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DHT & The State of Dance Music

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saladdressing

Much like DJ Sammy, DHT's single was a horrible track and to those who say "we should take what we can get," I disagree. There are always great things happening at dance, and for mainstream radio to bastardize it by playing these ridiculous covers of 80s hits serves only to make the situation worse.

Unfortunately the "independent promoters" control music in America on a near-payola basis, and until this alters expect no real change, however, if US Top 40 had embraced Freemasons & Infernal like most of the world, things would be different, and the mass populace would be more cultured and better for it.

Why are we thinking that a HD-2 simulcast is a saving grace. Sure it'll be cool for those of us on the fringe who love the music, but this should be bigger than afterthought signals that you need a special adapter to receive, and this is coming from someone who has xm & sirius but believes dance music could and should be as big in the US as hip-hop, country & rock.

In the end, it may very well come back to the element of personality. Dance is largely a faceless genre; this factor more than anything may be the reason for Americans' distaste for it. And if that is truly the case, then just maybe America simply doesn't deserve the wonders of dance music.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by saladdressing on 09/19/05 04:54 AM.</FONT></P>
 
If i'm not mistaken which i am not, Freemasons is a cover as well.....Jackie Moore-This Time Baby

> Much like DJ Sammy, DHT's single was a horrible track and to
> those who say "we should take what we can get," I disagree.
> There are always great things happening at dance, and for
> mainstream radio to bastardize it by playing these
> ridiculous covers of 80s hits serves only to make the
> situation worse.
>
> Unfortunately the "independent promoters" control music in
> America on a near-payola basis, and until this alters expect
> no real change, however, if US Top 40 had embraced
> Freemasons & Infernal like most of the world, things would
> be different, and the mass populace would be more cultured
> and better for it.
>
> Why are we thinking that a HD-2 simulcast is a saving grace.
> Sure it'll be cool for those of us on the fringe who love
> the music, but this should be bigger than afterthought
> signals that you need a special adapter to receive, and this
> is coming from someone who has xm & sirius but believes
> dance music could and should be as big in the US as hip-hop,
> country & rock.
>
> In the end, it may very well come back to the element of
> personality. Dance is largely a faceless genre; this factor
> more than anything may be the reason for Americans' distaste
> for it. And if that is truly the case, then just maybe
> America simply doesn't deserve the wonders of dance music.
>
 
I warned about this direction years ago,and everyone just threw tomatoes at me; well,now we're there! I think my new single, "Dance Floor" could help steer things in the right direction,if given the exposure, to get dance back into the main stream.
http://groups.msn.com/TheWorldChartShow/dancemasterchartmay14.msnw
> If i'm not mistaken which i am not, Freemasons is a cover as
> well.....Jackie Moore-This Time Baby
>
> > Much like DJ Sammy, DHT's single was a horrible track and
> to
> > those who say "we should take what we can get," I
> disagree.
> > There are always great things happening at dance, and for
> > mainstream radio to bastardize it by playing these
> > ridiculous covers of 80s hits serves only to make the
> > situation worse.
> >
> > Unfortunately the "independent promoters" control music in
>
> > America on a near-payola basis, and until this alters
> expect
> > no real change, however, if US Top 40 had embraced
> > Freemasons & Infernal like most of the world, things would
>
> > be different, and the mass populace would be more cultured
>
> > and better for it.
> >
> > Why are we thinking that a HD-2 simulcast is a saving
> grace.
> > Sure it'll be cool for those of us on the fringe who love
>
> > the music, but this should be bigger than afterthought
> > signals that you need a special adapter to receive, and
> this
> > is coming from someone who has xm & sirius but believes
> > dance music could and should be as big in the US as
> hip-hop,
> > country & rock.
> >
> > In the end, it may very well come back to the element of
> > personality. Dance is largely a faceless genre; this
> factor
> > more than anything may be the reason for Americans'
> distaste
> > for it. And if that is truly the case, then just maybe
> > America simply doesn't deserve the wonders of dance music.
>
> >
>
 
> dance music could and should be as big in the US as hip-hop,
> country & rock.

Why isn't polka popular? Polka music could and should be as big in the US as hip-hop, country & rock.

There hasn't been ANY insightful or useful commentary on this subject in a loooooooooong time. Is there any particular reason why you're preaching to the choir?

I also think it's time people quit picking on DHT, DJ Sammy, et al. Why is success in the dance industry regarded as "selling out"? No wonder nothing is mainstream...the entire fan base would disappear the second it became popular because everyone would be selling out.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > dance music could and should be as big in the US as
> hip-hop,
> > country & rock.
>
> Why isn't polka popular? Polka music could and should be as
> big in the US as hip-hop, country & rock.
>
> There hasn't been ANY insightful or useful commentary on
> this subject in a loooooooooong time. Is there any
> particular reason why you're preaching to the choir?
>
> I also think it's time people quit picking on DHT, DJ Sammy,
> et al. Why is success in the dance industry regarded as
> "selling out"? No wonder nothing is mainstream...the entire
> fan base would disappear the second it became popular
> because everyone would be selling out.
>
HIP HOP(Kanye West,R.Kelly,Ying Yang Twins, Jay Z,Ludacris,Usher,etc),ROCK (Green Day,Linkin Park,Coldplay,Foo Fighters),and COUNTRY (Tim McGraw,Kenny Chesney,keith Urban,Toby Kieth,George Strait) are genres dominated by male artists,while DANCE is still diva driven.As a result, a few gals get to enjoy POP/TOP 40 success(Mariah,Gwen, Kelly,none of whom are regarded by America as DANCE artists).DANCE continues to cling to the girly diva thing,which young america does not want to know about, plain and simply.I've been over this in the months and years gone by, America was and is celebrity obsessed,LARGER THAN LIFE stars,and dominiant male figures.Those of us who have tried to inject the "Star",name value factor still don't get support from the dance community,the same community which five minutes later cries into their hankies,"no one LIKES us! BWAHHH! Boo Hoo!
It's no big conspiracy,kids, if radio and retail thought they could draw an audience and make money(as they've done with DHT,based on it's well known cover version status)then they would play these records. Lately, the only dance tracks to cross over are cover versions, which sends the message"we have no material of our own, so the best we can do is rev up songs from 20 years ago, or put a beat behind the new Kelly Clarkson rocker."
Not a pretty picture! each year this conversation rages,and then everyone goes about business as usual, as the dance universe continues to shrink,and shrink,and shrink, and..........
 
> If i'm not mistaken which i am not, Freemasons is a cover as
> well.....Jackie Moore-This Time Baby

Actually its two covers: Both Jackie Moore's "This Time Baby" (Where the song's sample and its opening lyrics "I've Got Love On My Mind" came from) and Tina Turner's "When The Heartbreak Is Over".
 
> > > dance music could and should be as big in the US as
> > hip-hop,
> > > country & rock.
> >
> > Why isn't polka popular? Polka music could and should be
> as
> > big in the US as hip-hop, country & rock.
> >
> > There hasn't been ANY insightful or useful commentary on
> > this subject in a loooooooooong time. Is there any
> > particular reason why you're preaching to the choir?
> >
> > I also think it's time people quit picking on DHT, DJ
> Sammy,
> > et al. Why is success in the dance industry regarded as
> > "selling out"? No wonder nothing is mainstream...the
> entire
> > fan base would disappear the second it became popular
> > because everyone would be selling out.
> >
> HIP HOP(Kanye West,R.Kelly,Ying Yang Twins, Jay
> Z,Ludacris,Usher,etc),ROCK (Green Day,Linkin
> Park,Coldplay,Foo Fighters),and COUNTRY (Tim McGraw,Kenny
> Chesney,keith Urban,Toby Kieth,George Strait) are genres
> dominated by male artists,while DANCE is still diva
> driven.As a result, a few gals get to enjoy POP/TOP 40
> success(Mariah,Gwen, Kelly,none of whom are regarded by
> America as DANCE artists).DANCE continues to cling to the
> girly diva thing,which young america does not want to know
> about, plain and simply.I've been over this in the months
> and years gone by, America was and is celebrity
> obsessed,LARGER THAN LIFE stars,and dominiant male
> figures.Those of us who have tried to inject the "Star",name
> value factor still don't get support from the dance
> community,the same community which five minutes later cries
> into their hankies,"no one LIKES us! BWAHHH! Boo Hoo!
> It's no big conspiracy,kids, if radio and retail thought
> they could draw an audience and make money(as they've done
> with DHT,based on it's well known cover version status)then
> they would play these records. Lately, the only dance tracks
> to cross over are cover versions, which sends the message"we
> have no material of our own, so the best we can do is rev up
> songs from 20 years ago, or put a beat behind the new Kelly
> Clarkson rocker."
> Not a pretty picture! each year this conversation rages,and
> then everyone goes about business as usual, as the dance
> universe continues to shrink,and shrink,and shrink,
> and..........
>
Thats because the U.S dance scene, tends to play only Dance Hits with Female Vocals, with the uplifting sound. If the U.S dance stations played some of the edgier stuff, Male Vocals, and Instrumentals, Rock/Dance hybrids it would not sound that way. Almost all the EUROPEAN Dance Stations are MIXSHOW HEAVY, especially at night, with house as the primary genre played, THERE ARE A FEW TRANCE LEANING ONES, like SUNSHINE LIVE-GERMANY. Their isnt enough underground Dance to appeal to the Hardcore Fans, and usually no Original TOP 40 tracks, to keep the Average listener happy. I blame this on the fact, that U.S Labels, wont support your station, if you play too many imports, so therefore, you get a rather Stale Mix, of female Vocal tracks with Hi Hats, I hate to say it, but its true, the U.S dance scene is bland, compared to what other countries have.
 
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