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Denny Schaffer article in Toledo Newspaper -- Is he leaving WGST???

From Russ Lemmon's column in THE TOLEDO BLADE:

Who knows? Denny could come back


Just as Carty Finkbeiner made a political comeback, the stars may be aligning for Denny Schaffer to return to Toledo radio.

Carty and Denny, together again? It could happen.

It has been nearly 10 months since Schaffer left WSPD-AM (1370) for a job at WGST-AM in Atlanta. Both stations are owned by Clear Channel.

So, how is he faring? Let's just say his 8 a.m.-to-noon gig in a Top 10 market has not been a success story.

Even though the Atlanta radio market is more than seven times the size of Toledo, Schaffer had more listeners on WSPD than he does on WGST.

During Arbitron's winter survey – his first full ratings period at WGST – Schaffer's talk show averaged 6,000 listeners during a typical 15-minute interval. A year earlier, his afternoon-drive show on WSPD averaged 7,900.

In Atlanta, he is tied for 25th in his time slot with a 0.8-percent audience share. In Toledo the year before, he was No. 2 with a 9.1 share.

"Denny is out of his league down here," said Eric Seidel, owner of The Media Trainers, a communications and consulting company. "Talk radio should entertain and enrich. Unfortunately, Denny doesn't do either."

When Schaffer announced on WSPD that he was leaving, he said he was going to a station that was in "rough shape." He wasn't kidding. WGST tied for 21st in Arbitron's first ratings period of '06.

"Denny's in a near-impossible position at a station that's in major trouble," said an Atlanta radio observer. "He was given a very poor hand to start with – he's getting zero promotion and his lead-in (Tom Hughes) is doing poorly as well."

Seidel, who spent 10 years as station manager of WGST before leaving to start his company in 1997, says the station "has been adrift" for the last few years.

"I don't put it all on Denny's doorstep at all," he said.

Schaffer's on-air persona – a right-wing conservative – does not generate the "watercooler talk" that it did in Toledo.

"Politically, he's in line with the target market. I question his depth," Seidel said. "Denny is going up against one of the best talents in the country – Neal Boortz (on WSB-AM). And when you compare Denny to Neal Boortz, there is no comparison."
Predictably, perhaps, Schaffer's woeful ratings in Atlanta have spurred rumors of his return to Toledo.

When asked if there was any truth to the rumor that Clear Channel Toledo has approached Schaffer about returning, market manager Andy Stuart refused comment.

Given the opportunity to address the return-to-Toledo rumor, Schaffer passed.

WSPD's ratings have dropped since the departure of Schaffer and morning host Bob Frantz. WVKS-FM (92.5), where Schaffer spent more than a decade as morning host, has struggled mightily since his departure in 2003.

Another possibility for Schaffer would be one of the Cumulus-owned stations in Toledo. In 2003, as his WVKS contract was about to expire, Schaffer was seen golfing with a Cumulus executive.

Seidel wouldn't be surprised if Schaffer returned to Toledo.

"There are some people who are just built for a single market – and that's where they are going to make their name," he said. "There's nothing wrong with that."
 
Thanks for posting, that is a very interesting article. If my memory serves correct, was it not Eric Seidel when he was with WGST that let Boortz slip through his fingers in the first place?

I do agree with Eric, Denny is just a single market kind of guy . . . And there is nothing wrong with that . . .
 
Something to think about:

1. Denny heads back to Toledo and takes over his old time slot from Brian Wilson. :eek:
2. Brian Wilson takes over Denny's WGST slot and is made the new Program Director. :)
3. Randy Bloomquist is sent packing. :mad: ??? :p

It may not sound all that unreasonable. In fact, something must be in the works for that article to appear in the newspaper. Denny was the big fish in a small pond in Toledo, and sometimes that's not bad. All Denny has to do is to look at Howie Chizek of WNIR in Akron. He's been on that station since 1973 and is an institution in Akron talk radio. Yet, his style of talk would never make it in Atlanta. Not even close to being a major radio market, but he's the Neal Boortz of Akron radio in that he rules the airwaves there.
 
Firebird said:
2. Brian Wilson takes over Denny's WGST slot and is made the new Program Director. :)


Is this the same Brian Wilson that is the cousin of Neal Boorts and did talk radio here in Atlanta many years ago as well as some TV (channel 14?)?
 
It is the same Brian Wilson. When I lived in DC he was doing talk there on WRC and he's also been on WBAL in Baltimore. I heard him on XM too last year and I think he was running a fill-in business.
 
jokerman said:
How do these numbers compare with the Kimmer? How many people listen to the Kimmer's show?

Kimmer is at a 1.3, but he has Rush as lead in instead of Tom Hughes. Combine that with the fact Kimmer has been in the market twenty plus years longer than Denny and you'd have to say Peterson's performance is even more disappointing.
 
jbaxter said:
Kimmer is at a 1.3, but he has Rush as lead in instead of Tom Hughes. Combine that with the fact Kimmer has been in the market twenty plus years longer than Denny and you'd have to say Peterson's performance is even more disappointing.

IMO, Kimmer’s show has been adversely impacted by the loss of Jim Gossett, Pete Davis, and Wayne No Offence.
 
jbaxter said:
jokerman said:
How do these numbers compare with the Kimmer? How many people listen to the Kimmer's show?

Kimmer is at a 1.3, but he has Rush as lead in instead of Tom Hughes. Combine that with the fact Kimmer has been in the market twenty plus years longer than Denny and you'd have to say Peterson's performance is even more disappointing.
Boortz has been on the air since Marconi was alive, but he's got a real station behind him. He has a staff to write his cliff notes, Royal and Belinda to support him, plenty of promotion,etc..

Kimmer has no staff, lost his main comedic contributor, his producer ( if you could call Wayne that ), and very little promotion.

I'm not saying Kimmer's demise isn't his fault, but you could argue that he's not really getting any help, either.

Bring back Mike Rose as PD, lose Denny, put in David Paul ( or even Glenn Beck if you have to go network ) and start the guerilla radio war again. That's how Rose built up WGST in the 90's.
 
evnlee said:
jbaxter said:
jokerman said:
How do these numbers compare with the Kimmer? How many people listen to the Kimmer's show?

Kimmer is at a 1.3, but he has Rush as lead in instead of Tom Hughes. Combine that with the fact Kimmer has been in the market twenty plus years longer than Denny and you'd have to say Peterson's performance is even more disappointing.
Boortz has been on the air since Marconi was alive, but he's got a real station behind him. He has a staff to write his cliff notes, Royal and Belinda to support him, plenty of promotion,etc..

Kimmer has no staff, lost his main comedic contributor, his producer ( if you could call Wayne that ), and very little promotion.

I'm not saying Kimmer's demise isn't his fault, but you could argue that he's not really getting any help, either.

Bring back Mike Rose as PD, lose Denny, put in David Paul ( or even Glenn Beck if you have to go network ) and start the guerilla radio war again. That's how Rose built up WGST in the 90's.


Boy Evan you really dont like wayne.talk about taking every shot you can at him! I am not a huge fan of wayne either but is sounds like sour grapes since he did better in ATl radio than your really bad songs. you content was good but your singing was awful. I tuned out everytime you started singing.... sorry bro. Since mike Rose was your buddy at the other station of course you would want him back. MIKE ROSE dont make me laugh!!!!!
 
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Boy Evan you really dont like wayne.talk about taking every shot you can at him! I am not a huge fan of wayne either but is sounds like sour grapes since he did better in ATl radio than your really bad songs. you content was good but your singing was awful. I tuned out everytime you started singing.... sorry bro. Since mike Rose was your buddy at the other station of course you would want him back. MIKE ROSE dont make me laugh!!!!!
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Thanks for the input!


Come hear my awful singing anytime! I'll be playing with Mudcat this upcoming week at the Northside Tavern ( wednesday ) , and I will be performing at Lafitte's Blacksmith on Bourbon Street ( New Orleans ) with the legendary Johnny Gordon the weekend of the 28th.

Or, you can hear me on any number of cd's from Musicmaker ( www.musicmaker.org), as well as some of the old Kimmer cd's:)

Try to stay out of the sun:)
 
Boortz

To the poster who wondered whether Boortz slipped away from WGST on Eric Seidel's watch. Yep, but Seidel made up for it by hiring Sean Hannity.
 
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