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DePetro Redux for Michael Graham...Grace Ross Attacked Again

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Casablanca

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This morning Michael Graham at about 8:20 AM started attacking the former gubernatorial candidate Grace Ross.

Michael Graham said several times that Grace Ross was an anti-Semite.

Seems that John DePetro was fired from WRKO for less. DePetro referred to Ross's weight and sexual preference and was fired.

Will WTKK do the same to Michael Graham "Crackers".

We can all see that Ross is a rather large woman and she used her sexual preference as part of her campaign. Nothing DePetro said while rude was untrue.

On the other hand, is there any evidence that Grace Ross is an Anti-Semite.

If there is not Graham should follow DePetro and Imus out the one way door.
 
I followed the gubernatorial race closely and never heard a discussion of this discussion. Grace Ross is a radical but does that make her an anti-Semite. And isn't Grace Ross Jewish? I suppose you can be Jewish and anti-Semitic but again John DePetro got FIRED for nothing comparison to Graham's slur.
 
>>Seemingly Graham is basing his statements however on the Green-Rainbow Party's stance on Israel and Palestine:

Awhile back, Graham said the same thing (during DePetro controversy in which he was taken off
permanently). He said something like, "What's really outrageous is nobody is talking about how
anti-Israel she is"
 
The point is that John DePetro got fired for far less. Unless Michael Graham can prove in actual concrete terms that Grace Ross is an anti-Semite he - Michael Graham should be taken OFF the air until this slur can be resolved.

Perhaps, Grace Ross should demand to go on WTKK and or Graham show ASAP.
 
Please stop! Jesus was a Jew and that is enough for me to support Isreal. BTW there would be no Christianity without Judaism.

I have to patience for anti-Semites. But Graham's charge comes out of the blue. Does Graham say the same about that right wing nut and rabid ant-Semite Patrick Buchanan. Seems to me he has been on Graham's show many times without criticism from Graham.

Again, Ross maybe an anti-Semite but Buchanan certainly is and Graham supports him and may have even worked on his presidential campaign.

If so, Michael Graham is more of a hypocrite than one could have imagined.
 
Casablanca said:
Please stop! Jesus was a Jew and that is enough for me to support Isreal. BTW there would be no Christianity without Judaism.

I have to patience for anti-Semites. But Graham's charge comes out of the blue. Does Graham say the same about that right wing nut and rabid ant-Semite Patrick Buchanan. Seems to me he has been on Graham's show many times without criticism from Graham.

Again, Ross maybe an anti-Semite but Buchanan certainly is and Graham supports him and may have even worked on his presidential campaign.

If so, Michael Graham is more of a hypocrite than one could have imagined.
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So you make a post accusing Graham of calling Ross an anti-semite, you're proven wrong, then you throw out the red herring.

Nice work.
 
Oh, how blind is the man who cannot see. If you are unaware of Patrick J. Buchanan's rabid anti-semitism I suggest you do some research. Buchanan makes Jess Jackson look like...well, I better not say but it is safe to say that Jackson's anti-Jewish rants on the past look innocent next to Patrick J's.Moreover, Buchanan has been at the seat of power for such other anti- Jewish haters like Richard "This President Is not A Crook" Nixon.

Again, Michael Graham ran that anti-semite's campaign [ Buchanan's] in South Carolina. You are known by the company you keep and Graham company is anti-semitic.

He should get the same treatment John DePetro got...Show that bigot the door.


TSBench said:
Please stop! Jesus was a Jew and that is enough for me to support Isreal.

That statement only makes sense if you find Israel inseparable from Judaism. And, if that's the case, to be intellectually consistent, you have to consider support for those who would destroy Israel and the Jews within to be anti-semitism.

Ross is a leader in a party which supports actions which would aid those who would destroy Israel and the Jews within, and has personally, and publicly, supported a number of those groups. It's not much of a stretch to therefore consider Ross as anti-Semitic.

As always, if these threads go on long enough, you eventually use your own words to answer your own question, or inadvertently trip yourself up. Sometimes it's hard to tell which.

I have to patience for anti-Semites. But Graham's charge comes out of the blue.

Ahhh...Ross' record isn't exactly a blank slate. What does she have to do, come out and say, "Yeah, I really don't like those Hebrews. Wanna make something of it?"

Does Graham say the same about that right wing nut and rabid ant-Semite Patrick Buchanan.

Just how, exactly, do you know that Buchanan is an anti-Semite. Has he ever said so? Or do you say that based on your interpretation of his positions? I think I've heard this song before, and recently at that.

Regards,
TSB
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Oh, how blind is the man who cannot see. If you are unaware of Patrick J. Buchanan's rabid anti-semitism

I didn't say that Buchanon wasn't anti-Semitic, only that you seem to have no trouble applying a double standard when it came to evidence there of. Buchanan's position on military and financial aid to the Israelis is almost indistinguishable from Green Rainbow's. I don't think you're going to get much mileage out of trying to snow folks who know how to read English.

I suggest you do some research. [/color]

I do. The difference is that I do it before I post.

You are known by the company you keep

You mean like being a major player in a political party which advocates policies which would lead to the destruction of Israel and the Jews within. Yep.

Just wondering, but do you read and remember your own posts? Or is each one an unrelated thought independent of the previous ones?

He should get the same treatment John DePetro got...Show that bigot the door.

Your original rationale for firing Graham was that he recklessly accused Ross of being anti-Semitic. I guess that one is, as they say, no longer operable. Maybe you'll get real lucky and it will be revealed that Graham raises pit bulls for the ring.

To get back to your original point, wouldn't it have been a lot easier just to say
"Hey, you're right. I wasn't aware that Ross supported positions and associated with groups which could well lead a thinking person into believing her to be anti-Semitic."

Instead, billions of electrons had to die excruciating deaths in front of a firing squad of red herrings and strawmen.

Regards.
TSB
 
My point was and is that there is no broadcast evidence that Grace Ross in her run for governor ever spouted anti - Jewish or anti- semitic garbarge. Please provide - date - time - place and an exact quote if such exists.

Don't think I have to repeat that I think Grace Ross's candidacy was
on the extreme fringe, but I do not think the topic of Isreal or the Jews ever came up in the campaign. I did hear some allusions to racial fears expressed by some and that still exists on 96.9. See, Jay Severin's remark, "AXE, the governor."

I heard John DePetro's remark that got him fired and while it might have been rude that is his style, sadly.

This Michael Graham however is another story. Calling someone an anti-semite whether she is a public figure or not is a far more serious charge to make on the public airwaves and one Graham must back up or he too should be fired.
 
Moreover, Michael Graham ran Pat Buchenwold...Buchanan's presidential campaign in South Carolina. Go to the posts in Take It Outside where a poster has noted a page full of Buchanan's anti- semitic, anti- Jewish remarks.

Funny, we haven't heard Michael Graham denounce Patrick Buchanan.
Perhaps, Graham brought up Grace Ross because if she is an anti-semite Michael Graham agrees with her.

He cannot have it both ways - denounce Grace Ross and not denounce Patrick J. Buchanan.

Under those "cracker" crumbs perhaps we will see that Graham is an anti-semite and anti-Jew hater like his friend Pat Buchanan. You are know by the company you keep.

WTKK 96.9 FM should be ashamed to have this anti-semite, anti-Jewish symp on its airwaves.
 
My point was and is that there is no broadcast evidence that Grace Ross in her run for governor ever spouted anti - Jewish or anti- semitic garbarge. Please provide - date - time - place and an exact quote if such exists.

Ummm...so now it has to be 'broadcast' evidence? The incredible moving point strikes again.
I guess yesterday wasn't my day to read minds.

Someone posted the following. In fact, I think it was you....

This morning Michael Graham at about 8:20 AM started attacking the former gubernatorial candidate Grace Ross.....Michael Graham said several times that Grace Ross was an anti-Semite.....Seems that John DePetro was fired from WRKO for less. .....Will WTKK do the same to Michael Graham "Crackers".....On the other hand, is there any evidence that Grace Ross is an Anti-Semite. If there is not Graham should follow DePetro and Imus out the one way door.

So, based on your own criteria, the answer is no, Graham shouldn't be shown the door.

T'was a long way to walk only to find the store was closed.

Regards and so long on this one.
TSB
 
Again, Michael Graham is known by the company he keeps.
Graham ran the South Carolina campaign of that rabid Jew hater and anti-semite, Patrick J. Buchanan (R) Buchenwald and he attacks Grace Ross as an anti-semite.

Maybe, Michael Graham should come out of the closet. Is he really a self hating anti-semite himself. Why else would he have worked for one.





TSBench said:
My point was and is that there is no broadcast evidence that Grace Ross in her run for governor ever spouted anti - Jewish or anti- semitic garbarge. Please provide - date - time - place and an exact quote if such exists.

Ummm...so now it has to be 'broadcast' evidence? The incredible moving point strikes again.
I guess yesterday wasn't my day to read minds.

Someone posted the following. In fact, I think it was you....

This morning Michael Graham at about 8:20 AM started attacking the former gubernatorial candidate Grace Ross.....Michael Graham said several times that Grace Ross was an anti-Semite.....Seems that John DePetro was fired from WRKO for less. .....Will WTKK do the same to Michael Graham "Crackers".....On the other hand, is there any evidence that Grace Ross is an Anti-Semite. If there is not Graham should follow DePetro and Imus out the one way door.

So, based on your own criteria, the answer is no, Graham shouldn't be shown the door.

T'was a long way to walk only to find the store was closed.

Regards and so long on this one.
TSB
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Maybe, Michael Graham should come out of the closet. Is he really a self hating anti-semite himself. Why else would he have worked for one.

Well, if you want to discuss Graham's personal beliefs or employment history, start a thread about them, rather than continuing to beat the dead horse that this one has become. I think the verdict is in on this one, and I don't think, despite your best efforts, that the MEGO factor is working to your advantage.

In that new thread, you could possibly state, and then open for discussion, your views on:

Which personal beliefs, historical, social, or political, spoken or unspoken, you would consider a bar to holding a job as a talk show host.

The 'Thought Police' and your views on laws where expressing unpopular views is a criminal act, such as those in Austria.

The First Amendment, pro and con.

It might make for a spirited debate.

Patrick J. Buchanan (R) Buchenwald

Just to pick a nit for historical accuracy, I don't think Buchanan's problem with the Holocaust concerned the existence of concentration camps, so this would probably be better, and more accurately, stated as Patrick J. Buchanan (R) Treblinka or Chelmno.

Looking forward to that new thread.

Regards,
TSB
 
I agree. Or, at the very least, the mgmt of the radio station should give Ross free airtime to defend herself from the verbal flogging.

Casablanca said:
The point is that John DePetro got fired for far less. Unless Michael Graham can prove in actual concrete terms that Grace Ross is an anti-Semite he - Michael Graham should be taken OFF the air until this slur can be resolved.

Perhaps, Grace Ross should demand to go on WTKK and or Graham show ASAP.
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Casablanca said:
Again, Michael Graham is known by the company he keeps.
Graham ran the South Carolina campaign of that rabid Jew hater and anti-semite, Patrick J. Buchanan (R) Buchenwald and he attacks Grace Ross as an anti-semite.

Maybe, Michael Graham should come out of the closet. Is he really a self hating anti-semite himself. Why else would he have worked for one.
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This is now officially the stupidest topic on this board, and that is quite an accomplishment.

We started with "Graham should be fired for saying Grace Ross is an anti-semite without proof."

We end with "Graham must be an anti-semite! I have no proof! Fire him!"

Does that mean that Casablanca should be fired from this board?

I'm with TSB. Good night, children. Wake me when you've come to your senses.
 
"I agree. Or, at the very least, the mgmt of the radio station should give Ross free airtime to defend herself from the verbal flogging."

Tony, I disagree with the notion that the station "should" give Ross any air time, free or not.

But to your point, Depetro offered to have her on the air. But I can't remember what her response was .....
 
Infidel said:
"I agree. Or, at the very least, the mgmt of the radio station should give Ross free airtime to defend herself from the verbal flogging."

Tony, I disagree with the notion that the station "should" give Ross any air time, free or not.

But to your point, Depetro offered to have her on the air. But I can't remember what her response was .....
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I believe that Ross declined to be on DePetro's show, but I have heard her on Feinburg's show several times, both before and after the election. He said on the air (while she was there) that he'd asked her to do a regular thing with him but she said she was too busy.
 
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