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Dial Global Satellite System

Anyone else here loosing a lot of sleep due to Dial Global satellite issues?

I have to say, that I posted a complaint here about a year ago which resulted in some good discussions with VPs of Dial Global. I must say that their staff is always attentive to needs, friendly, and do their best. I give them an A+ for customer service, as I realize they are doing their best to deal with a bad situation.

But I must ask the question when do you cut your losses with the Wegener system, and move to the tried and tested XDS system. While the Wegener has some good features, and do sound great, XDS has all the features (programmable channel changes, show shifting with relays, station specific commercial copy splitting) as the Wegener system, and is actually much more flexible with the “netcue” relay setup. The XDS would be much easier on their tech staff as well, as most functions of the system are programmable by the end user.

My opinion of the Wegener receiver units was not high from Day 1. When Dial Global first deployed them, I had a few fail out of the box with bad power supplies or hard drives. These failures still occur often. More often that I would accept if I were Dial Global. DG has to be forking out a ton of money in shipping replacement receivers all the time. Many of these failures in my opinion are due to poor design. Bad ventilation, and too much crap smashed in a 1 rack space unit that is two feet long, and has to be mounted on top of something else to keep it upright in the rack. The unit should have been two rack units high, and shorter. Then bigger fans could have been put in as well. The units run quite warm. I thought they would have figured that out after so many units failed in the first year of service, but even the newer models I’ve seen still have pretty much the same design. The only receiver failure I’ve had with an XDS has been a fan, one ONE unit. That’s it!

Now the system that controls the relays, channel changes, and pretty much all functions of the receiver except the live audio streams themselves, is this COMPEL system which is apparently part of the Wegener system installed at the Denver TOC. It appears failures with this system is what has been causing the numerous relay and control outages over the past year.

Oddly enough, the problems of the past two days may not be related to that system, but it is good to see that Wegener is finally being called on the carpet. I can only highly suggest that Dial Global strongly consider moving to XDS. They have had the top RADAR ratings for several periods now, and I would hope are bringing in some good capitol, so this may be the time to make the move. Now that most services have been moved off of their starguide carrier, I’d suggest that they just replace their starguide system with XDS, deploy receivers out to affiliates of some of the bigger formats and shows, and begin to move services over to that.

Again, it’s hard to ask Dial Global for better response in dealing with the issues caused by this system, but it’s time to cut the losses, make everyone’s life easier and switch to XDS.
 
Well, they have to do something. But I also believe they're having problems with automation as well. I like D-G, but my patience is wearing thin with technical problems.
 
Westwood One went with the International Datacasting MAX Receiver. It works just fine. But compared to the XDS receiver, the MAX is a pile of crap. The user interface is clunky and not easy to program. So DG isn't the only ones who dropped the ball by not using the XDS receiver.
 
Proper relay closures are extremely important with satellite-delivered programming, especially when firing various local liners. Nothing says "nobody home" like a random jock liner in the middle of a song, or a jingle and liner running at the same time.

I agree about the XDS receiver. It's really great at time-shifting news programs, etc. and the ability to make scheduling changes locally. We went through some real issues a while back when requiring the Wegener to change to an alternate feed for certain hours. Finally decided it wasn't worth the effort. And the big deal was that the network had to make the programming changes for us.

We aren't having any problems, however, with one of our Wegeners, which is time-shifting Michael Smerconish to evenings, while running Neal Boortz in the morning at the same time. And the spot break closures seem to be working okay.
 
The Wegeners have great features and capabilities. If they didn't have failures of the receivers and TOC end equipment, it would be a good system. Dial Global has the ability to let the unit's be programmed by the user as well, but the decision was made to lock the end user out and have them call Dial Global to make any programming changes. Not what I would do if it was my decision, but contacting someone there by phone or email is quite easy, and that's never been a problem.

With XDS that's not an option. End user MUST have programming control.

The Westwood One (IDC) Max supposedly has most of the features of the others, but they haven't tried to enable time shifting yet. It does do split copy quite well, and although the user interface for the channel scheduler is clunky, it does work. Thing is built like a tank too. Good hardware. I haven't had ANY of those receivers fail yet.
 
We found that rebooting the MAX every Friday the problem of missing or no relays has been greatly reduced. When it first showed up it took a few weeks to get some major bugs out of it such as stopping it from pounding the network with junk traffic. Plus they didn't have the scheduler running for a long time. Had to lash together the Broadcast Tools to get through the transition from Star Guide.

The Wegener we got seems to be working ok. Plug 'n play.
 
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