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Did KLEB-AM Up Its Power?

Does anyone know if KLEB, Golden Meadow upped its power or changed its transmitter location? The little peanut-whistle Part 15 college station of which I'm faculty adviser (on 1610 kHz) is now getting trounced by splatter from KLEB on 1600. We used to get about 1.5 mile range with 100 mW, but now I can be 100 feet away and all I hear is adjacent channel interference from 1600 kHz. As a Part 15 station, we have no recourse except to change frequency. I mean, KLEB was always receivable in the New Orleans area, but now it sounds like it is in New Orleans!
 
I don't think the 7500 watts ever got built out

It couldn't leave the Golden Meadow city grade area as it was the only station there until 2011 since what is now WTIX filed and was moved to Galliano.

But not sure as I know most of the signal should be aimed out toward Venice or so, as the original station I used to hear perfect in Houma, and now don't hear too well.
 
Soundesigner :
I though this would happen when Truck fixed KLEB. The station was off air since September. My guess he acted on the cp before it expired and rebult the transmitter, or installed a new one. Because you are a part 15 station are you restricted to where you move, or can you settle on any open frequency.

RFLA:
I forgot to mention in the e mail I sent you. WTIX's col has always been Galliano since it was KZZQ-FM around 1978-1980
 
gjroussejr said:
Soundesigner :
Because you are a part 15 station are you restricted to where you move, or can you settle on any open frequency.
Yeah...I know... doesn't make the situation suck any less! ;)
Thanks for the info about KLEB's change of situation. I used to listen to 'em when I was a kid and could generally hear the station in the NOLA area pretty well, except for the last year or two. I just assumed that like a lot of broadcasters, they weren't focusing on the AM as much as before. One of the reasons we chose 1610 for our campus station was that KLEB wasn't too strong any more; that, and there are no U.S. broadcasters there and the Causeway TIS had long moved up the band. Our AM options are somewhat limited: we want to stay high in the band to optimize coverage while using 0.01W and a 3 meter radiator, but the Port of New Orleans "owns" 1630, 1650, 1660, 1670, and 1690 with their very odd truck "talk-in" station. I think they're really only using two of those freqs., but I would hate to move to what I thought was a blank channel, only to have their creepy automated voice knock us out. Meanwhile, St. Bernard Parish has a TIS on 1680, and the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway is on 1700. 1620 has a Penacola station which is receivable locally (though weak), and 1640 has WTMI, Biloxi which is quite clear here. This pretty well sews up the "extended" band. Guess our options are: check with the Port of N.O. and see what their plans are re: their flood o' frequencies, move to 1620 and put up with minor interference from the Pensacola station, or look for a frequency down the band. Whatever we do, I would like it to "stick" since we're going to try and set up Part 15 AM transmitters at our other campuses and relay our Internet stream.

I'll keep exploring options, but in the meantime thanks again!
 
gjroussejr said:
Another Option, although unlikely and expensive ,would be to get the board at delgado to buy WBYU from Disney.
I would love that option, but with budgets for virtually everything frozen, that's not going to happen unless we get a rich uncle or Disney wants a tax write-off! ;)
 
Soundesinger; at least you get a clear signal for a couple of days. KLEB got a new bug in the transmitter, so they will be off the air till the repair is made
 
I noticed! Karma for splattering on our tiny signal? Our range was back up to 1.5 miles! We'll enjoy it while we can.
 
poledo said:
Why not try 1710 AM?
That's possible, although the Causeway TIS is pretty strong on 1700. Also, the field strength rules are slightly different for operation above 1705 kHz; not so much that it matters, but still more complicated. I imagine, though, that we'd get a small amount more efficiency for our inefficient radiator at that frequency.

In the meantime, KLEB is still off air and I've been able to hear our signal back to our previous limits. We're going to hang in for the time being where we are.

Thanks for the suggestion!
 
Soundesinger;
Bad news KLEB is back on after more repairs. I'm not sure on the rule for part 15 stations, but could you settle down the dial around 540Khz?
 
Yeah, I know...I heard 'em splattering all over today! :p Really can't move down to the lower end of the band because a 9 foot antenna is inefficient enough on the high end of the dial. I'm going to try and talk with the Port of N.O. and see if they're using all the frequencies they're licensed for in the extended AM band. Meanwhile, Clear Channel's new 96.3 MHz translator forced us up the FM band. Part 15 ain't for the faint of heart!
 
gjroussejr said:
what frequency on fm did you settle on ???
98.9 MHz
WUUU in Franklinton is about 60 miles away, so they're not interfering with us (and our 200 ft. range sure won't interfere with them). They had a CP for 25 KW, but it looks like that expired. Even then, their outer fringe coverage wouldn't make it our location.

American Family has had an application for a 100 W translator for Houma since 2003, but even if that ever goes on the air, I don't think we'll have any problem.

The best of all solutions would be for a LPFM window to open for the New Orleans area, but I'm not holding my breath!
 
I occasionally pick up KLEB 1600 in the Jackson, MS area at night. On a few nights I've left the radio on all night and never lost it. I'm surprised that 250 watts is getting out that far, but since it is at the top of the band, those station ted to skip more. I have picked up 1590 in Jackson, MS at night when visiting N.O. with 1000 watts so it may be possible with 250 watts. 1600 was quite loud a few nights ago. WZRX 1590 in Jackson is no longer on the air so there is no splatter.
 
If you can invest in another antenna, I would. The high end of the band does not travel as far as the low or even the middle. Use the old 730 and I bet you could get 2.5 miles unless KKNO jumps on you. Though with only 250 watts and 2 channels away, I wouldn't worry too much.
 
thegulfcoast said:
If you can invest in another antenna, I would. The high end of the band does not travel as far as the low or even the middle. Use the old 730 and I bet you could get 2.5 miles unless KKNO jumps on you. Though with only 250 watts and 2 channels away, I wouldn't worry too much.
Well, the problem is that Part 15 requires a maximum antenna length of 3 meters (just under 10 feet). At any medium wave broadcast frequency that makes for an exceptionally inefficient radiator, but more so at lower frequencies. At the upper end of the band, at least the slightly shorter wavelengths make for a little bit better efficiency and thus better range. I like the suggestion of 730 though and I doubt KKNO would give us any grief if we were to move down the band. I'm going to keep this in mind.
To see our massive base-loaded antenna system:
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa474/k5iq/?action=view&current=100_0154.jpg

and to put its size into perspective go here:

http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa474/k5iq/?action=view&current=100_0155.jpg
 
I would highly encourage you to contact Biloxi High School sometime. They were granted an odd special permission from the FCC to broadcast at 12 watts on the FM at a height of 75 feet HAAT. It doesn't give them more than 2 miles on the rare occasion they use it, but it does the trick. I don't think that they have used it in a while though and it's only for special events even though they can go 24 hours. There is no record of it in the FCC's database but they do have something in writting at the school. PM me and I'll give you the teacher over the department's number.
 
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