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Delilah SUES!

http://seattle> times.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002380515_delilah14m.html
>
>
> God save the queen...

Just LOOK at this...

1. "According to the suit, they discussed TV specials, magazines, a product line and designer clothing with the "Delilah" logo...."

C'mon Delilah, do you really NEED TV specials, magazines, product lines and your own f--king designer line of clothing?

You're not Oprah or Martha, Delilah. You're supposed to be deeper thinking than that. That crap is not what makes your program work. It supposed to be something much more deeper and real to your audience than whatever money can buy.

I think it pays off better in the long run to stay humble and keep your energy focused on what made your show what it is and forget all the pretentious overmarketing. There's enough of that already in the world.

2. "According to the lawsuit, Rene says that the Hails told her that they had been called by God to help her...."

..and you FELL for THIS Delilah? If someone says they had been called by God to help me, then they had better divinely turn this bottle of Nestle Strawberry Quik into Dom Perignon in front of my face before I enter into any legally binding contract with them.

Sometimes, even demons can become angels temporarily if there's money in it for them.

3. "Neal Hail and Kevin Hail call Rene "something of a celebrity" with a struggling career boosted by the "near-miracles" of Neal Hail. They say she's suing "the very people who helped her and made her new-found success possible...."

Now that's pure BULLS--T. Delilah's show had been taking over the nighttime American AC airwaves long before these guys showed up....

4. "As many athletes and entertainers are, I think she is naive in business ways, and the agreements are complex," Lewis said. "And I think she just didn't understand any of that, just trusted that the defendants were setting up things the way she understood they were setting them up."

ALWAYS read the fine print. Or get someone who can BEFORE the papers are signed......










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>
> 3. "Neal Hail and Kevin Hail call Rene "something of a
> celebrity" with a struggling career boosted by the
> "near-miracles" of Neal Hail. They say she's suing "the very
> people who helped her and made her new-found success
> possible...."
>
> Now that's pure BULLS--T. Delilah's show had been taking
> over the nighttime American AC airwaves long before these
> guys showed up....


Amen. She's always been great in the AC ratings-these fellas had nothing to do with her success. As for "new-found success..." that's just stupid.

>
> 4. "As many athletes and entertainers are, I think she is
> naive in business ways, and the agreements are complex,"
> Lewis said. "And I think she just didn't understand any of
> that, just trusted that the defendants were setting up
> things the way she understood they were setting them up."
>
> ALWAYS read the fine print. Or get someone who can BEFORE
> the papers are signed......
>
>
>
>
One thing I know about Delilah is that she is very trusting. If something is said to her sincerely, in all likelihood, she'll believe it. She's not stupid, but it's sad that people would take advantage of her like that.

I hope she wins the suit.
 
> >
> > 3. "Neal Hail and Kevin Hail call Rene "something of a
> > celebrity" with a struggling career boosted by the
> > "near-miracles" of Neal Hail. They say she's suing "the
> very
> > people who helped her and made her new-found success
> > possible...."
> >
> > Now that's pure BULLS--T. Delilah's show had been taking
> > over the nighttime American AC airwaves long before these
> > guys showed up....
>
>
> Amen. She's always been great in the AC ratings-these
> fellas had nothing to do with her success. As for
> "new-found success..." that's just stupid.
>
> >
> > 4. "As many athletes and entertainers are, I think she is
> > naive in business ways, and the agreements are complex,"
> > Lewis said. "And I think she just didn't understand any of
>
> > that, just trusted that the defendants were setting up
> > things the way she understood they were setting them up."
> >
> > ALWAYS read the fine print. Or get someone who can BEFORE
> > the papers are signed......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> One thing I know about Delilah is that she is very trusting.
> If something is said to her sincerely, in all likelihood,
> she'll believe it. She's not stupid, but it's sad that
> people would take advantage of her like that.
>
> I hope she wins the suit.

But it amazes me that somehow, she never caught on to the most important realities of the business world. And that's read the fine print, have a lawyer interpret what you don't understand and make sure the deal is 100% loophole free for the other side.

In places like Mount Vernon, it's not unusual for two individual people to do business on a handshake, as long as it's not something that usually involves more than $50 and the two people know each other. But in corporate business, that's impossible. Other factors, especially greed and lawyers work their way in.......
>
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> You're not Oprah or Martha, Delilah. You're supposed to be
> deeper thinking than that. That crap is not what makes your
> program work. It supposed to be something much more deeper
> and real to your audience than whatever money can buy.

Radio is fleeting...making your name a "brand" is forever!

You can bet long after their media sun has set there will still be Martha Stewart and Christopher Lowell home accessories.

'O' will still be a magazine.

Look at the number of CD compilations packaged using the names of Casey Kasem, Dick Clark or Wolfman Jack.

"Delilah" is a brand that represents love, romance, emotions, compassion. Why not a TV special? Toni Grant did it. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew made Loveline a series. So did Dr. Laura ... for a little while.

> 4. "As many athletes and entertainers are, I think she is
> naive in business ways, and the agreements are complex,"
> Lewis said. "And I think she just didn't understand any of
> that, just trusted that the defendants were setting up
> things the way she understood they were setting them up."

Was she naive or crazy like a fox? Jones Radio isn't Premiere, but it's not two tin cans and a string either. Think she wasn't already making a couple hundred thousand with her existing deal? You can't live in that tax bracket without knowing SOMETHING about the fine print.

Something tells me there's more to this deal she made in Dallas - and the relationship between the person she made it WITH - than is being told now.
 
> But it amazes me that somehow, she never caught on to the
> most important realities of the business world. And that's
> read the fine print, have a lawyer interpret what you don't
> understand and make sure the deal is 100% loophole free for
> the other side.

But common sense says that if two guys were willing to buy out her non-compete to move her to Premiere, they'd want a bit of a cut in the action for themselves.

Nobody does that out of the goodness of their heart.

Like any two-bit manager would, they told her they'd make her a bigger star. Like most people, her ego kicked in and the rest is history.

I think she was hoping for sympathy from the public by making a fuss out in the open. It had the opposite effect on me. Maybe her audience will look at it differently, but the whole "I want a TV show and clothing line, and I want 100%" sounds kinda greedy to me.<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
 
http://seattle> times.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002380515_delilah14m.html
>
>
> God save the queen...
>
A close source says that "friend" is the president of Premiere Radio Networks. Wonder what his wife thinks?
 
> > You're not Oprah or Martha, Delilah. You're supposed to be
>
> > deeper thinking than that. That crap is not what makes
> your
> > program work. It supposed to be something much more deeper
>
> > and real to your audience than whatever money can buy.
>
> Radio is fleeting...making your name a "brand" is forever!
>
> You can bet long after their media sun has set there will
> still be Martha Stewart and Christopher Lowell home
> accessories.

......yours for $1.00 at Goodwill or at someone's garage sale a year from now. Not a very elegant future. If I were to make a product, I would want it to last a while and be more than just temporary eye candy. Style changes too much to be worth it.
>
> 'O' will still be a magazine.

Waiting room/lobby end table fodder....
>
> Look at the number of CD compilations packaged using the
> names of Casey Kasem, Dick Clark or Wolfman Jack.

Where?
>
> "Delilah" is a brand that represents love, romance,
> emotions, compassion....

....that can turn into greed, pretentiousness and overblown marketing if she does not tread very carefully in her business affairs, something Delilah is painfully finding out now. This debacle is part of why I don't think it's a good idea for her. She's obviously not prepared for the cutthroat business world, who probably look at the press of her business naivete and lick their chops. She may have a lot of great ideas under her hat, but if she can't keep her own radio show running without legal complications, mass marketing of her radio image will be a DISASTER. And she'll keep getting screwed until she gets hip and stops presuming every sweet talker is an angel. Like I said before, even demons can temporarily become angels if there's money in it for them.

Delilah really should have waited and stayed with her Jones deal.

Why also ruin it with a clothing line made by unpaid children in a sweatshop in Honduras?

Why not a TV special? Toni Grant did
> it. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew made Loveline a series. So did
> Dr. Laura ... for a little while.

Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew talked about SEX on the radio. That was their hook. God only knows what Dr. Laura thought she had that inspired her disasterous TV show. And where's Toni Grant these days?

Honestly, she's better off OUT of this graveyard...
>
> > 4. "As many athletes and entertainers are, I think she is
> > naive in business ways, and the agreements are complex,"
> > Lewis said. "And I think she just didn't understand any of
>
> > that, just trusted that the defendants were setting up
> > things the way she understood they were setting them up."
>
> Was she naive or crazy like a fox? Jones Radio isn't
> Premiere, but it's not two tin cans and a string either.
> Think she wasn't already making a couple hundred thousand
> with her existing deal? You can't live in that tax bracket
> without knowing SOMETHING about the fine print.

When you let others handle most of your business affairs, I say it's pretty naive.....

>
> Something tells me there's more to this deal she made in
> Dallas - and the relationship between the person she made it
> WITH - than is being told now.

Well, if there is an ill-advised relationship going on, the smart thing for her to do is to come clean about it with everybody on her own RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Her chances for forgiveness with the public are far greater by coming clean than they would be with an embarrassing scandal. Secondly by coming clean, she takes away one of the defendant's most valuable weapons against her.

I just think she's gotten too starry-eyed. Yes, Oprah and Martha have nice designer lines of stuff. But how much really leaves the shelves at full price and how much get wriiten off and tossed in the clearence racks? At K-Mart the other day, I saw a lot of Martha Stewart stuff from last year in a blue-light discount table, being pawed at by crusty old hags and skanky tweeker chicks. Is this how she wants to be remembered? Just a here today, gone tomorrow clothing fad? I think her show in itself is all she needs and it's successful enough. Adding on all this extra stuff will only weigh it down and if it fails, it's going to hard to recover from.....


>
<P ID="signature">______________
Seattle Hempfest, August 20-21, Myrtle Edwards Park, http://www.hempfest.org/

[email protected]


</P>
 
> Delilah really should have waited and stayed with her Jones
> deal.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!

No, she really, really would not have EVER done that. It's funny to hear people talk about something of which they have no or little clue...and you have NONE!
 
What the hell is up with the sue happy women of radio in this town? First Robin Erickson and now Delilah?

Maybe they are starting some kind of Male Haters Society or somthing?

What female is going to go off the deep end next and feel as though she is getting dicked by her co-workers or representation and sue?


http://seattle> times.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002380515_delilah14m.html
>
>
> God save the queen...
>
 
> > > You're not Oprah or Martha, Delilah. You're supposed to
> be
> >
> > > deeper thinking than that. That crap is not what makes
> > your
> > > program work. It supposed to be something much more
> deeper
> >
> > > and real to your audience than whatever money can buy.
> >
> > Radio is fleeting...making your name a "brand" is forever!
>
> >
> > You can bet long after their media sun has set there will
> > still be Martha Stewart and Christopher Lowell home
> > accessories.
>
> ......yours for $1.00 at Goodwill or at someone's garage
> sale a year from now. Not a very elegant future. If I were
> to make a product, I would want it to last a while and be
> more than just temporary eye candy. Style changes too much
> to be worth it.
> >
> > 'O' will still be a magazine.
>
> Waiting room/lobby end table fodder....
> >
> > Look at the number of CD compilations packaged using the
> > names of Casey Kasem, Dick Clark or Wolfman Jack.
>
> Where?
> >
> > "Delilah" is a brand that represents love, romance,
> > emotions, compassion....
>
> ....that can turn into greed, pretentiousness and overblown
> marketing if she does not tread very carefully in her
> business affairs, something Delilah is painfully finding out
> now. This debacle is part of why I don't think it's a good
> idea for her. She's obviously not prepared for the cutthroat
> business world, who probably look at the press of her
> business naivete and lick their chops. She may have a lot of
> great ideas under her hat, but if she can't keep her own
> radio show running without legal complications, mass
> marketing of her radio image will be a DISASTER. And she'll
> keep getting screwed until she gets hip and stops presuming
> every sweet talker is an angel. Like I said before, even
> demons can temporarily become angels if there's money in it
> for them.
>
> Delilah really should have waited and stayed with her Jones
> deal.
>
> Why also ruin it with a clothing line made by unpaid
> children in a sweatshop in Honduras?
>
> Why not a TV special? Toni Grant did
> > it. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew made Loveline a series. So
> did
> > Dr. Laura ... for a little while.
>
> Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew talked about SEX on the radio.
> That was their hook. God only knows what Dr. Laura thought
> she had that inspired her disasterous TV show. And where's
> Toni Grant these days?
>
> Honestly, she's better off OUT of this graveyard...
> >
> > > 4. "As many athletes and entertainers are, I think she
> is
> > > naive in business ways, and the agreements are complex,"
>
> > > Lewis said. "And I think she just didn't understand any
> of
> >
> > > that, just trusted that the defendants were setting up
> > > things the way she understood they were setting them
> up."
> >
> > Was she naive or crazy like a fox? Jones Radio isn't
> > Premiere, but it's not two tin cans and a string either.
> > Think she wasn't already making a couple hundred thousand
> > with her existing deal? You can't live in that tax bracket
>
> > without knowing SOMETHING about the fine print.
>
> When you let others handle most of your business affairs, I
> say it's pretty naive.....
>
Billy Joel learned this the hard way many years ago.
> >
> > Something tells me there's more to this deal she made in
> > Dallas - and the relationship between the person she made
> it
> > WITH - than is being told now.
>
> Well, if there is an ill-advised relationship going on, the
> smart thing for her to do is to come clean about it with
> everybody on her own RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for the
> other shoe to drop. Her chances for forgiveness with the
> public are far greater by coming clean than they would be
> with an embarrassing scandal. Secondly by coming clean, she
> takes away one of the defendant's most valuable weapons
> against her.
>
> I just think she's gotten too starry-eyed. Yes, Oprah and
> Martha have nice designer lines of stuff. But how much
> really leaves the shelves at full price and how much get
> wriiten off and tossed in the clearence racks? At K-Mart the
> other day, I saw a lot of Martha Stewart stuff from last
> year in a blue-light discount table, being pawed at by
> crusty old hags and skanky tweeker chicks. Is this how she
> wants to be remembered? Just a here today, gone tomorrow
> clothing fad? I think her show in itself is all she needs
> and it's successful enough. Adding on all this extra stuff
> will only weigh it down and if it fails, it's going to hard
> to recover from.....
>
>
> >
>
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