan, please refrain from discussing me in your opinions. It's not necessary to kiss my behind. I ask that as a personal favor.

Roddy, couldn't you tell that his comments weren't mine? I think you know I am more articulate than that(no offense, Jonathan)

Darik

Darik, I was trying to be funny, but apparently I wasn't very successful. Believe me, I never thought it was you.
 
When 94Q became Star 94 it did so as a HOT AC. Never quite understood the logic as 94Q had been HOT AC for a number of years, was successful and had great heritage. The identity switch did not reap the rewards imagined by whomever dreamed it up. When Tony Novia later signed on as PD there were no plans to take the station CHR. It was not until Power99 bowed out of the format leaving a wide hole in the market that the decision was made to move Star in a more CHR direction, but not entirely. The move was hugely successful, and because they had no CHR competition, they became the de-facto CHR for Atlanta without actually making a total evolution to the format, and B was such a mess there were no significant losses to Star's upper end. Star immediately lost its bottom end when WBTS signed on and suffered further erosion in younger demos when Q100 hit the air.

The reason I bring this up is the failure of the recent attempt to move star younger while holding onto their core. When you have no competition it's easy to be all things to all people. When you're competing with multiple stations, laser targeted on a specific demo, and serving it well, you're not going to pull those listeners into your universe. Different times, different market profile, same strategy, not same results. Retreating from a fight they cannot possibly win and returning to their roots is the practical move. And, when you're getting your ass kicked on the upper end by a statiion that clearly does not deserve the success they're now enjoying (B, still a mess) it's time to draw a target on them and reclaim the throne. I am confident the braintrust at Star will do just that. If Star does it right, they'll settle into the mid 4's 12+ and own adults.
 
I never understood the rebranding of 94Q-->Star 94 either. Reminds me of Peach-->Lite.

Star 94 did have the CHR market all to themselves between the 1992 Power 99-->99X flip and the 1999 WNGC-->The Beat flip. But they never made a name for themselves in it the way Power 99 or Z-93 or Quixie did. Given the Quixie heritage, coupled with a CHR monopoly from 1992 to 1999, there's almost no excuse for that.

I don't know if I would call B98.5 a mess--a lot of people would love a mess with those ratings. I would like to also ask all the Cox fanboys to hold their fire before they clog up this thread.

Although, I have quit listening to B98.5 (except on the all-80s weekends), because of the newer trending of their playlist (perhaps to try and compete with Star head-on, or deciding that there's more money in hot AC than soft AC). Cox has been tinkering with both B98.5 and River, taking B98.5 in a more contemporary (but not hotter) direction, and taking River more AOR/classic rock. River is sounding better as a result.

Getting off topic, River is probably doing that to kill off Rock100.5, which has thinned out the alt ("quality") rock and added more classic rock. No return of the 80s hair that started them off with a bang, though.
 
jabba17 said:
Getting off topic, River is probably doing that to kill off Rock100.5, which has thinned out the alt ("quality") rock and added more classic rock. No return of the 80s hair that started them off with a bang, though.

I hope you are wrong. 100.5 reminds me of the old 96 Rock and is one of my presets.
 
jabba17 said:
Star 94 did have the CHR market all to themselves between the 1992 Power 99-->99X flip and the 1999 WNGC-->The Beat flip. But they never made a name for themselves in it the way Power 99 or Z-93 or Quixie did. Given the Quixie heritage, coupled with a CHR monopoly from 1992 to 1999, there's almost no excuse for that.

Good point you make. I remember back in 1999, to show how the radio landscape has changed, Star 94 was at the top of the Atlanta Radio ratings, tied with V-103 and WSB-AM. Then stations like Q100, 95.5 The Beat came along, and as they say, the rest is history.

The current ratings speak for themselves.
 
Anyone hear Star TODAY?! Now their bass is back up to the MAX! Still hardly listenable. It now has a over-powered sound to where it slightly cuts in and out.....wow! (too funny)
 
bearevolutionary said:
Star 94 is going back to their hot ac / ac roots but the problem seems to be engaging in more music. They seem to be playing like the first person said all the Daughtry/The Fray type songs every hour at least two times an hour. This causes the person who listens to get very depressed and turns the station to a more upbeat flowing station such as Q100. Although I would like to make a note that Darik At Night is a fantastic jock and it seems to me that the night show is a little more upbeat then the rest of the day-parts. I hear more real Top40 stuck in during his show which is why he is number one at nights in the Atlanta market. Also his voice and phoners really fit his show. Everything flows perfectly and naturally. With this being said Star94 would top the Atlanta Market if it would be less conservative and play more 95.5 the beat music with a dash of regular top 40 like KISSFM does in L.A. We really need a true TOP 40 Station in Atlanta. The old songs and depressing songs need to be plugged with something more bright. Trust me if you do this you will see your numbers climb I promise you this. Atlanta is hungry for an all TOP40/HIPHOP/DANCE station like KISSFM. Remember its not always about what the women want its about the people/everyone.


This is funny on many different levels

What depressing about Star, is it's dead, no life, no energy, nothin. Everything sounds forced, and the music is confused. Lookin at their logs on mediabase it does look like more Hot Ac now but then they go and play KE$ha- Tic Tok. Theyve lost the CHR battle, go back to your roots! But do it 100%. Your not plugged in to 18-34's anymore, and haven't been for years.

#1 at night? So V103, Hot 107.9 The Beat, Q100 and Kicks ahead of them among many others is just a misprint? Their night show sounds forced and outta touch. Im not hearing any energy at all, just another run of the mill show. Listen to Hot or Q , V or even the Beat at night. Thats energy, thats natural, thats interaction.

If Atlanta was hungry for a Dance Top 40 station, then the Groove would go all the way Dance Top 40, although the jury's still out on the Groove

Overall Star just gave up, no energy, no street presents and didn't stick to their roots. Now they've sunk and the only thing going for them is the company that owns them has deep pockets
 
secondchoice said:
jabba17 said:
Getting off topic, River is probably doing that to kill off Rock100.5, which has thinned out the alt ("quality") rock and added more classic rock. No return of the 80s hair that started them off with a bang, though.

I hope you are wrong. 100.5 reminds me of the old 96 Rock and is one of my presets.
I hope so too. Rock100.5 IMHO made a mistake by adding so much alt and going after Dave (and competing with sister [email protected], for crying out loud!). Their ratings proved it. I'm glad they are going back in a traditional AOR direction--someone needs to keep River honest. Let's hope it's not too little too late.
 
When 94Q was rebranded as Star 94. the station had just retired its GM of nearly 30 years (Jerry Blum) and Clarke brown had just moved into the corner office. He explained at the time of the change that there had been three "new 94Q" formats in the previous 18 months and the research showed that the listeners didn't believe it.

In my opinion, if you're rebranding then you should be doing something different, but in this case Star 94 was conceived to resurrect the old 94Q listener. Well what better way to resurrect a 94Q listener than calling call it, um, 94Q?!?

Of course, they also brought back Jazz Flavors and that led to the station doing a total faceplant the first 18 months. You can go off the board and do something boutique once a week if you're the top dog, but breaking format every night with the anemic ratings Star had then was suicide.


jabba17 said:
I never understood the rebranding of 94Q-->Star 94 either. Reminds me of Peach-->Lite.

Star 94 did have the CHR market all to themselves between the 1992 Power 99-->99X flip and the 1999 WNGC-->The Beat flip. But they never made a name for themselves in it the way Power 99 or Z-93 or Quixie did. Given the Quixie heritage, coupled with a CHR monopoly from 1992 to 1999, there's almost no excuse for that.

I don't know if I would call B98.5 a mess--a lot of people would love a mess with those ratings. I would like to also ask all the Cox fanboys to hold their fire before they clog up this thread.

Although, I have quit listening to B98.5 (except on the all-80s weekends), because of the newer trending of their playlist (perhaps to try and compete with Star head-on, or deciding that there's more money in hot AC than soft AC). Cox has been tinkering with both B98.5 and River, taking B98.5 in a more contemporary (but not hotter) direction, and taking River more AOR/classic rock. River is sounding better as a result.

Getting off topic, River is probably doing that to kill off Rock100.5, which has thinned out the alt ("quality") rock and added more classic rock. No return of the 80s hair that started them off with a bang, though.
 
bclark71. said:
When 94Q was rebranded as Star 94. the station had just retired its GM of nearly 30 years (Jerry Blum) and Clarke brown had just moved into the corner office. He explained at the time of the change that there had been three "new 94Q" formats in the previous 18 months and the research showed that the listeners didn't believe it.

In my opinion, if you're rebranding then you should be doing something different, but in this case Star 94 was conceived to resurrect the old 94Q listener. Well what better way to resurrect a 94Q listener than calling call it, um, 94Q?!?

Of course, they also brought back Jazz Flavors and that led to the station doing a total faceplant the first 18 months. You can go off the board and do something boutique once a week if you're the top dog, but breaking format every night with the anemic ratings Star had then was suicide.


jabba17 said:
I never understood the rebranding of 94Q-->Star 94 either. Reminds me of Peach-->Lite.

Star 94 did have the CHR market all to themselves between the 1992 Power 99-->99X flip and the 1999 WNGC-->The Beat flip. But they never made a name for themselves in it the way Power 99 or Z-93 or Quixie did. Given the Quixie heritage, coupled with a CHR monopoly from 1992 to 1999, there's almost no excuse for that.

I don't know if I would call B98.5 a mess--a lot of people would love a mess with those ratings. I would like to also ask all the Cox fanboys to hold their fire before they clog up this thread.

Although, I have quit listening to B98.5 (except on the all-80s weekends), because of the newer trending of their playlist (perhaps to try and compete with Star head-on, or deciding that there's more money in hot AC than soft AC). Cox has been tinkering with both B98.5 and River, taking B98.5 in a more contemporary (but not hotter) direction, and taking River more AOR/classic rock. River is sounding better as a result.

Getting off topic, River is probably doing that to kill off Rock100.5, which has thinned out the alt ("quality") rock and added more classic rock. No return of the 80s hair that started them off with a bang, though.

Well...that's not really true. I was there. When Clarke came in, and the station was rebranded, Jazz Flavours went out the window. Mornings were different, though, with the short-lived Murphy and McKeever--eventually Steve and Vikki. But, when Clarke came in, all the old 94Q studff was jettisoned. Including me! HAHAHA! True, though....
 
I still think Cumulus needs to buy Star 94 from Lincoln, and merge the two CHR operations (Star 94 and Q100) into one station--94Q. ;D
 
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