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Del Rio station trying to serve San Antonio

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fredcantu

As VasalloVision loses its Houston affiliate today, I was checking their network website and came across their affiliate in San Antonio on channel 28. It's licensed to Del Rio! Right now their tower is in Del Rio but they have applied to move their tower as far east as they can and still provide city grade to Del Rio. The tower ended up just NW of Uvalde. Check out the proposed coverage.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1245299.html
 
I got a chuckle when I called up the RabbitEars Longley-Rice maps and zoomed in on Del Rio. Most of the city is going to get marginal or no signal from KYVV, but one street shows a fair-to-good signal: Cantu Rd.

Looks like Eagle Pass is going to get the same treatment from KVAW - like a baby treats a diaper.
 
I worked the radio end in both of these markets and I would wonder how either station could make it.

18 years ago I was in Eagle Pass and local TV spots were $5. My AM/FM combo rate was $3.60 for a thirty and I lost lots of business because businesses could buy 50 cent spots on stations in Mexico.

Both are really tough markets. Only a handful of businesses had a buget big enough for TV and that's at minimal rates.

I'd think the key to survival is trying for San Antonio.
 
fredcantu said:
And Del Rio loses its only full power TV station in the process.
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Considering it's spent more time off the air than on in the last few years, I doubt anyone will miss it.

- Trip
 
From looking at the map, it's not going to cover San Antonio very well just a rimshot. Even if someone applys to move the stick closer to SA would that effect KABB Ch. 29 (30) a little bit?
 
The problem with TV rimshots in the digital age is that antennas are more touchy. And since most antennas will be aimed at Elmendorf, TV towers west of SA won't get much play. But the rim shot might be enough to get them on SA cable.
 
fredcantu said:
The problem with TV rimshots in the digital age is that antennas are more touchy. And since most antennas will be aimed at Elmendorf, TV towers west of SA won't get much play. But the rim shot might be enough to get them on SA cable.
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Why doesnt the SA TV stations move their antenna farm from Elmendorf to somewhere west of SA, so that way they cover more of its own market, and maybe it could reach almost to Del Rio... They should move their sticks to Lakehills, which is where KMYS's tower is located.
 
KMYS is a relatively new rimshot licensed to Kerrville. That's why its not with the metro stations in Elmendorf. ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, PBS, Telemundo, TBN and Univision are all full power stations licensed to San Antonio.

The full power rimshots put up their tower where they can reach San Anotnio but still put a decent signal over their community of license:
KCWX 2 MyTV (Fredericksburg)
KNIC 17 Telefutura (Blanco)
KPXL 26 Ion (Uvalde)
KMYS 35 CW (Kerrville)
And if it ever moves...
KYVV 28 (Del Rio)
 
wild949austin said:
Why doesnt the SA TV stations move their antenna farm from Elmendorf to somewhere west of SA, so that way they cover more of its own market, and maybe it could reach almost to Del Rio... They should move their sticks to Lakehills, which is where KMYS's tower is located.
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Simply put, the bulk of the population of the San Antonio market is in three counties. This is why San Antonio is the country's 8th or 9th largest city but barely even a top-40 TV market. Smaller cities like Charlotte can leapfrog over San Antonio despite having roughly half of San Antonio's population because it keeps adding high population counties to its market. While there may be some technical reasons they can't be moved west, there's really not much between San Antonio and Del Rio, and such a move could weaken their signals in parts of Comal County. It's a losing proposition!
 
And here is how KYVV-TV proposes to serve San Antonio:

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...xt=25&appn=101402146&formid=346&fac_num=55762

I notice that the station's owner, SATV10, is headed by Barbara Laurence, who also heads Cranston Acquisition, owner of KMCC in Laughlin NV, which is about 75 miles south of Las Vegas, but separated from Vegas by two mountain ranges. The analog facility used to broadcast from a location within Laughlin and served about 50,000 residents of Laughlin and Bullhead City AZ. Cranston then applied for a maximized UHF post transition facility to broadcast from a location near Dolan Springs AZ that would theoretically cover both Laughlin and Las Vegas, according to the FCC coverage map. In actuality, the Dolan Springs signal would cover neither city well, according to Longley-Rice predictions, so Cranston applied for two STA digital facilities, one within Laughlin and the other on Black Mountain in Henderson NV, a suburb of Las Vegas, to cover the metro area. Sound familiar?

Cranston fired up both STA facilities, and began building the Dolan Springs facility. Once completed, they applied for a license for Dolan Springs and shut down Laughlin. However, the Dolan Springs transmitter has never come on - KMCC only broadcasts to Metro Las Vegas from Black Mountain, and no signal at all is available in Laughlin, the city of license.

Being that the same person heads the ownership group of each station, I wonder if KYVV will repeat the pattern of KMCC, i.e., broadcasting from the site near the metro area, while ignoring the primary signal.
 
dhett said:
Being that the same person heads the ownership group of each station, I wonder if KYVV will repeat the pattern of KMCC, i.e., broadcasting from the site near the metro area, while ignoring the primary signal.
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It looks like that's the plan. Here's a map of their proposed site; you'll need to zoom out to reveal the details, but it's just west of Lake Medina (and Lakehills): http://www.fccinfo.com/MapIt5.php?l...V<br+/>Del+Rio,+TX&city=Del+Rio&Button=Map+It

The coordinates aren't the same as KMYS but they're close.
 
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