I don't understand why sirius xm makes paying customers listen to the same songs over and over when most of their requests are for songs they don't play anymore. they should have two 60s channels. one with everything in their library, I know they have everything from listening to (IT) plus more songs they don't play on (IT) So they should have that station with Terry Young and Plash Phelps. and the limited Ipod 60s channel with no DJ'S. same with the 70s and 80s channels. get RID of Oprah and Martha Stewart. then they can hire Bobby Ocean And Martha Quinn full time. I am also curious about music choice on cable, do they have as much repetition as sirius xm?
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JohnnyOhJohnny said:I don't understand why sirius xm makes paying customers listen to the same songs over and over when most of their requests are for songs they don't play anymore. they should have two 60s channels. one with everything in their library, I know they have everything from listening to (IT) plus more songs they don't play on (IT) So they should have that station with Terry Young and Plash Phelps. and the limited Ipod 60s channel with no DJ'S. same with the 70s and 80s channels. get RID of Oprah and Martha Stewart. then they can hire Bobby Ocean And Martha Quinn full time. I am also curious about music choice on cable, do they have as much repetition as sirius xm?
I heard "Green Grass" by Gary Lewis & the Playboys at least 3 times last week. They had a big playlist to draw from, but now they appear to be narrowing down just like the commercial stations.
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FRR said:The 60's channel has gone downhill since the merger, that is for sure. The playlist is smaller and repeats go on and on. There should be some way to play everything in the library, and they sure aren't doing that now.
Agreed. They should have kept the 60s channel programmed exactly as it was by XM.
Ratings for the XM decades channels before the merger were quite high (especially the 60s), so they merge and adopt a tighter playlist and people complain. Why not stick with the format/playlists that got them bigger ratings? Why pay for something you can get for free? I am afraid SiriusXM is cutting its own throat on the failure of the decades channels. The repeats are out of control, and not only do they not dig deeper, they have even cut many big top 10 hits out of the playlists completely!! Its really a shame!
>>The repeats are out of control, and not only do they not dig deeper, they have even cut many big top 10 hits out of the playlists completely!! Its really a shame!>>
You are right on. The beauty of the decade channels was their deeper playlists. Now the repeats are ridiculous.
You are right on. The beauty of the decade channels was their deeper playlists. Now the repeats are ridiculous.
It seems that we all agree on the decades channels and how they have reduced their playlists. Is there anything or anybody that could actually address our issues? I get the idea from reading the boards that the management at XM could really care less what we think. Do you think that is accurate, and if it isn't, how do we navigate the management to get them to consider our concerns.
FRR said:how do we navigate the management to get them to consider our concerns.
The only way they will take notice is if there is a mass cancellation for that stated reason. You have to hit them in the pocketbook.
wesdev224 said:FRR said:how do we navigate the management to get them to consider our concerns.
The only way they will take notice is if there is a mass cancellation for that stated reason. You have to hit them in the pocketbook.
Agreed, but I don't know why they suddenly think that narrowing the playlist will improve things. Especially when the decade channels were well rated.
radioman148 said:wesdev224 said:FRR said:how do we navigate the management to get them to consider our concerns.
The only way they will take notice is if there is a mass cancellation for that stated reason. You have to hit them in the pocketbook.
Agreed, but I don't know why they suddenly think that narrowing the playlist will improve things. Especially when the decade channels were well rated.
They do things just to justify their existence in the organization.
I work in publishing. We had an agency, a big one, that distibuted our publication. Their daily draw was combined, in the thousands of copies a day. They returned, on average, 50-60% of their draw. Each day, our draw clerks would receive revisions to their draws of maybe 5-10 copies a day. With more than half of your draw being returned as unsold, what was the point in the daily revision? Simple enough to figure out. Someone had to justify their employment. Needless to say, they are no longer in business.
wesdev224 said:radioman148 said:wesdev224 said:FRR said:how do we navigate the management to get them to consider our concerns.
The only way they will take notice is if there is a mass cancellation for that stated reason. You have to hit them in the pocketbook.
Agreed, but I don't know why they suddenly think that narrowing the playlist will improve things. Especially when the decade channels were well rated.
They do things just to justify their existence in the organization.
I work in publishing. We had an agency, a big one, that distibuted our publication. Their daily draw was combined, in the thousands of copies a day. They returned, on average, 50-60% of their draw. Each day, our draw clerks would receive revisions to their draws of maybe 5-10 copies a day. With more than half of your draw being returned as unsold, what was the point in the daily revision? Simple enough to figure out. Someone had to justify their employment. Needless to say, they are no longer in business.
History will most likely repeat itself.
JohnnyOhJohnny said:I don't understand why sirius xm makes paying customers listen to the same songs over and over when most of their requests are for songs they don't play anymore. they should have two 60s channels. one with everything in their library, I know they have everything from listening to (IT) plus more songs they don't play on (IT) So they should have that station with Terry Young and Plash Phelps. and the limited Ipod 60s channel with no DJ'S. same with the 70s and 80s channels. get RID of Oprah and Martha Stewart. then they can hire Bobby Ocean And Martha Quinn full time. I am also curious about music choice on cable, do they have as much repetition as sirius xm?
My concern is with the specialty programming, especially on Channel 5. They've dropped Bob Moke's early '50s Pop show on Saturdays, and the excellent Daddy Dave's Hollywood Diner. True, they've extended Cool Bobby B. to 3 hours, but maybe that's a bit too much Doo Wop. Thankfully the Hollywood Diner show is available (for now) as a podcast on Daddy Dave's website: http://www.davewood.com/diner/index.html. Maybe I should cancel my XM subscription and send my monthly payment to Daddy Dave.
TheFonz said:JohnnyOhJohnny said:I don't understand why sirius xm makes paying customers listen to the same songs over and over when most of their requests are for songs they don't play anymore. they should have two 60s channels. one with everything in their library, I know they have everything from listening to (IT) plus more songs they don't play on (IT) So they should have that station with Terry Young and Plash Phelps. and the limited Ipod 60s channel with no DJ'S. same with the 70s and 80s channels. get RID of Oprah and Martha Stewart. then they can hire Bobby Ocean And Martha Quinn full time. I am also curious about music choice on cable, do they have as much repetition as sirius xm?
My concern is with the specialty programming, especially on Channel 5. They've dropped Bob Moke's early '50s Pop show on Saturdays, and the excellent Daddy Dave's Hollywood Diner. True, they've extended Cool Bobby B. to 3 hours, but maybe that's a bit too much Doo Wop. Thankfully the Hollywood Diner show is available (for now) as a podcast on Daddy Dave's website: http://www.davewood.com/diner/index.html. Maybe I should cancel my XM subscription and send my monthly payment to Daddy Dave.
I miss Bob Moke "The Music Professor's" show. He's forgotten more about music than most people ever knew.
I agree, the decades channels have gotten worse. I also noticed last weekend that the 50's and 70's channels were playing 60's music.Not just fringe years (say 1960 or 1969), but one song one the 50's was a song that was on the charts in 1963. Maybe they should just merge all 3 channels into one oldie's station.
donicus said:I agree, the decades channels have gotten worse. I also noticed last weekend that the 50's and 70's channels were playing 60's music.Not just fringe years (say 1960 or 1969), but one song one the 50's was a song that was on the charts in 1963. Maybe they should just merge all 3 channels into one oldie's station.
For the last several days I've heard "Bend Me Shape Me" and "Spirit In The Sky" over & over on the 60s channel.
It's almost like being back in that week in the 60s & hearing WLS or WABC play those songs over & over again because they were popular at the time.
Don't these people realize that there is alot more music that can be played?
radioman148 said:donicus said:I agree, the decades channels have gotten worse. I also noticed last weekend that the 50's and 70's channels were playing 60's music.Not just fringe years (say 1960 or 1969), but one song one the 50's was a song that was on the charts in 1963. Maybe they should just merge all 3 channels into one oldie's station.
For the last several days I've heard "Bend Me Shape Me" and "Spirit In The Sky" over & over on the 60s channel.
It's almost like being back in that week in the 60s & hearing WLS or WABC play those songs over & over again because they were popular at the time.
Don't these people realize that there is alot more music that can be played?
The braintrust at Sirius is not smart enough to think out of the box. Mel and his minions are not smart enough to program alternative broadcasting to terrestrial radio, so the answer was to take a non terrestrial entity and recast it as a commercial free FM-esque entity. That's the only way they were able to understand and run the thing. Which is a real shame, because they totally destroyed the superior XM in the process. They should havew just eliminated all Sirius programming and went with XM. They should have left it intact, but no, they couldn't help but f*ck with it. Now, XM is no better than the mongrel Sirius.
wesdev224 said:radioman148 said:donicus said:I agree, the decades channels have gotten worse. I also noticed last weekend that the 50's and 70's channels were playing 60's music.Not just fringe years (say 1960 or 1969), but one song one the 50's was a song that was on the charts in 1963. Maybe they should just merge all 3 channels into one oldie's station.
For the last several days I've heard "Bend Me Shape Me" and "Spirit In The Sky" over & over on the 60s channel.
It's almost like being back in that week in the 60s & hearing WLS or WABC play those songs over & over again because they were popular at the time.
Don't these people realize that there is alot more music that can be played?
The braintrust at Sirius is not smart enough to think out of the box. Mel and his minions are not smart enough to program alternative broadcasting to terrestrial radio, so the answer was to take a non terrestrial entity and recast it as a commercial free FM-esque entity. That's the only way they were able to understand and run the thing. Which is a real shame, because they totally destroyed the superior XM in the process. They should havew just eliminated all Sirius programming and went with XM. They should have left it intact, but no, they couldn't help but f*ck with it. Now, XM is no better than the mongrel Sirius.
I agree XM was far superior before the merger.
wesdev224 said:radioman148 said:donicus said:I agree, the decades channels have gotten worse. I also noticed last weekend that the 50's and 70's channels were playing 60's music.Not just fringe years (say 1960 or 1969), but one song one the 50's was a song that was on the charts in 1963. Maybe they should just merge all 3 channels into one oldie's station.
For the last several days I've heard "Bend Me Shape Me" and "Spirit In The Sky" over & over on the 60s channel.
It's almost like being back in that week in the 60s & hearing WLS or WABC play those songs over & over again because they were popular at the time.
Don't these people realize that there is alot more music that can be played?
The braintrust at Sirius is not smart enough to think out of the box. Mel and his minions are not smart enough to program alternative broadcasting to terrestrial radio, so the answer was to take a non terrestrial entity and recast it as a commercial free FM-esque entity. That's the only way they were able to understand and run the thing. Which is a real shame, because they totally destroyed the superior XM in the process. They should havew just eliminated all Sirius programming and went with XM. They should have left it intact, but no, they couldn't help but f*ck with it. Now, XM is no better than the mongrel Sirius.
Or ... Mel and his minions compared the number of subscribers XM, with Lee Abrams' out-of-the-box musical philosophy, was able to attract in seven years (about 9 million), to the number of subscribers Sirius, with its safe New York City corporate approach to music, was able to attract in only six (about 8 million, with the gap narrowing every quarter), and said, "Boy, was XM f*cked up, going after the intelligent music listener. This is America, land of mediocrity; there aren't enough intelligent music listeners out there to make this thing work. Let's go with our research and play what the sheeple want to hear, over and over, and let the elitist minority either suffer or go back to their old vinyl collections."
CTListener said:wesdev224 said:radioman148 said:donicus said:I agree, the decades channels have gotten worse. I also noticed last weekend that the 50's and 70's channels were playing 60's music.Not just fringe years (say 1960 or 1969), but one song one the 50's was a song that was on the charts in 1963. Maybe they should just merge all 3 channels into one oldie's station.
For the last several days I've heard "Bend Me Shape Me" and "Spirit In The Sky" over & over on the 60s channel.
It's almost like being back in that week in the 60s & hearing WLS or WABC play those songs over & over again because they were popular at the time.
Don't these people realize that there is alot more music that can be played?
The braintrust at Sirius is not smart enough to think out of the box. Mel and his minions are not smart enough to program alternative broadcasting to terrestrial radio, so the answer was to take a non terrestrial entity and recast it as a commercial free FM-esque entity. That's the only way they were able to understand and run the thing. Which is a real shame, because they totally destroyed the superior XM in the process. They should havew just eliminated all Sirius programming and went with XM. They should have left it intact, but no, they couldn't help but f*ck with it. Now, XM is no better than the mongrel Sirius.
Or ... Mel and his minions compared the number of subscribers XM, with Lee Abrams' out-of-the-box musical philosophy, was able to attract in seven years (about 9 million), to the number of subscribers Sirius, with its safe New York City corporate approach to music, was able to attract in only six (about 8 million, with the gap narrowing every quarter), and said, "Boy, was XM f*cked up, going after the intelligent music listener. This is America, land of mediocrity; there aren't enough intelligent music listeners out there to make this thing work. Let's go with our research and play what the sheeple want to hear, over and over, and let the elitist minority either suffer or go back to their old vinyl collections."
I miss the Top six on the hour on the 60s channel.
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