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Death of radio coming soon?

G

gsnowden

Guest
Considering all the new technology (ipods, satellite, mp3's, etc.) how much longer could radio really last?

Satellite now offers weather and traffic for over 20 cities at the push of a button. There's no waiting through unwanted songs or spots or promos we don't care about.

So given that, what does radio really have to offer now a days?

I am from the younger generation and have always had a passion for radio; but almost all of my friends (in early 20's) never even listen anymore. It's all about the ipod or satellite (mostly ipod).

Do you think it's safe to say that 10 years from now radio will be the same as a cassette today?
 
> Considering all the new technology (ipods, satellite, mp3's,
> etc.) how much longer could radio really last?
>
> Satellite now offers weather and traffic for over 20 cities
> at the push of a button. There's no waiting through
> unwanted songs or spots or promos we don't care about.
>
> So given that, what does radio really have to offer now a
> days?
>
> I am from the younger generation and have always had a
> passion for radio; but almost all of my friends (in early
> 20's) never even listen anymore. It's all about the ipod or
> satellite (mostly ipod).
>
> Do you think it's safe to say that 10 years from now radio
> will be the same as a cassette today?
>
Well you know all of those are fine and dandy, and they are great to listen to!
But here is what Satallite radio doesn't offer anyone and that Local radio stations do offer:

1. Local Coverage
2. Local Traffic Reports
3. Live Converage of breaking news or Live events
And contestes.. Can Serris and XM offer that? NO! Of course not becasue they are not in tuned with the states at all! All they offer is music, news around the world and the nation and some other speical programming. They don't touch on local events, local news or anything like that!
So Radio in the sense well never die becasue it is FREE after all, and you don;t have to pay for it even when HD Radio catches on! ( Interesting huh?)
And IPODS are great but again can an IPOD do everything that I mentioned? NO!
So radio well live on for yrs to come..
<P ID="signature">______________
From Radioman, the dude that knows most about radio and tries to think he does!</P>
 
I agree that free radio is not going anywhere. However, I think we will see a shift to more specialized programing. Also Sirius does offer local traffice for the top 20 markets now, with plans to expand that to the top 50 markets, so that kind of kills that theory.


> > Considering all the new technology (ipods, satellite,
> mp3's,
> > etc.) how much longer could radio really last?
> >
> > Satellite now offers weather and traffic for over 20
> cities
> > at the push of a button. There's no waiting through
> > unwanted songs or spots or promos we don't care about.
> >
> > So given that, what does radio really have to offer now a
> > days?
> >
> > I am from the younger generation and have always had a
> > passion for radio; but almost all of my friends (in early
> > 20's) never even listen anymore. It's all about the ipod
> or
> > satellite (mostly ipod).
> >
> > Do you think it's safe to say that 10 years from now radio
>
> > will be the same as a cassette today?
> >
> Well you know all of those are fine and dandy, and they are
> great to listen to!
> But here is what Satallite radio doesn't offer anyone and
> that Local radio stations do offer:
>
> 1. Local Coverage
> 2. Local Traffic Reports
> 3. Live Converage of breaking news or Live events
> And contestes.. Can Serris and XM offer that? NO! Of course
> not becasue they are not in tuned with the states at all!
> All they offer is music, news around the world and the
> nation and some other speical programming. They don't touch
> on local events, local news or anything like that!
> So Radio in the sense well never die becasue it is FREE
> after all, and you don;t have to pay for it even when HD
> Radio catches on! ( Interesting huh?)
> And IPODS are great but again can an IPOD do everything that
> I mentioned? NO!
> So radio well live on for yrs to come..
>
 
Absolutely. However what may seem strange is that I believe that FM will go quicker than AM. Although XM and Sirius will continue to provide more coverage of major markets with more news and traffic info, the AM dial will still be necessary for local programming--including local talk shows. AM still does have some interesting programming with some point. The FM sounds pretty much the same in every market and has absolutely nothing that can't be duplicated on XM or Sirius (100 times better), especially since all NPR programming is available on XM. All of the owners of the FM stations have very HARD times ahead of them and many will go out of business!!

20-30 years down the road FM radio will be as obsolete as 8 tracks.

ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. FREE RADIO IS JUST THAT, FREE.



> I agree that free radio is not going anywhere. However, I
> think we will see a shift to more specialized programing.
> Also Sirius does offer local traffice for the top 20 markets
> now, with plans to expand that to the top 50 markets, so
> that kind of kills that theory.
>
>
> > > Considering all the new technology (ipods, satellite,
> > mp3's,
> > > etc.) how much longer could radio really last?
> > >
> > > Satellite now offers weather and traffic for over 20
> > cities
> > > at the push of a button. There's no waiting through
> > > unwanted songs or spots or promos we don't care about.
>
> > >
> > > So given that, what does radio really have to offer now
> a
> > > days?
> > >
> > > I am from the younger generation and have always had a
> > > passion for radio; but almost all of my friends (in
> early
> > > 20's) never even listen anymore. It's all about the
> ipod
> > or
> > > satellite (mostly ipod).
> > >
> > > Do you think it's safe to say that 10 years from now
> radio
> >
> > > will be the same as a cassette today?
> > >
> > Well you know all of those are fine and dandy, and they
> are
> > great to listen to!
> > But here is what Satallite radio doesn't offer anyone and
> > that Local radio stations do offer:
> >
> > 1. Local Coverage
> > 2. Local Traffic Reports
> > 3. Live Converage of breaking news or Live events
> > And contestes.. Can Serris and XM offer that? NO! Of
> course
> > not becasue they are not in tuned with the states at all!
> > All they offer is music, news around the world and the
> > nation and some other speical programming. They don't
> touch
> > on local events, local news or anything like that!
> > So Radio in the sense well never die becasue it is FREE
> > after all, and you don;t have to pay for it even when HD
> > Radio catches on! ( Interesting huh?)
> > And IPODS are great but again can an IPOD do everything
> that
> > I mentioned? NO!
> > So radio well live on for yrs to come..
> >
>
 
> I agree that free radio is not going anywhere. However, I
> think we will see a shift to more specialized programing.
> Also Sirius does offer local traffice for the top 20 markets
> now, with plans to expand that to the top 50 markets, so
> that kind of kills that theory.
>
>

Actually I dont' think so.. becasue for one, singers are not dumb, they know they can make money from both Satallite and Radio. I don't think there well be any specialized programming on any radio stations anytime soon. I mean look at it radio stations can have tons of programs on it, like countdown shows, Dr Demento for one. Can satallite do that? Would they do that? No, becasue Satallite radio isn't interested in doing things like that..
Even though they would do traffic reports, it won't be the same anyways.
That is why Denver Radio stations have local traffic reports becasue they are local and they know Denver! Does both Xm and Sirius know Denver at all? Heck no, they have no clue what Denver is like at all! So yes free radio(local radio) well still be around becasue of that.<P ID="signature">______________
From Radioman, the dude that knows most about radio and tries to think he does!</P>
 
Are you drinking absinthe? You're hallucinating massively, man. Is there a doctor in the house?!

> Actually I dont' think so.. becasue for one, singers are not
> dumb, they know they can make money from both Satallite and
> Radio.

Newsflash: Satellite radio is...RADIO!

> I don't think there well be any specialized
> programming on any radio stations anytime soon. I mean look
> at it radio stations can have tons of programs on it, like
> countdown shows, Dr Demento for one. Can satallite do that?

XM has carried Doctor Demento. More to the point, I don't believe the carriage of a show such as Doctor Demento is old-style radio's savior.

Hey! There IS a doctor in the house. Too bad it's Doctor Demento.


> Would they do that? No, becasue Satallite radio isn't
> interested in doing things like that..

It's spelled "satellite."

> Even though they would do traffic reports, it won't be the
> same anyways.

WTF? Gawd, you are a hoot!

> That is why Denver Radio stations have local traffic reports
> becasue they are local and they know Denver! Does both Xm
> and Sirius know Denver at all? Heck no, they have no clue
> what Denver is like at all!

You should read the bios of many of the traffic people on the birds. They have worked all over the country. Including *gasp* DENVER!

It must be awfully cozy in that cave of yours.
 
http:/> /jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacobs/2005/12/audience_storie.html
>


As this article from Mr. Jacobs shows, there are a ton of ways radio can capture an audience that satellite just isn't capable of. The problem is: very few stations are still doing those things.

Hopefully, this won't be the death of radio, but rather the death of boring jukebox radio.
 
> http:/>
> /jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacobs/2005/12/audience_storie.html
>
> >
>
>
> As this article from Mr. Jacobs shows, there are a ton of
> ways radio can capture an audience that satellite just isn't
> capable of. The problem is: very few stations are still
> doing those things.
>
> Hopefully, this won't be the death of radio, but rather the
> death of boring jukebox radio.
>

I couldn't agree with you more! I think anyone who thinks free radio doesn't need to make some major changes is very naive! All the stations that are voicetracked are gonna be the death of this industry (and there's alot of 'em). The few stations that are live 24/7 can't save the entire industry.

And satellite CAN take 'requests' just as easy as a local station. It offers traffic, contests and unregulated programming. An end to voicetracking would really be the only way save us.
(but how many penny pinchin' stations would really do that?!)

From AllAccess News: "SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO has announced that its 2005 year-end subscriber count ended up at 3,316,560" (that doesn't even count XM!)

And it's gonna be hard for HD to make a difference because I really think voicetracking is the major problem that makes free radio no better than paid.

Thanks for all your feedback! I was just curious because there are so many veterans to radio that seem to be in major denial of all this and won't even consider the idea of free radio ever going away.

Definitely nothing gonna happen any time soon, but probably will be obsolete within 10 or 20 years unless alot of changes are made.
 
After reading your pathic reply, I nearly gaged and choked on it.
I know Satallite radio is a radio! My point being dummy is that local radio won;t ever die ever! Now you might think so becasue you have no sense in the way of localized radio stations and what they have done for the community. Can you say anything about XM and Siruirs about giving to a community in this nation? Nooooooo. Cause they haven't! They can't becasue they are not localized!
So before you start to call me names, think about this...
I know what i am talking about more then I could ever say about you! Your reponse as I stated up top was pathic, lame and just shows where your intellgent level is in radio!
<P ID="signature">______________
From Radioman, the dude that knows most about radio and tries to think he does!</P>
 
> After reading your pathic reply, I nearly gaged and choked
> on it.
> I know Satallite radio is a radio! My point being dummy is
> that local radio won;t ever die ever! Now you might think so
> becasue you have no sense in the way of localized radio
> stations and what they have done for the community. Can you
> say anything about XM and Siruirs about giving to a
> community in this nation? Nooooooo. Cause they haven't! They
> can't becasue they are not localized!
> So before you start to call me names, think about this...
> I know what i am talking about more then I could ever say
> about you! Your reponse as I stated up top was pathic, lame
> and just shows where your intellgent level is in radio!
>
Radioman, It's very entertaining to see how many times your point changes! Every time you have an argument it gets shot down and you come up with something new! Now it's 'giving to the community'!!

Can't wait to see what's next! Thanks for the laughs man!
 
> > http:/>
> >
> /jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacobs/2005/12/audience_storie.html
>
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> > As this article from Mr. Jacobs shows, there are a ton of
> > ways radio can capture an audience that satellite just
> isn't
> > capable of. The problem is: very few stations are still
> > doing those things.
> >
> > Hopefully, this won't be the death of radio, but rather
> the
> > death of boring jukebox radio.
> >
>
> I couldn't agree with you more! I think anyone who thinks
> free radio doesn't need to make some major changes is very
> naive! All the stations that are voicetracked are gonna be
> the death of this industry (and there's alot of 'em). The
> few stations that are live 24/7 can't save the entire
> industry.
>
Granted in some cities stations are doing voice tracked, but as I can recall some companies are doing away with that! Now we all CC loves doing voice tracks, that is what they do best. but like for Regent Communications they don't do voice track the only time they would proably do that is over night when hardly anyone is even listing to the radio at all! But during the day time it's all live..
Take some stations around the front range..
how many of them during the day time M-F are voice track?
Not many, and non up in FOrt Collins are never voice tracked! Cause they know how valuable it is to have a live person on the air at all times expect for the over night hrs.
Now all the REgent stations here are LIVE 100% LIVE! They have no voice tracking what so ever!
So again free radio won't die becasue of that.. SOme stations that do have voice track would proably get low ratings becasue no one likes to hear a voice tracking person from another place to where that person has no local ties to the town where the station is located in.





> And satellite CAN take 'requests' just as easy as a local
> station. It offers traffic, contests and unregulated
> programming. An end to voicetracking would really be the
> only way save us.
> (but how many penny pinchin' stations would really do
> that?!)
>

Humm odd so far on Directv that offers XM I haven't heard them asking to phone in to take requests? Or even have contests... Tell me what music channles on XM does that? I wonder?



> From AllAccess News: "SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO has announced
> that its 2005 year-end subscriber count ended up at
> 3,316,560" (that doesn't even count XM!)
>
> And it's gonna be hard for HD to make a difference because I
> really think voicetracking is the major problem that makes
> free radio no better than paid.
>
You know something? Beleive it or I am sure that with Satallite radio they have everything prerecorded ahead of time. Its amazing what they can do with computers and not have the person there actually to do a show if any!

> Thanks for all your feedback! I was just curious because
> there are so many veterans to radio that seem to be in major
> denial of all this and won't even consider the idea of free
> radio ever going away.
>
> Definitely nothing gonna happen any time soon, but probably
> will be obsolete within 10 or 20 years unless alot of
> changes are made.
>
you might be right! For alot of reasons, Free radio is just that, free! People love the word FREE! Even when HD comes to radio and those HD receivers become more afforable to have! And I am sure they can compete with satallite some how in soem fashion! Oh yeah and free radio can be heard on the web for free as well!
Instead of being part of another company like XM is part of AOL Radio.
And yet they never ask a dime from anyone! WOW amazing isn't it?

<P ID="signature">______________
From Radioman, the dude that knows most about radio and tries to think he does!</P>
 
> > > http:/>
> > >
> >
> /jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacobs/2005/12/audience_storie.html
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As this article from Mr. Jacobs shows, there are a ton
> of
> > > ways radio can capture an audience that satellite just
> > isn't
> > > capable of. The problem is: very few stations are still
>
> > > doing those things.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, this won't be the death of radio, but rather
> > the
> > > death of boring jukebox radio.
> > >
> >
> > I couldn't agree with you more! I think anyone who thinks
>
> > free radio doesn't need to make some major changes is very
>
> > naive! All the stations that are voicetracked are gonna
> be
> > the death of this industry (and there's alot of 'em). The
>
> > few stations that are live 24/7 can't save the entire
> > industry.
> >
> Granted in some cities stations are doing voice tracked, but
> as I can recall some companies are doing away with that! Now
> we all CC loves doing voice tracks, that is what they do
> best. but like for Regent Communications they don't do voice
> track the only time they would proably do that is over night
> when hardly anyone is even listing to the radio at all! But
> during the day time it's all live..
> Take some stations around the front range..
> how many of them during the day time M-F are voice track?
> Not many, and non up in FOrt Collins are never voice
> tracked! Cause they know how valuable it is to have a live
> person on the air at all times expect for the over night
> hrs.
> Now all the REgent stations here are LIVE 100% LIVE! They
> have no voice tracking what so ever!
> So again free radio won't die becasue of that.. SOme
> stations that do have voice track would proably get low
> ratings becasue no one likes to hear a voice tracking person
> from another place to where that person has no local ties to
> the town where the station is located in.
>
>
>
>
>
> > And satellite CAN take 'requests' just as easy as a local
> > station. It offers traffic, contests and unregulated
> > programming. An end to voicetracking would really be the
> > only way save us.
> > (but how many penny pinchin' stations would really do
> > that?!)
> >
>
> Humm odd so far on Directv that offers XM I haven't heard
> them asking to phone in to take requests? Or even have
> contests... Tell me what music channles on XM does that? I
> wonder?
>
>
>
> > From AllAccess News: "SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO has announced
>
> > that its 2005 year-end subscriber count ended up at
> > 3,316,560" (that doesn't even count XM!)
> >
> > And it's gonna be hard for HD to make a difference because
> I
> > really think voicetracking is the major problem that makes
>
> > free radio no better than paid.
> >
> You know something? Beleive it or I am sure that with
> Satallite radio they have everything prerecorded ahead of
> time. Its amazing what they can do with computers and not
> have the person there actually to do a show if any!
>
> > Thanks for all your feedback! I was just curious because
> > there are so many veterans to radio that seem to be in
> major
> > denial of all this and won't even consider the idea of
> free
> > radio ever going away.
> >
> > Definitely nothing gonna happen any time soon, but
> probably
> > will be obsolete within 10 or 20 years unless alot of
> > changes are made.
> >
> you might be right! For alot of reasons, Free radio is just
> that, free! People love the word FREE! Even when HD comes to
> radio and those HD receivers become more afforable to have!
> And I am sure they can compete with satallite some how in
> soem fashion! Oh yeah and free radio can be heard on the web
> for free as well!
> Instead of being part of another company like XM is part of
> AOL Radio.
> And yet they never ask a dime from anyone! WOW amazing isn't
> it?
>

NO ONE knows what's gonna happen so you should really quit acting like you do!! You really lose credibility.

XM Station for requests: XM Cafe - #1-866-542-CAFE

I didn't look any further than that...but I'm sure there's more.

And with a phone number there can be contests. Even Jones Satellite radio does contesting. So again, thanks for the laughs!
 
> NO ONE knows what's gonna happen so you should really quit
> acting like you do!! You really lose credibility.
>
> XM Station for requests: XM Cafe - #1-866-542-CAFE
>
> I didn't look any further than that...but I'm sure there's
> more.
>
> And with a phone number there can be contests. Even Jones
> Satellite radio does contesting. So again, thanks for the
> laughs!
>

you must be one complete moron if you thought I was being funny. Cause I wasn't being funny at all! You really need to do more of your homework little man, and stop accusing me of being funny on this board.
Anyways it sadly appears that you are stuck on thinking Satallite radio is God and would destory free radio.
You are certinally not a very smart person to say the least ( and I know you well proably laugh at this becasue you are way to dumb not to laugh at this!) There for go ahead and laugh, I don't care at all little man.
Casue I still beleive that Free radio well be around way into 2020 and beyond!

Nothing can beat a localized FM/AM station! Not even satallite radio becasue they don;t have the resources or the means to cover every single little town or major city in the US!
So get that thru your thick skull Mister knows it all!<P ID="signature">______________
From Radioman, the dude that knows most about radio and tries to think he does!</P>
 
One Little flaw there radioman. Like you said CC is voicetracked much of the day. The exception -- at least in Fort Collins -- is KISS. The Bear uses some voice tracking throughout the day, excluding the morning show. MY has no people working at it, the only talent they need to pay is the computer named prophet.

As for the Regent cluster, they are infact voice tracked. I have a number of firends who work at The Point and Tri so before you say anything I know this for a fact. Just because someone like Boomer for instance may actually be in the studio from 3-7, doesnt mean her/their show is live. The Regent talent records breaks while songs are playing. Thats what gives you such a polished sound in a relatively small market. Also all of Regent's weekend programming is voiced. Neither of these practices are that uncommon. I know most Denver stations and most stations around the country do this. It just makes their people and their station sound more professional. Its part of what seperates corp. radio from college radio.

> > > http:/>
> > >
> >
> /jacobsmedia.typepad.com/jacobs/2005/12/audience_storie.html
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As this article from Mr. Jacobs shows, there are a ton
> of
> > > ways radio can capture an audience that satellite just
> > isn't
> > > capable of. The problem is: very few stations are still
>
> > > doing those things.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, this won't be the death of radio, but rather
> > the
> > > death of boring jukebox radio.
> > >
> >
> > I couldn't agree with you more! I think anyone who thinks
>
> > free radio doesn't need to make some major changes is very
>
> > naive! All the stations that are voicetracked are gonna
> be
> > the death of this industry (and there's alot of 'em). The
>
> > few stations that are live 24/7 can't save the entire
> > industry.
> >
> Granted in some cities stations are doing voice tracked, but
> as I can recall some companies are doing away with that! Now
> we all CC loves doing voice tracks, that is what they do
> best. but like for Regent Communications they don't do voice
> track the only time they would proably do that is over night
> when hardly anyone is even listing to the radio at all! But
> during the day time it's all live..
> Take some stations around the front range..
> how many of them during the day time M-F are voice track?
> Not many, and non up in FOrt Collins are never voice
> tracked! Cause they know how valuable it is to have a live
> person on the air at all times expect for the over night
> hrs.
> Now all the REgent stations here are LIVE 100% LIVE! They
> have no voice tracking what so ever!
> So again free radio won't die becasue of that.. SOme
> stations that do have voice track would proably get low
> ratings becasue no one likes to hear a voice tracking person
> from another place to where that person has no local ties to
> the town where the station is located in.
>
>
>
>
>
> > And satellite CAN take 'requests' just as easy as a local
> > station. It offers traffic, contests and unregulated
> > programming. An end to voicetracking would really be the
> > only way save us.
> > (but how many penny pinchin' stations would really do
> > that?!)
> >
>
> Humm odd so far on Directv that offers XM I haven't heard
> them asking to phone in to take requests? Or even have
> contests... Tell me what music channles on XM does that? I
> wonder?
>
>
>
> > From AllAccess News: "SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO has announced
>
> > that its 2005 year-end subscriber count ended up at
> > 3,316,560" (that doesn't even count XM!)
> >
> > And it's gonna be hard for HD to make a difference because
> I
> > really think voicetracking is the major problem that makes
>
> > free radio no better than paid.
> >
> You know something? Beleive it or I am sure that with
> Satallite radio they have everything prerecorded ahead of
> time. Its amazing what they can do with computers and not
> have the person there actually to do a show if any!
>
> > Thanks for all your feedback! I was just curious because
> > there are so many veterans to radio that seem to be in
> major
> > denial of all this and won't even consider the idea of
> free
> > radio ever going away.
> >
> > Definitely nothing gonna happen any time soon, but
> probably
> > will be obsolete within 10 or 20 years unless alot of
> > changes are made.
> >
> you might be right! For alot of reasons, Free radio is just
> that, free! People love the word FREE! Even when HD comes to
> radio and those HD receivers become more afforable to have!
> And I am sure they can compete with satallite some how in
> soem fashion! Oh yeah and free radio can be heard on the web
> for free as well!
> Instead of being part of another company like XM is part of
> AOL Radio.
> And yet they never ask a dime from anyone! WOW amazing isn't
> it?
>
 
I totally agree that AM/FM is not going to go away, espically at the hands of sat radio, but it is certinally going to change. I was at a convention this fall, that talked specically about this subject. The head of Infinity broadcasting-California said Infinity is already planning ways to combat the challenges presented by sat. Both he and the head of programming for Sirius who was also there agreed that free radio was not going anywhere, anytime soon, but rather going to under go a number of tremendous changes. Most noteablly right now is PODcasting that all of the Infinity stations in California were planning on offereing by mid 2006. Also they both talked of changing formats to be more tailored to specific listeners, whinc included stations like JACK and WILLE, who played a more eclitic mix of music.

Also as a side note the request line for Sirius is 1-800-33-Sirius

> > NO ONE knows what's gonna happen so you should really quit
>
> > acting like you do!! You really lose credibility.
> >
> > XM Station for requests: XM Cafe - #1-866-542-CAFE
> >
> > I didn't look any further than that...but I'm sure there's
>
> > more.
> >
> > And with a phone number there can be contests. Even Jones
>
> > Satellite radio does contesting. So again, thanks for the
>
> > laughs!
> >
>
> you must be one complete moron if you thought I was being
> funny. Cause I wasn't being funny at all! You really need to
> do more of your homework little man, and stop accusing me of
> being funny on this board.
> Anyways it sadly appears that you are stuck on thinking
> Satallite radio is God and would destory free radio.
> You are certinally not a very smart person to say the least
> ( and I know you well proably laugh at this becasue you are
> way to dumb not to laugh at this!) There for go ahead and
> laugh, I don't care at all little man.
> Casue I still beleive that Free radio well be around way
> into 2020 and beyond!
>
> Nothing can beat a localized FM/AM station! Not even
> satallite radio becasue they don;t have the resources or the
> means to cover every single little town or major city in the
> US!
> So get that thru your thick skull Mister knows it all!
>
 
> I agree that free radio is not going anywhere. However, I
> think we will see a shift to more specialized programing.
> Also Sirius does offer local traffice for the top 20 markets
> now, with plans to expand that to the top 50 markets, so
> that kind of kills that theory.
>
>

Last time I checked the entire population doesn't live in the top 50 markets. That having been said, you might want to keep an eye on broadband, when it reaches cars the whole ballgame changes yet again and it's not that far off, if you think it is you haven't been paying much attention to what's going on around you. Think about it for a minute, anything you can do at home you'll be able to do in your car with broadband. 93% of people already listen to radio on a weekly basis, if your station isn't streaming you're already starting in back of the pack. If your station is streaming you should be getting them to focus on streaming as much as you can, that's the only thing that will eventually save your a**, that and compelling content. Broadband will give you the ability to pick up the station that's streaming, in their car, at work or on their laptop sitting at the airport or on a plane with WiFi, just like they do now at home. Why do you think the two satellite companies are trying to broaden their platforms as quickly as they can? They see what's coming and it ain't pretty. I think you'll find radio will be around 10-15 years from today, but the way it's delivered will be very different and the audience will be a lot smaller than it is now. By the way, satellite will still be here but only one will survive, guess which one, and do you think the satellite company that survives will be required to carry local radio on one or more of their channels, much like cable does now? Isn't the future exciting?!
 
> I totally agree that AM/FM is not going to go away,
> espically at the hands of sat radio, but it is certinally
> going to change. I was at a convention this fall, that
> talked specically about this subject. The head of Infinity
> broadcasting-California said Infinity is already planning
> ways to combat the challenges presented by sat. Both he and
> the head of programming for Sirius who was also there agreed
> that free radio was not going anywhere, anytime soon, but
> rather going to under go a number of tremendous changes.
> Most noteablly right now is PODcasting that all of the
> Infinity stations in California were planning on offereing
> by mid 2006. Also they both talked of changing formats to
> be more tailored to specific listeners, whinc included
> stations like JACK and WILLE, who played a more eclitic mix
> of music.
>
> Also as a side note the request line for Sirius is
> 1-800-33-Sirius
>
hummm and I wonder what the rest of the Major radio companies will be doing on that note to?
Well Infinity does have 1 AM station that is doing exactly that in San Fran on the AM dial. And not sure how well that is going, but it is still broadcasting as an IPOD.
Just what this country doesn't need...
More Jacks! Aughh!
Jack has to be the easiest format in radio history to have and to switch to!
Actually i am quite curious..
With the launch of a Eurpoean satallite Radio, do you think that well effect radio over there?
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From Radioman, the dude that knows most about radio and tries to think he does!</P>
 
If I see one more post about radio being dead.....

GAG CHOKE COUGH.....

Lets see, how many years now have people been saying radio is dead......

When TV came, Radio was dead.
8 Tracks came, radio was dead.
When Cassettes came, radio was dead.
When Cable TV came, radio was dead.
When VCRs came, radio was dead.
When CDs came, radio was dead.
When MP3 players came, radio was dead.

See a theme here?

Technology has been changing yet radio remains. This is nothing new here.

Perhaps radio number have weakened, but I would not be writing a yulogy quite yet.



> Considering all the new technology (ipods, satellite, mp3's,
> etc.) how much longer could radio really last?
>
> Satellite now offers weather and traffic for over 20 cities
> at the push of a button. There's no waiting through
> unwanted songs or spots or promos we don't care about.
>
> So given that, what does radio really have to offer now a
> days?
>
> I am from the younger generation and have always had a
> passion for radio; but almost all of my friends (in early
> 20's) never even listen anymore. It's all about the ipod or
> satellite (mostly ipod).
>
> Do you think it's safe to say that 10 years from now radio
> will be the same as a cassette today?
>
 
Re: If I see one more post about radio being dead.....

Great point. Plus radio's numbers are down, but so are TV's, so if you use that logic, like some that I know do, then TV is or will soon be dead too. Bottom line neither of these mediums are going to die...newspapers, well we'll just have to see, but thats for another board.

> GAG CHOKE COUGH.....
>
> Lets see, how many years now have people been saying radio
> is dead......
>
> When TV came, Radio was dead.
> 8 Tracks came, radio was dead.
> When Cassettes came, radio was dead.
> When Cable TV came, radio was dead.
> When VCRs came, radio was dead.
> When CDs came, radio was dead.
> When MP3 players came, radio was dead.
>
> See a theme here?
>
> Technology has been changing yet radio remains. This is
> nothing new here.
>
> Perhaps radio number have weakened, but I would not be
> writing a yulogy quite yet.
>
>
>
> > Considering all the new technology (ipods, satellite,
> mp3's,
> > etc.) how much longer could radio really last?
> >
> > Satellite now offers weather and traffic for over 20
> cities
> > at the push of a button. There's no waiting through
> > unwanted songs or spots or promos we don't care about.
> >
> > So given that, what does radio really have to offer now a
> > days?
> >
> > I am from the younger generation and have always had a
> > passion for radio; but almost all of my friends (in early
> > 20's) never even listen anymore. It's all about the ipod
> or
> > satellite (mostly ipod).
> >
> > Do you think it's safe to say that 10 years from now radio
>
> > will be the same as a cassette today?
> >
>
 
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