Before cable become saturated in the early 80's. How did people in the Diablo valley able to picked up tv stations off the air? I don't see any lists of translators around the Diablo Valley. You cannot picked up either San Francisco or Sacramento tv stations very well in these area. How did people manage to or picked up tv in the early days? I'm surprise none of the TV stations in San Francisco or Sacramento thought about having a repeater in the DV area.
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Diablo Valley (Walnut Creek, Concord, Pleasanton)
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e-dawg said:Before cable become saturated in the early 80's. How did people in the Diablo valley able to picked up tv stations off the air? I don't see any lists of translators around the Diablo Valley. You cannot picked up either San Francisco or Sacramento tv stations very well in these area. How did people manage to or picked up tv in the early days? I'm surprise none of the TV stations in San Francisco or Sacramento thought about having a repeater in the DV area.
Cable was around in difficult areas as early as the 40's and 50's. My family as well as all of our neighbors in the Linda Mar area of Pacifica had cable-tv in the late 60's
Michael Rivers Kramer said:e-dawg said:Before cable become saturated in the early 80's. How did people in the Diablo valley able to picked up tv stations off the air? I don't see any lists of translators around the Diablo Valley. You cannot picked up either San Francisco or Sacramento tv stations very well in these area. How did people manage to or picked up tv in the early days? I'm surprise none of the TV stations in San Francisco or Sacramento thought about having a repeater in the DV area.
Cable was around in difficult areas as early as the 40's and 50's. My family as well as all of our neighbors in the Linda Mar area of Pacifica had cable-tv in the late 60's
I grew up in Tujunga - a northern suburb of LA. In the 50s and 60s, we had no cable, and could only get 3 or 4 LA TV stations over the air without ghosts and interference. And that was with a large antenna on a 8 foot pole on our roof. Some stations (9, 11, 13) didn't come in at all. For some reason, the San Diego stations actually came in more clearly, depending on atmospheric conditions.
About 1964, a new large subdivision of at least 100 homes was built deep in a canyon, but the new home owners there couldn't get any TV reception at all. So the developer of the tract started the local cable company to service his residents, and within a year or two, other residents in town were allowed to sign up.
I suspect that's how cable got started in a lot of places.
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Lkeller said:Michael Rivers Kramer said:e-dawg said:Before cable become saturated in the early 80's. How did people in the Diablo valley able to picked up tv stations off the air? I don't see any lists of translators around the Diablo Valley. You cannot picked up either San Francisco or Sacramento tv stations very well in these area. How did people manage to or picked up tv in the early days? I'm surprise none of the TV stations in San Francisco or Sacramento thought about having a repeater in the DV area.
Cable was around in difficult areas as early as the 40's and 50's. My family as well as all of our neighbors in the Linda Mar area of Pacifica had cable-tv in the late 60's
I grew up in Tujunga - a northern suburb of LA. In the 50s and 60s, we had no cable, and could only get 3 or 4 LA TV stations over the air without ghosts and interference. And that was with a large antenna on a 8 foot pole on our roof. Some stations (9, 11, 13) didn't come in at all. For some reason, the San Diego stations actually came in more clearly, depending on atmospheric conditions.
About 1964, a new large subdivision of at least 100 homes was built deep in a canyon, but the new home owners there couldn't get any TV reception at all. So the developer of the tract started the local cable company to service his residents, and within a year or two, other residents in town were allowed to sign up.
I suspect that's how cable got started in a lot of places.
I'm not surprised you had problems in Tujunga. Your situation there is similar to what people close to NYC experienced back in the day. You sat in a sort of 'shadow' from Mount Wilson, just as Hudson County, NJ was in a 'shadow' from the ESB and later WTC. Multipath beyond comprehension! And if your location had a clear shot to the south, the San Diego stations would have been more clear, TV being a 'line of sight' service.
My friends in San Fernando, pre DTV conversion, used to be able to see chs. 6 (XETV Tijuana) and 8 from SD (I forget the calls) regularly with no problems.
What could be done for the Diablo/Tri-Valley area would be to place a new digital transmitter on Mount Diablo and assign it a new channel allocation. On that channel, place 4 total subchannels on it with the 4 big networks (KTVU, KPIX, KGO, KNTV). However bandwidth would be limited so have the main channel and subchannels in 480i or 480p instead. It would not be in HD or anything, but it would allow people in the Tri-Valley area to receive OTA TV from the 4 big networks without having to assign many more channels for something that is essentially a booster.
Michael Rivers Kramer said:e-dawg said:Before cable become saturated in the early 80's. How did people in the Diablo valley able to picked up tv stations off the air? I don't see any lists of translators around the Diablo Valley. You cannot picked up either San Francisco or Sacramento tv stations very well in these area. How did people manage to or picked up tv in the early days? I'm surprise none of the TV stations in San Francisco or Sacramento thought about having a repeater in the DV area.
Cable was around in difficult areas as early as the 40's and 50's. My family as well as all of our neighbors in the Linda Mar area of Pacifica had cable-tv in the late 60's
Though I did not live there then, I recall seeing cable (with both Bay Area and Sacto stations)when visiting friends in Walnut Creek as early as 1969-ish, so I believe they had cable very early on. I grew up on the bay side of the Peninsula, with pretty much line-of-site to San Bruno Mountain, so my parents did not have cable until the early '80s.
Why can't the big 4 networks put up a translator for the Diablo Valley area. You cannot picked up either Sacramento or San Francisco local tv stations. Also, I'm surprised that San Francisco only has 4 low-power tv station in the bay area. KTVJ-LP 20 (Santa Rosa) KAXT-CA 22 (San Jose), KFTL-CA 28 and KMMC-LP 40
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