The growth in North Texas is completely suburban. Lots of land to build and hyperbolic demand for lots and houses. Stuff's starting to happen too down south in Ellis County where Midlothian and Waxahachie have 10K lots in the pipeline each. That is the next frontier.
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Good...who wants to live north of the Trinity anyway.
I don't mean to keep the East Side out of the fun either. Rockwall and Kaufman County are booming as well. What I used to know as teensy-weensy Royse City is looking at a second high school. Forney built a second high school a decade ago and now both are 6A.
So far, ****************** has not update its market list. SF is still #4, DFW is still #5. But I guess it will change soon.
As others have said, the San Francisco market has the Pacific Ocean on its west side and SF Bay right through the center of it. To the north of SF, there's Golden Gate National Recreation Area and Muir Woods National Monument, all undeveloped forever. There really isn't much land for new housing except around San Jose and the East Bay.
Meanwhile the Dallas market has nothing but land in all directions. In fact, the two cities, Dallas and Fort Worth, are 32 miles apart. And they have plenty of suburbs in all directions. And that's all part of the DFW market.
As others have said, the San Francisco market has the Pacific Ocean on its west side and SF Bay right through the center of it. To the north of SF, there's Golden Gate National Recreation Area and Muir Woods National Monument, all undeveloped forever. There really isn't much land for new housing except around San Jose and the East Bay.
Meanwhile the Dallas market has nothing but land in all directions. In fact, the two cities, Dallas and Fort Worth, are 32 miles apart. And they have plenty of suburbs in all directions. And that's all part of the DFW market.
But south of San Jose up to Gilroy there is still room for growth, as there is to the north up to Santa Rosa (although the vineyards seem to have a priority in much of that area).
And where they can’t build out, like on the Peninsula, developers and cities try to build up, but they get objections from people who don’t want their view spoiled or just don’t like highrise apartments.
Here's a story about a proposed city of up to 400,000 proposed for the north end of the market.
Silicon Valley billionaires’ Solano County utopia: Prominent conservation group urges opposition
California Forever spent five years secretly buying tens of thousands of acres of ranch land before abruptly sparking an angry uproar among Solano County’s citizenry by filing a $510 million lawsuit against holdout landowners.
www.mercurynews.com
And here's an update saying they've decided to seek a conventional way of getting it approved.
Billionaires’ utopia company California Forever scraps plan for ballot initiative in wake of damning report
California Forever, which spent years buying thousands of acres of farmland near Fairfield, earlier last week issued its own study claiming the new city would create billions of dollars in economic activity and tens of thousands of jobs for…
www.mercurynews.com
Yes I know this place very well this location has to respond to both Bay Area and Sacramento commuters at the same time. However it had to consider other things like national security issues at Travis Air Force Base, environmental concerns like wildfire, earthquake risk, and having to protect the Sacramento Delta and San Pablo Bay at the same time.Here's a story about a proposed city of up to 400,000 proposed for the north end of the market.
Silicon Valley billionaires’ Solano County utopia: Prominent conservation group urges opposition
California Forever spent five years secretly buying tens of thousands of acres of ranch land before abruptly sparking an angry uproar among Solano County’s citizenry by filing a $510 million lawsuit against holdout landowners.
And here's an update saying they've decided to seek a conventional way of getting it approved.
Billionaires’ utopia company California Forever scraps plan for ballot initiative in wake of damning report
California Forever, which spent years buying thousands of acres of farmland near Fairfield, earlier last week issued its own study claiming the new city would create billions of dollars in economic activity and tens of thousands of jobs for…
Nexstar Media Group, Inc. | Contact Us
www.nexstar.tv
Contact Us - Salem Media
salemmedia.com
Salem Sells Former Headquarters, Uses Proceeds To Pay Down Debt.
Salem Media Group is selling the property that served as the company’s headquarters until 2021 for more than $6 million and will use proceeds from the sale to pay down
Another California company will soon call Texas home
The company already has 7,000 employees in the Houston area versus 2,000 in California.
www.khou.com
Verily to relocate its HQ from San Francisco to Dallas
Verily is leaving California for Texan climes. | The Alphabet company once synonymous with Silicon Valley's penchant for moonshot startup projects, Verily will now move its South San Francisco HQ to the "business-friendly" Dallas area, after it simplified its portfolio last year.
Nextstar is in the same building (545 W. John Carpenter Fwy) that the Salem Radio Network used to be in before they moved to the Beltline address. Also KJMZ and KHVN used to be in the Texas Commerce Bank tower.Nexstar Media Group, Inc. | Contact Us
Here's one there are two media companies that have their headquarters in the Dallas area. It's Nexstar and Salem. They have an Irving address. The Salem one is where they sold their Camarillo, California (Ventura County) office and have their main operations in Irving. I seen other articles showing the CEOs and boards offices moving from California to Texas. So far I seen ones from the Bay Area moving their CEO's and boards offices or in some cases some of their operations moving to Austin and Houston in the ones I seen the most.Contact Us - Salem Media
Salem Sells Former Headquarters, Uses Proceeds To Pay Down Debt.
Salem Media Group is selling the property that served as the company’s headquarters until 2021 for more than $6 million and will use proceeds from the sale to pay downwww.insideradio.com
Here is another company that is moving out of the Bay Area and this time specifically to the Dallas area.Another California company will soon call Texas home
The company already has 7,000 employees in the Houston area versus 2,000 in California.Verily to relocate its HQ from San Francisco to Dallas
Verily is leaving California for Texan climes. | The Alphabet company once synonymous with Silicon Valley's penchant for moonshot startup projects, Verily will now move its South San Francisco HQ to the "business-friendly" Dallas area, after it simplified its portfolio last year.www.fiercebiotech.com
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
David, there is a typo on that page. The link for the 2022 map says "2023".
Here's a story about a proposed city of up to 400,000 proposed for the north end of the market.
Silicon Valley billionaires’ Solano County utopia: Prominent conservation group urges opposition
California Forever spent five years secretly buying tens of thousands of acres of ranch land before abruptly sparking an angry uproar among Solano County’s citizenry by filing a $510 million lawsuit against holdout landowners.
That's wild, there's a similar city of similar size in the north end of the DFW market. They're calling it something funny: Selena or something like that.
If one looks at the TV Market Map Dallas, Atlanta and Houston ranks higher than San Francisco. It's interesting to see San Francisco ranked in 10th place in the TV market rankings.
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I don't find it strange, given that the Diablo Mountains cut off the San Francisco/Oakland population center from Sacramento/Stockton and the entire coastal area north is very lightly populated. Compared to the three markets you mentioned, there are relatively fewer households, by a long shot.
Incidentally, those mountains were a factor in why KOVR/13 had to move its transmitter site. Go to the UHF History site and read my article on KCCC-TV if you want to know.
True too this is a partial picture why Solano County is split between two TV Markets.
The reason they can't build out on the Peninsula is that much of that land (the area on the map between I-280 and the coast) is either farmland or watershed deeded to the San Francisco Water Department by turn-of-the-last-century industrial barons, to be left undeveloped in perpetuity. (Gavin used to be mayor of San Francisco, so he is aware of all of this.) The issue with high-rise building is that a significant portion of the land between the Bay and El Camino Real was originally landfill, which doesn't do too well in a temblor -- as in it liquifies. Bad enough with shorter buildings* on it. High-rises would create a nightmare scenario in a big quake. There are actual rational reasons for people resisting certain development proposals, and the builders are likely to be long-gone when the spit hits the sham.
* There has been a significant amount of development in recent years in this corridor, 4-story, 6-story, maybe even 8-story buildings, apartments, condos, offices. But there is significant resistance to taller structures, and as I wrote above, it's not just that people don't want their views to get obscured. They know who wants to pocket the short-term profits without any long-term commitment to dealing with the inevitable aftermath.
Long term since DFW is growing and is now #4, is there a chance that some of the stations that were limited in power might move transmitters to extend their signal to more people. I have been in the area for almost 60 years and know the landscape pretty well. KFXR, though trying to protect I think a station in Indy, their signal doesn't reach where I live in McKinney at night? My company is in Houston and their AM stations have a rough time getting heard any where north of Conroe. I can pick up DFW stations cleared than Houston stations.
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I think we’ve had this discussion in a different thread, but I doubt this will happen. I think your best bet for hearing KFXR in McKinney would be streaming through the iHeart app.
1190 had a golden opportunity to improve their night signal after WOWO got de-clawed. Maintaining that 12-tower directional signal has got to be a bit of a burden.
Regarding the idea of 1190 KFXR upgrading its signal, where would the money come from to justify doing that? It's a station that occasionally manages to surge up to a 0.1 share, so there's not much reason for iHeart to spend money on upgrading or modifying the station's technical facilities. The only way that it would make sense to do anything would be if they could make more money from selling off one (or both) transmitter sites than it would cost to do the engineering work for a facility change.
There's a lot of radio history in the 1190 frequency around here, but in the present day there just isn't much value in it.
There's a lot of radio history in the 1190 frequency around here, but in the present day there just isn't much value in it.
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