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Derek Stahl Starts at Arizona's Family

So, Derek Stahl is back for the third time anchoring at 4pm and 8pm with Yetta. I haven't caught those newscasts yet. Someone said on FB that Derek was stiff and Yetta wasn't very chatty.

Anyone have any early thoughts on Derek?
 
I'm much more concerned with the content of the newscast rather than the delivery (within bounds of course). I've only seen Derek one time but he seemed like just another talking head to me. And I don't care whether his sidekick is happy or sad. This is a newscast, not a sitcom.
 
Oh, come on! You don't tune in for the batter?!?

Derek was subbing for Jared at 10pm last night. Yetta seemed to be here "normal" self. I guess it was just a random FB comment.
 
It is interesting to me that Yetta continues to fall forward so to speak. My personal opinion is that she's not a great anchor and I'm surprised they continue to have her in the evenings. I feel like she can be awkward and stumbles through things quite often.

Either last night or the night before she was doing a stand-up preview of the next segment after the upcoming break and she's standing there with her phone in her hand, similar to how the weather people hold the clicker. It just seemed unprofessional to me.
 
Unfortunately work and doctoral studies has prevented me from watching much TV. I need to rearrange my priorities!

I missed Stahl starting on Monday. Saw only pieces the rest of the week. He teamed up with Yetta and Jaime Cerreta. Assuming it will take time to develop on-air relationships.
 
Banter is for morning shows. It reminds me of the "happy news" that used to air on the ABC TV outlet (ch 7) in Noo Yawk Sity.

Agreed that banter is more for morning shows. There should be, however, some chemistry between co-anchors. I'm too young to remember Harry Reasoner teaming up with Barbara Walters (1976 - 1978). But from what I've read, they did not work well together. I am old enough to remember Dan Rather teaming up with Connie Chung (1993 - 1995) and there were several reports of them not working well together. I think the public appreciates anchor relationships.
 
Agreed that banter is more for morning shows. There should be, however, some chemistry between co-anchors. I'm too young to remember Harry Reasoner teaming up with Barbara Walters (1976 - 1978). But from what I've read, they did not work well together. I am old enough to remember Dan Rather teaming up with Connie Chung (1993 - 1995) and there were several reports of them not working well together. I think the public appreciates anchor relationships.
IMHO Reasoner was fine. Bawb Wa Wa was a distraction. Much more fitted for a vapid talk show than an anchor desk.

And, IMHO, Rather was fine as well. I didn't think Chung added anything important except perhaps a pretty face.
 
Agreed that banter is more for morning shows. There should be, however, some chemistry between co-anchors. I'm too young to remember Harry Reasoner teaming up with Barbara Walters (1976 - 1978). But from what I've read, they did not work well together. I am old enough to remember Dan Rather teaming up with Connie Chung (1993 - 1995) and there were several reports of them not working well together. I think the public appreciates anchor relationships.
Both Reasoner/Wawa and Rather/Chung were disasters. Sometimes it works, like Huntley and Brinkley, and sometimes it doesn't.

At the local level, it's even worse. For example, in Chicago in the 1970s, WLS-TV had Fahey Flynn and Joel Daly, WBBM-TV had Bill Kurtis and Walter Jacobson, and WMAQ-TV had Floyd Kalber and Jane Pauley. The first two were legendary, while the latter was a complete disaster. Kalber worked alone, and Pauley was forced upon him. Ironically, both ended up on The Today Show later on.

To be fair, the idea of a male/female anchor team was new and rarely tried at the time at any level, and the male, usually middle-aged with a no-nonsense reputation, was the one that complained. Not an issue for decades, nor should it be.
 
Here in Phoenix, we had two legendary news anchors in the 1960s: Bill Close at Channel 10, and Ray Thompson at Channel 12. Both worked alone for many years.

Things changed in the 1970s. Close was paired with Mary Jo West in (I think) 1977, while Thompson was paired with Bob Hughes at 12 in 1973, and Mitch Duncan after he moved to Channel 3 in 1978. Neither pairing worked out all that well. They were old-school journalists and middle-aged men who didn't adapt to the new reality particularly well. They both adapted, but it took several years.
 
Here in Phoenix, we had two legendary news anchors in the 1960s: Bill Close at Channel 10, and Ray Thompson at Channel 12. Both worked alone for many years.

Things changed in the 1970s. Close was paired with Mary Jo West in (I think) 1977, while Thompson was paired with Bob Hughes at 12 in 1973, and Mitch Duncan after he moved to Channel 3 in 1978. Neither pairing worked out all that well. They were old-school journalists and middle-aged men who didn't adapt to the new reality particularly well. They both adapted, but it took several years.
Middle-aged white men?
I've never seen Close, Thompson or Duncan do the news. A quick Google Images search finds Close & Thompson, nothing for Duncan.
I didn't live here for the 'Chicks at 6' pairing of Heidi Foglesong & Patti Kirkpatrick at 3TV in the early 90s. Any thoughts?
 
IIRC, Patti Kirkpatrick earlier had been unceremoniously "let go" by Channel 12. Patti always had a special twinkle in her eyes as she reported the news stories. Kirkpatrick became a very popular news woman in Arizona.
Heidi Fogelsong, in the cobwebs of my mind, was on the morning news at Channel 3, KTVK. Wasn't she?
Maybe I should have done some research before recalling Patti Kirkpatrick / Heidi Fogelsong as a duo on KTVK?
 
IIRC, Patti Kirkpatrick earlier had been unceremoniously "let go" by Channel 12. Patti always had a special twinkle in her eyes as she reported the news stories. Kirkpatrick became a very popular news woman in Arizona.
Heidi Fogelsong, in the cobwebs of my mind, was on the morning news at Channel 3, KTVK. Wasn't she?
Maybe I should have done some research before recalling Patti Kirkpatrick / Heidi Fogelsong as a duo on KTVK?
Heidi F and Cameron Harper were the very popular evening anchor team at NewsChannel 3 in the late 80's/early 90's. I think Cater Lee was Cameron's co-anchor at 5pm. When Patti joined 3 after getting dumped by 12, the pairings were:

5:00 Cameron & Cater
6:00 Heidi & Patti
10:00 Cameron & Heidi

I still remember the silly promo and jingle that pushed the above. I'm sure it still exists somewhere on YouTube. This was all in the final years of KTVK's tenure as an ABC affiliate. They were at the top of their game when ABC pulled the rug out. I believe Cameron and Heidi left before they lost ABC and then Patti became the face of the station.
 
Heidi F and Cameron Harper were the very popular evening anchor team at NewsChannel 3 in the late 80's/early 90's. I think Cater Lee was Cameron's co-anchor at 5pm. When Patti joined 3 after getting dumped by 12, the pairings were:

5:00 Cameron & Cater
6:00 Heidi & Patti
10:00 Cameron & Heidi

I still remember the silly promo and jingle that pushed the above. I'm sure it still exists somewhere on YouTube. This was all in the final years of KTVK's tenure as an ABC affiliate. They were at the top of their game when ABC pulled the rug out. I believe Cameron and Heidi left before they lost ABC and then Patti became the face of the station.
I saw the promo a few years back on youtube -- not sure if it's still there. Believe it or not, I can recite that promo now just from viewing the youtube video. I didn't even live in Phoenix back then. Definitely memorable, if not a bit cringeworthy.

I know that Cameron went to Dallas KTVT 11 as the main evening co-anchor. However, he and the female co-anchor, Midge Hill, did not work well at all. So, I think Cameron went to Memphis after that and finished his career there.
 
Found it! Skip to 11:50. 😁 Lots of other great promos in this montage including one with Heidi and Patti jabbing Patti's old station.


Also I seem to remember Cameron Harper coming back to Phoenix on ABC15 for a very brief period. Maybe I imagined that.
 
Also I seem to remember Cameron Harper coming back to Phoenix on ABC15 for a very brief period. Maybe I imagined that.
He was there for a year or so in the early 2000s. I believe he left over some squabble about a local Emmy nomination, but details are fuzzy now.
 
Found it! Skip to 11:50. 😁 Lots of other great promos in this montage including one with Heidi and Patti jabbing Patti's old station.


Also I seem to remember Cameron Harper coming back to Phoenix on ABC15 for a very brief period. Maybe I imagined that.
You're right. I really didn't follow Harper much after the disastrous Dallas anchor pairing. One night in Dallas, he and Midge literally both read two entire sentences at the same time (I guess neither one wanted to stop talking). It was uncomfortably tense.
 
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