While listening to the LSU-North Texas blow out, I have the chance to listen the game from 5 different stations ( 6 at night). but I noticed something about the broadcast on WWL AM/FM. I know that WWL-AM has a 5 second delay from real time, but WWL-FM has a 10 second delay( For example using 3 different radios I can hear a play on Radio 1 that is tuned to KCIL-107.5; radio 2 tuned to 870 same play 5sec later; radio 3 on 105.3 - 5sec after radio 2). Could someone who works at WWL please explain to me why the 5 second difference between the two WWL's
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Brewster is right. It's done on purpose to keep the HD signal and analog signal in sync with each other as the radio looses HD you won't notice the switch as you would on if the signals were fed in real time
Apparently KCIL is live feed, WWL-AM is 5 second delay either to keep sync with TV and/or content button and WWL-FM as Brewster explained.
Analog and digital TV is the same way.. there is a few seconds delay on a OTA DTV signal compared to a Analog signal I've found on numerous occasions.
All I got to say is I want to see the amok come February 17,2009 as many cable companies outside major metro areas receive the local TV stations off the air from 100 foot towers and TV antennas aimed at the transmitters and last I looked, most were still picking up the analog feeds
RFLA
Apparently KCIL is live feed, WWL-AM is 5 second delay either to keep sync with TV and/or content button and WWL-FM as Brewster explained.
Analog and digital TV is the same way.. there is a few seconds delay on a OTA DTV signal compared to a Analog signal I've found on numerous occasions.
All I got to say is I want to see the amok come February 17,2009 as many cable companies outside major metro areas receive the local TV stations off the air from 100 foot towers and TV antennas aimed at the transmitters and last I looked, most were still picking up the analog feeds
RFLA
I agree that Feb 17 will be most interesting. From being forced to watch TV OTA analog and digital from 12:04pm the day of the storm, through to just yesterday (hello Cable, we missed thee), I think more problems may come from the TV stations keeping their digital transmitters on the air as reliably as they do their current analog boxes.
I was paying attention to populating the radio on/off-air list, but from what I recall seeing WAFB 9 was the only TV facility who broadcast in over-the-air digital HD without interruption. I still can't find WLPB 27's digital carrier with either antenna.
No disrespect meant to our TV engineering brethren. Their's is a skillset way beyond my radio-pay grade. I'm just sayin' that after 50 years of development, you have to try very hard to take an analog TV transmitter of the air completely cold, if anything due to lots of redundancy and old transmitters still laying around.
Now, lemme see if I can find my HD Radio to see if any of those carriers are on/off.
I was paying attention to populating the radio on/off-air list, but from what I recall seeing WAFB 9 was the only TV facility who broadcast in over-the-air digital HD without interruption. I still can't find WLPB 27's digital carrier with either antenna.
No disrespect meant to our TV engineering brethren. Their's is a skillset way beyond my radio-pay grade. I'm just sayin' that after 50 years of development, you have to try very hard to take an analog TV transmitter of the air completely cold, if anything due to lots of redundancy and old transmitters still laying around.
Now, lemme see if I can find my HD Radio to see if any of those carriers are on/off.
The ones who are moving to their Digital assignments such as WBRZ do a great job whereas the ones who are moving back to the assigned frequency don't care as much I find.
However I think it won't be until 2009 Hurricane season or at least unless North Carolina gets a major hurricane the next couple of months (the first city to go all digital (except the PBS station for "emergency purposes") is Wilmington,NC) until a natural disaster proves that a gradual turn off is needed .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington,_North_Carolina#Television_stations
Come 2009, when most break out the old cheap tvs and get snow is what I'm waiting for as then you will see people cause an uproar on that
However I think it won't be until 2009 Hurricane season or at least unless North Carolina gets a major hurricane the next couple of months (the first city to go all digital (except the PBS station for "emergency purposes") is Wilmington,NC) until a natural disaster proves that a gradual turn off is needed .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington,_North_Carolina#Television_stations
Come 2009, when most break out the old cheap tvs and get snow is what I'm waiting for as then you will see people cause an uproar on that
Its alrady been discussed that some TV stations are planning on LMAing LPTV stations to keep an analog signal present for as long as possible ( as no sunset date has been set for LPTV an Class A stations).
Has anyone thought about a handheld, reliable, battery powered ATSC TV? I have a wonderful RCA analog 3" TV that I rely on in storm/power out situations. It's going to go useless in Feb 2009. What do I take to my basement when the sirens go off in March 2009? I guess I'll have to rig a storm proof out door antenna, a car battery with an adapter, and a 37" ATSC TV in the basement. Shouldn't be much of a problem for the average Joe. Hey... maybe I can make a living setting this stuff up for Joe Average!
RadeoEngineer said:
Almost as bad... wowsa. look at that price !!!
http://www.lcddigital.tv/7_tv_digital.html
Currently WUPL is on analog, digital, and LPTV in New Orleans (the only one doing all three)
So looks like we may luck in New Orleans but others I've heard will basically try to stay on or fade away with a few of the class As actually having Cps in place to upgrade to Digital Class As (apparently I had to same wrong info as many class As and LPTVs I found filed for digital permits)
My guess is many of the communities in the western states filed grevences with the FCC helping delay Lower power DTV flip as many locations get affliates off of translators owned by the local governments who can't afford to do an upgrade
RFLA
So looks like we may luck in New Orleans but others I've heard will basically try to stay on or fade away with a few of the class As actually having Cps in place to upgrade to Digital Class As (apparently I had to same wrong info as many class As and LPTVs I found filed for digital permits)
My guess is many of the communities in the western states filed grevences with the FCC helping delay Lower power DTV flip as many locations get affliates off of translators owned by the local governments who can't afford to do an upgrade
RFLA
Sence the topic of discussion went from radio to D-TV Let me throw this one out. Will the stations petition the FCC to raise the digital sigal power to match the coverage of their old analog transmitter or was that guranteed at the switch date so the out of city communties like for example Houma, Grand Isle, Boothville-Venice, and Morgan City can receive ota after the cable goes out.
According to the FCC, The digital signal is to provide a same signal pattern at least as the stations Analog signal in 1997 (or first sign on if after 1997).
Many stations currently in digital plan on going back to their old assigned frequencies so it's hard to find out, but from personal experience, it will be way harder to catch a digital signal than a analog that would be acceptable to people (as most will watch thru white noise for a hurricane, digital is either here, pixelated or gone)
Houma is supposed to be covered, boothville/venice and grand isle will be at the end and need powerful antennas as usual and Morgan City gets service from Baton Rouge.. however with powerful antennas it should reach Lafayette, baton rouge and possibly New Orleans (as all New Orleans channels are on Allen's Cable)
Many stations currently in digital plan on going back to their old assigned frequencies so it's hard to find out, but from personal experience, it will be way harder to catch a digital signal than a analog that would be acceptable to people (as most will watch thru white noise for a hurricane, digital is either here, pixelated or gone)
Houma is supposed to be covered, boothville/venice and grand isle will be at the end and need powerful antennas as usual and Morgan City gets service from Baton Rouge.. however with powerful antennas it should reach Lafayette, baton rouge and possibly New Orleans (as all New Orleans channels are on Allen's Cable)
Getting back to WWL, during primetime TV tonight, WWL radio bought airtime on WVUE to tout the fact they are local and caring about the issues with the various talkers shown thoughout the commercial
What's every opinion on the new campaign they are trying to launch against 99.5 "Rush" radio?
What's every opinion on the new campaign they are trying to launch against 99.5 "Rush" radio?
That WWL spot has been on since Rush changed hands. I don't think it's effective and Rush/Hannity are beating the end of Garland and the Spud Show. The Del Giorno/Monica Pierre show is unlistenable (but, even so, the Castner/Wallensky show on RNO is worse).
RNO has made some advertising inroads though, and they are making money.
If RNO had a decent AM and PM Show, they might topple WWL. 'Til then, and since it's LSU/Saints season, WWL will stay on top.
RNO has made some advertising inroads though, and they are making money.
If RNO had a decent AM and PM Show, they might topple WWL. 'Til then, and since it's LSU/Saints season, WWL will stay on top.
The Example I should have used was WLAE. The analog on 32 will reach past Grand Isle / Port Fourchon, but the digital on channel 31 barely reaches Galliano. My Question would be If they or other stations go back to their origional channels will the fcc allow the increase? I can see the reason for low power on 31 because of KLAX-31 in Alexandria.
With all the talk about WRNO gaining in numbers against WWL I find it odd that CC didn't take one of their am stations and simulcast WRNO instead of WYLD-AM and WODT compete against each other for the gospel market.
With all the talk about WRNO gaining in numbers against WWL I find it odd that CC didn't take one of their am stations and simulcast WRNO instead of WYLD-AM and WODT compete against each other for the gospel market.
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I noticed the directional circumference of the Analog signal were powered into high gear using the New GF 345 mixer driver. You can crank up the signal according to the New FCC regulations whenever i'm on the air.While it can over drive your modular syntax levels I found it useful .It requires ( very expensive) a Lexapro 234 B series mind blower.
Kind like Frank Zappa doing a Yankee game. THis techical stuff snaps my brain so i leave it to the pros....all i know is three....two ..one..." your on the air !"
Thank God for you folks that know all about this stuff...I just use a good cup of Java a cigar and some tight undies to keep my energy cookin !
God Bless the tech Wizards ! Without em we're all dead !!
Drinks are on me !
Kind like Frank Zappa doing a Yankee game. THis techical stuff snaps my brain so i leave it to the pros....all i know is three....two ..one..." your on the air !"
Thank God for you folks that know all about this stuff...I just use a good cup of Java a cigar and some tight undies to keep my energy cookin !
God Bless the tech Wizards ! Without em we're all dead !!
Drinks are on me !
gjroussejr said:
Probably for whatever reason Limbaugh was pulled off WWL-FM after a while - unless that was CC/Premiere trying to protect WRNO at the time.
Truth, adding a AM simulcast doesn't really cover any gaps in WRNO's signal, which would be the reason I would do something like that.
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