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Did Nash FM Make the Correct Call Not Playing George Jones?

George Jones, who passed away a bit over a week ago, was widely considered one of the finest country singers. Though his personal life was certainly no role model, it was tailor made for autobiographical country music songs. His singing style was a big influence on many country stars who followed, such as Alan Jackson.
According to David Hinckley's radio column, Nash FM announced his passing and "Played some tributes from other artists." But they did not break format to air even one song sung by Jones.
I get it that Jones has not had a big radio hit in decades, and that many of Nash's young listeners probably never heard of him.
Hinckley wrote. "WNSH is being developed as the flagship for a national network with a modern sound: Blake Shelton, Carrie Underwood, Lady Antebellum and so forth. So even if many listeners to a country station love George Jones, WNSH would not play anything, and certainly not multiple anythings, that go off-brand. While that may frustrate some listeners, it’s just the way radio is programmed today."
With all that being said, I find it hard to understand that playing a couple of his songs would irreparably tarnish the station's new country image.
Even younger listeners may have found it interesting to hear just a bit of music from an earlier era in country music.
Perhaps if Nash had a morning show, some Jones would have been played, as there may have been more liberty to occasionally go off format.

Daily News Article: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...erved-country-article-1.1330367#ixzz2SQLcn9hh
 
They played short song excerpts for several days, pretty much what most hot country stations did. Which was more than most hot country stations did when Johnny Cash died ten years ago. Playing a couple of his songs serves no purpose at all.
 
TheBigA said:
They played short song excerpts for several days, pretty much what most hot country stations did. Which was more than most hot country stations did when Johnny Cash died ten years ago. Playing a couple of his songs serves no purpose at all.

I agree. Personally I hate tributes. Nothing against any particular artist, but where do you draw the line? Which artists should get a tribute, how many songs should be played, for how long should the tribute last? If a station does not normally play that artist then I think it's best to avoid any tributes. It reminds me of a few years ago when Michael Jackson died. All of a sudden stations like PLJ (who would never normally play MJ's music), were coming out of the woodwork and playing non-stop MJ. I just found it to be overdone.
 
I wish Nash-FM would air a Country Gold specialty show on the weekend. I remember that Steve Warren did such a show on WYNY back in the 90s. I guess the issue of demographics rears its ugly head again.

Bruce
 
From another direction :
We were listening to this internet station called Oldies Your Way yesterday afternoon. The show was called Country Mix.
I prefer the traditional C&W (Jones included), and the show on OYW certainly plays a lot of that.
(The show is hosted by a fellow living in, of all places, Wales!)

Thing was, he spun a few of the modern ones in the mix which turned me off somewhat by comparison to the older ones because of their sameness, their lengths and their sonics. The lyrics to two songs -- no doubt clever -- were almost inaudible.
Aside from the fact that what was expressed in each of the newer ones, musically and lyrically, could have been completed in 3:00 instead of 4:00 : the songs were mixed with what has to be standard-issue studio settings. Every individual meter on the WinAmp's EQ bar was blasting.

The sub-theory here is that the younger listeners (raised on the new sonics) might be put off by the sonics of an older tune the way I was with some of the newer forms.
'Form', might be more accurate. Every release has to sound like a rural version of the group Boston, on steroids.
 
Country Gold still runs on the weekend now manned by Rowdy Yates. Been a while since I caught it here in Houston. I was working the board a station in Corpus Christi that aired it on Saturday nights.. Back then it was Big John Howell hosting. Good show and I'm not a big fan of country music but I learned a lot of history from that show. That's where I gained my respect for the music (the old stuff). Also realized it is actually the basis for rock
 
Most under 40, especially in NYC, don't know who George Jones is.

Why play a handful of songs that will stick out, even if the guy died. It doesn't fit the format.
 
Between the horrible audio, poor signal and female oriented lite rock they call country these days, NASH is unlistenable.

I can listen to country music from 20s all the way up to the late 90s. What we have today is garbage spun as country. George Jones even said today's Country should not be called country.
George Jones was long before my time but his music still sounds new to me and far superior to this feminized garbage on NASH.
 
mikerock said:
Between the horrible audio, poor signal and female oriented lite rock they call country these days, NASH is unlistenable.

I can listen to country music from 20s all the way up to the late 90s. What we have today is garbage spun as country. George Jones even said today's Country should not be called country.
George Jones was long before my time but his music still sounds new to me and far superior to this feminized garbage on NASH.

Like it or not, country is the most popular format today with the most radio stations because of the artists of today. Not folks like George Jones or Johnny Cash. If you pre-Garth with maybe an exception for Alabama, you have no relevancy to today's country audience. Nash made the right call on this one.
 
Seltzer said:
mikerock said:
Between the horrible audio, poor signal and female oriented lite rock they call country these days, NASH is unlistenable.

I can listen to country music from 20s all the way up to the late 90s. What we have today is garbage spun as country. George Jones even said today's Country should not be called country.
George Jones was long before my time but his music still sounds new to me and far superior to this feminized garbage on NASH.

Like it or not, country is the most popular format today with the most radio stations because of the artists of today. Not folks like George Jones or Johnny Cash. If you pre-Garth with maybe an exception for Alabama, you have no relevancy to today's country audience. Nash made the right call on this one.

Alabama peaked in the early 80s and like I said it was Country music from the mid 20s to the mid 90s. So there would be no need to make an exception for Alabama since they ARE in fact a solid country music band. Older country from the 80s would play just as well. Look, we have q104.3 stuck in the late 60s-80s rock and are doing quite well with it.

It do not care how popular it is, it just should not be called 'country'. Call it something other than country, like female oriented soft rock, not Country. This is not just me saying this. Others including George Jones have said the same thing.

Even if I wanted to listen to it, and I have tried, the 94.7 audio and signal are horrible. I guess it is a good thing Alternative or a real Country format did not end up in 94.7 since everyone would be blaming the format rather than signal and audio.

Looking at the ratings, it remains to be seen if they made the right call.
 
mikerock said:
Alabama peaked in the early 80s and like I said it was Country music from the mid 20s to the mid 90s. So there would be no need to make an exception for Alabama since they ARE in fact a solid country music band.

They would be pleased to hear you say that. Because when they released their first single in 1980, the purists didn't think they were country. They were the first self-contained country band. Before them, you either had vocal bands like the Oak Ridge Boys and Statler Brothers, or you had bands that backed soloists, like Merle Haggard and the Strangers. But quartet bands like Alabama were considered rock bands. A lot of similar bands, like The Outlaws and Marshall Tucker, had no choice to be rock bands, because Nashville wouldn't accept them.
 
George Jones, however talented and influential was for another era. If Chuck Berry or Mick Jagger died I doubt that Z100 or Now will be playing their songs.
 
"On “Outlaw Country,” Mojo Nixon talked about Jones as one of the flawed, troubled, restless singers who have been so central in defining country music.
“Willie’s Roadhouse” stopped everything Saturday to play all of Jones’ 160-plus chart hits, showing how far his music ranged beyond the lush heartbreak ballads for which he was best known."


Thumbs Up!
 
I've listened to The Roadhouse, and I'm not surprised they did a lot on Jones. One of their regular hosts, Jim Lauderdale, wrote The King Of Broken Hearts specifically about Jones.
 
Jeff Hanneman from metal band Slayer died the other day. I wouldn't expect Nash to break format and play Slayer.

More extreme example, but the concept is the same. You can't break format.
 
TheBigA said:
mikerock said:
Alabama peaked in the early 80s and like I said it was Country music from the mid 20s to the mid 90s. So there would be no need to make an exception for Alabama since they ARE in fact a solid country music band.

They would be pleased to hear you say that. Because when they released their first single in 1980, the purists didn't think they were country. They were the first self-contained country band. Before them, you either had vocal bands like the Oak Ridge Boys and Statler Brothers, or you had bands that backed soloists, like Merle Haggard and the Strangers. But quartet bands like Alabama were considered rock bands. A lot of similar bands, like The Outlaws and Marshall Tucker, had no choice to be rock bands, because Nashville wouldn't accept them.

Yet today in some places today, you'll hear Marshall Tucker on country stations. Did "Heard It In A Love Song" chart country as well as Pop and AC in the 70s? I've heard "Sweet Home Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd on country stations.

All formats evolve. I will state what I said earlier...Country is popular today because of all the new artists and the sound. Fortunately for the purists, there are plenty of traditional oldie country stations on the internet that will play a ton of those artists like George Jones.
 
Seltzer said:
Yet today in some places today, you'll hear Marshall Tucker on country stations. Did "Heard It In A Love Song" chart country as well as Pop and AC in the 70s? I've heard "Sweet Home Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd on country stations.

All formats evolve. I will state what I said earlier...Country is popular today because of all the new artists and the sound. Fortunately for the purists, there are plenty of traditional oldie country stations on the internet that will play a ton of those artists like George Jones.

Per AMG, "Heard It In A Love Song" charted #51 Country, #14 Hot 100.

As much as George Jones is one of the Top 10 country artists ever, and a foundation for decades of music, Nash did the right thing for its format. They did not ignore Jones' passing, appropriately mentioning it many times, playing tributes. You don't have to totally break format to appropriately honor a legend.
 
As another poster said, if Nash had a morning show, they might have played "He Stopped Loving Her Today" arguably his best and most popular song. I really hope they get a morning show soon. What is taking so long?
 
I honestly can't believe that such a fuss is made about what happens on commercial radio. I haven't listened in a decade or so, unless I need a blast of 24/7 news and traffic or a baseball or football game. I'm sure I listen to more commercial AM than FM. Nash-FM didn't honor the late George Jones because some consultant probably told them not to do that kind of thing. What a wonderful education some George Jones could be for the listeners, but instead it's just another example of how commercial radio just serves to make the general public dumber.

Legends get honored by people who care, and radio stations with smart listeners. George Jones was featured throughout the day, but KEXP host Don Slack devoted his whole show to Jones:
http://kexp.org/playlist/2013/5/2/6pm

An artist like Jones could easily be heard almost any time on KEXP. That's why hearing a three hour tribute to him would not seem out of place. For another week you can listen to it here:
http://kexp.org/archive#/2013/05/02/6PM/00

Consultants and focus groups have killed radio. Period.

Val
 
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