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"Dialing for Dollars" -- Was There a Standard Format?

I was thinking about the "Dialing for Dollars" movies that many stations used to show, usually in the afternoons. I wonder if the format was basically the same all over.

In Central Florida, back in the 70's, the scenario was as follows. (I seem to recall this was on WFTV-9.) The on-air host had in front of him a big drum (like used for sweepstakes drawings and such) filled with clipped excerpts of the local phone book. Beside him was a carnival wheel on which the choices were various combinations of numbers and arrows; i.e., "2 down," "4 up" and so forth.

At the start of the show, he would spin the wheel to get the "count." For each segment, he would announce the current jackpot amount, then draw a clipping from the drum. Using the "count" he would count up or down the appropriate number of listings on the clipping -- for example, if the count was "3 down," then he would go to the third listing from the top. I believe if the listing chosen was for a business, he would go down (or up) to the next available residential listing. He would then dial that number and, if someone answered, he would dramatically ask them if they could tell him "the count and the amount." If they answered correctly ("3 down and $377"), they would win that amount. If not, a certain recurring amount was added to the jackpot for the next call. If the dialed number yielded no answer, or a busy signal, or a disconnect recording, then they would just try a different number on the next break. (In other words, they did not attempt more than one call per break, no matter what the outcome.)

Since these calls were put on the air live with no delay (though I'm sure the audio guy always had his finger poised over the mute button, just in case), I'm sure the possibility of something unusual or amusing happening was rife. I don't recall any incidents of people cursing or anything like that, but I do recall that occasionally they would wake somebody up (a night worker or napper) who wasn't too thrilled about the call, or perhaps reach an elderly person or little kid that had no earthly idea what the host was talking about, and probably thought it was a prank call!

What I wonder is:

-- Was the format basically the same in all cities that had these shows?
-- Were any of these shows known by names other than "Dialing for Dollars?"
-- Was the name "Dialing for Dollars" ever trademarked by anyone?
-- Has anyone seen or heard of any amusing incidents regarding these "cold calls?"

Finally, I would imagine that cutting up the new phone book every year was a thankless task, probably assigned to the newest intern at the station. :)
 
KTVU 2 San Francisco had the "Dialing for Dollars Movie" for many years at 1:00 every afternoon. It used exactly the format you describe, and was hosted by an amusing guy named Pat McCormick, who also did the weather for the station's news broadcasts. He was one of those longtime station veteran types who did everything over the years, including afternoon kids' show. By the way, this was a different Pat McCormick than the Tonight Show writer that would do occasional on-air skits with Johnny Carson. As I remember, the show on KTVU finally ended when he retired, maybe 10 or 12 years ago.

In the 60s in Lo Angeles on KCOP 13, there was "Dialing for Dollars" without a movie - just host Alan Sloane talking to the camera for one very long boring hour. But again, it was the same basic format. KCOP apparently did some pioneering early television in the 50s, but by the 60s it was a low budget joke of a station. Speaking of Johnny Carson, he would often make jokes about the shows that were on the other channels, and the final punchline was always what was on "over on Channel 13..."

As far as I know, the name was never copyrighted. I didn't watch often, but I don't remember any amusing incidents. If I remember correctly, by the 80s at KTVU - they would only run the Pat's audio - you couldn't hear the other end of the call. Probably some legal requirement about having permission to put them on air.
 
Lkeller said:
As far as I know, the name was never copyrighted. I didn't watch often, but I don't remember any amusing incidents. If I remember correctly, by the 80s at KTVU - they would only run the Pat's audio - you couldn't hear the other end of the call. Probably some legal requirement about having permission to put them on air.

Now that you mention it, it might be that the same practice was evident at WFTV, and perhaps I only recall those funnier calls from the host's reaction/explanation rather than the phone audio actually being put on the air. In fact, I'm almost certain now that this was the case, although I remember it differently. Then again, many people still believe that they heard Uncle Don saying something nasty to the little kiddies... (http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/radio/bastards.asp) ;)

But your mention of the 80's also makes me wonder -- are they still any stations that do "D for D?" ANd if not, what were some of the last holdouts that still ran it?
 
Lkeller said:
Well, I guess there's a blog for everything now. I found this RE: Dialing for Dollars.

http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/lofiversion/index.php/t3494.html

According to one poster, it was a franchise from Bert Claster Productions, originators of Romper Room. So I guess that like Romper Room, local markets would buy local rights to the franchise, and develop their own broadcast.

Wow, so it really was a sort of "standardized" format, much as how most "Romper Room" incarnations looked pretty much the same, save for a different host. I wonder if the specific movies were part of the package, too, or left to local discretion. (Or maybe they had a list of "approved" movies to go with the DFD wraparound segments.)

Sort of related, but Channel 38 in St. Pete used to have a weekend movie show with a male and female host. It wasn't a DFD format, but they had prize money that they would give away, I believe, to the first person who called in after a "bug" or icon was supered on-screen. Once, the host was at his cynical best when reading a letter from someone who was complaining about the quality of the movies, and he said something like, "You know, you don't seem to understand -- it's not about the movies, it's about the money. Nobody cares about the movies -- they're just waiting by that phone to call in and win. We could run 'Plan 9 From Outer Space' -- backwards -- and no one would care." :D
 
The Dialing for Dollars format was the same at WMAR-TV in Baltimore. It was also broadcast at the same time on WCBM radio.
 
Lkeller said:
I didn't watch [the KTVU/2 Oakland version] often, but I don't remember any amusing incidents. If I remember correctly, by the 80s at KTVU - they would only run the Pat's audio - you couldn't hear the other end of the call. Probably some legal requirement about having permission to put them on air.

...in both Green Bay/Escanaba (WJMN/3 and WFRV/5) and Milwaukee (WISN-TV/12), the people called were put on the air. The two versions used different formats -- in Milwaukee, it was the "number up or down" and dollar amount, while Green bay used the dollar amount and the name of an NBC program that was scheduled to air that night (or that weekend in the case of the Friday broadcast). The latter led to an interesting situation that I still recall for some reason -- the contestant guessed "Daniel Boone" was the show, but in fact it was "The Flip Wilson Show" (which had just replaced "Daniel Boone" on the NBC Thursday schedule). It also led to confusion if either version called someone in Sheboygan or Fond du Lac Counties, where the signals of both WFRV and WISN-TV overlap. There were times when someone would be watching Bill Cole or Terry Ruggles out of Green Bay, and they'd give Howard & Rosemary Gernette in Milwaukee an NBC show title as the answer (WISN-TV was affiliated with either CBS or ABC during the Milwaukee run). The basic format of the program itself was pretty much the same on both stations -- a noon-hour chat show with the game played every ten minutes or so...
 
In the late 1950's and early 60's WAVY-TV (Portsmouth/Norfolk,Va.) had that format,and it aired at 1:00 PM and was hosted by WAVY Radio DJ/WAVY-TV Weatherman Kurt Webster......."The good old days"
 
KUSA Channel 9 here in Denver I believe still does what they call CASH QUIZ on their 4:00 news. What they do is they give you a word or phrase that pertains either to a show or news item, then they call and if you know the answer you win, they also tell you sometimes to write down the answers for all 5 days then on friday if they call you and you know all the answers in order, you win the big jackpot, which I believe is $1,000. I remember back in the day they would tell you the exchange they were calling and they would use those goofy princess phones first with rotary dial, then eventually push button. You could always here the "host" dial on the air, either clunk clunk for the dial, or beep,beep,beep for push button
 
WGHRADIO said:
In the late 1950's and early 60's WAVY-TV (Portsmouth/Norfolk,Va.) had that format,and it aired at 1:00 PM and was hosted by WAVY Radio DJ/WAVY-TV Weatherman Kurt Webster......."The good old days"
WAVY did one thing differently in the late '60s. When I moved
to Hampton Roads in late 1966, Channel 10 had a show called
"Compass With Dialing For Dollars" from 9-10 AM. In the "Dialing
for Dollars" segments, when people were called they had to give
the "count, amount, and direction (north, south, east, or west,
determined by a spin of the wheel)." That's the only variation
I ever saw from WFTV's, and I got "Dialing For Dollars" on Channel
7 in Spartanburg, SC; Channel 6 in Birmingham; and Channel 10
in Tampa/St. Petersburg.

BTW, "Bowling For Dollars" was also franchised by Bert Claster.
 
DFD was still airing on WHMA-TV 40 (now WJSU) in Anniston, Ala. as late as 1985. The segment ran just prior to their 6 PM newscast.

Another station where the franchise ran for many years was WHBQ-13 in Memphis ... their "Dialing for Dollars Movie" aired from 9-11 AM during much of the '70s. I think Dave Brown presided until he defected to WMC-5.

--Russell
 
The Dialing for Dollars format was the same at WMAR-TV in Baltimore. It was also broadcast at the same time on WCBM radio.
Bet that was some exciting radio...

We got DFD on Channel 15 in Fort Wayne, with Dave King. I knew it had to air elsewhere, just because of the Janis Joplin song "Oh Lord, Won't You Buy Me A Mercedes-Benz". Did any local stations ever have the Bonus Dial? There would be another big dial on the wall, only instead of numbers, it had pictures of current prime-time stars (CBS, in this case), and if you landed on, say, Mike Connors, you got more $$. (Come on, he got pistolwhipped every week...He could handle you landing on him.) As for the actual movies, there were some A-listers, but also a lot of Ma & Pa Kettle, Bomba The Jungle Boy, Blondie, and Francis The Talking Mule flicks. So, since this was syndicated through one company, was the dialing music the same everywhere? 'Cause now, it's runnin' through my head.
 
WSYR-TV (now WSTM) in Syracuse had dialing for dollars in the late 60's and 70s. I don't know when it was discontinued.

Their's ran at various times throughout the day, and the various program hosts would do it.

For example, once during during "Ladies Day" at 9:00 a.m., with host Kay Russell; Then during the Denny Sullivan show, then Ed Murphy would dial a few times during "Hollywood Matinee". The hosts never looked like they enjoyed doing it. There's nothing like a one-sided phone call, with someone unfamiliar with the format, to really drag down a TV show.

We got called once at home. We won only a dollar, because we didn't know "the count, and the amount".
 
KCRG, Cedar Rapids, did it the same way back in the late 60s, early 70s... chopped up phone books, count and amount, up and down arrows. They did it in a 3:30 movie. For awhile they had a separate D-for-D with it's own amount in the morning, a couple of calls during Jack LaLanne and something else 8:30-9:30 am.
 
Ed Miller hosted the Boston version of "DFD"(which was done during breaks in the afternoon movie) on the then WNAC, channel 7.
 
I think I mentioned once that WLOS/13 Greenville/
Spartanburg/Asheville had their own variation on
DFD in the late '60s/early '70s. It was called "The
Money Man," with the station's weathercaster,
Bob Caldwell. In order to win you had to tell him
how much was in the jackpot and name the show
or star of the day. "Money Man" was played three
times between 4:30 and 6: twice during "Perry Mason"
and once during the 5:30 news (ABC News aired at 6).
With their system of translators, WLOS got into six states
(North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, and
Kentucky), and I remember one occasion when Caldwell
placed a call to Middlesboro, KY (don't remember if the
person won, I don't think they were home).
 
WLBZ 2 (NBC) in Bangor, Maine ran DFD from the mid 60's to the late 70's. It was hosted by Eddie Driscoll who passed away last year from complications of Alzheimer's. He was a very entertaining man. He had to be! Our version until around '75 or '76 was a one camera affair focused on Eddie who would do what everyone has stated. The cut up phone books, a count (pre-determined) before the show started and the dollar amount which went started at a very low amount (I think it was the multiple of what they went up on) which was $3.00 in the beginning and later $5.00. The jackpot went up each time they connected with someone who didn't know the count and the amount. We didn't hear the person on the other end of the phone. And Eddie read a lot of annoucements about "bean supp-ahs"! And it aired twice a day! 9:30 a.m and 1:00 p.m.. Later, I remember reruns of "The Flintstones" taking over the 1 p.m. slot.

In the mid 70's "DFD" was cancelled but almost the same format was used for "The Great Money Movie" which aired at 4 p.m. for two hours. Two secret words were superimposed on the screen during the movie and Eddie would call someone who had sent in their name and phone numbers on a postcard. The movies were made into theme weeks like Blondie, Abbott and Costello, the beach movies with Frankie and Annette, the Road movies with Crosby, Hope and Lamour. Toward the end, we had weeks of shows made up of two episodes. Spiderman and Buck Rogers comes to mind.
 
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