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Did WLTS gain anything?

J

joepa4prez

Guest
So now they're running 810 watts from the Bus/Hot site up on Tussey, compared to 350 watts (or thereabouts) for the other two. Check out the coverage maps on radio-locator.com and the new "25,000 watt" signal looks pretty much the same as Bus & Hot's. Why bother? There was nothing wrong with the 94.5 signal as far as covering the State College market; the metro is only Centre County anyway, and it covered every inch of the county. What did they gain--aside from getting the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they don't sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now they'll have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I don't get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
 
> What did they gain--aside from getting
> the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they don't
> sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now they'll
> have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I don't
> get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just
> "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
>

Moving 99.5 to State College allows them to use the signal to reach a more populated area...maximizing profits...but only in the short term.
I can understand where they are coming from...a lot of owners would probably simulcast, move signals to reach more populated areas, etc. I don't want to come across as though I am bashing Forever--because I am not--it is definitly the best radio group to work for in Central PA; however, I don't think the changes are thought through enough. They are not in the best interest of the company. Short-term profits will be maximized...less staff (both sales and programming), less overhead, larger audiance...all great things for Forever.

These changes will create numerous troubles down the road. The rural areas around Huntingdon and Mt. Union have almost no local radio left. Being local is one of the bigest means of competeing with satellite radio, ipods, and soon (as cell phone coverage increases allowing for wireless web and wireless internet prices decrease) internet radio in cars. (I was just talking to someone about internet radio in cars yesterday.) Lack of local programming in this region means more listeners tuning out of local radio. Then even more people, but this time in the larger towns, follow the lead and listen to other sources.

More problems ahead: simucasting and programming very few formats.
There are already very few programming choices available in Central PA...at least now we have Smooth Jazz, expanded playlist on WALY, and K-Love...big improvements; however, with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little too rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what "fwdmo" would try to convince you.), mainstream rock/small playlist as Rocky, or the small Froggy library, it is sometimes very difficult to find something to listen to...espesially in the more rural areas. It seems to me, the way to prevent people from investing in the new technologies would be to program larger playlists, and more formats...but also be local. Give the people stuff they can't get elsewhere....like local news and weather....but also local converstation from the jocks. I do not subscribe to satellite radio because there are more than enough choices on the FM band in the city where I live. I know of many people who are on the air in Central PA that listen to either Sirius or XM...also a few people have bought stock in these companies.
 
Jumper, I agree with you 100%. I think the only way local radio is going to be an economicaly viable entity 10-20 years from now is if it goes back to its roots and becomes truly local again...with local people talking about local things.

But companies like Forever (and, for that matter, most companies everywhere...not just in radio and not just Forever) are focused on short-term financial goals. They'll worry about the future when the future gets here, and not a minute before that.

Forever's upper-level management seems particularly prone to this read-fire-aim disease. Hence, the format-of-the-week style that we've seen on their stations over the last several years.

> > What did they gain--aside from getting
> > the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they don't
> > sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now
> they'll
> > have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I don't
>
> > get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just
> > "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
> >
>
> Moving 99.5 to State College allows them to use the signal
> to reach a more populated area...maximizing profits...but
> only in the short term.
> I can understand where they are coming from...a lot of
> owners would probably simulcast, move signals to reach more
> populated areas, etc. I don't want to come across as though
> I am bashing Forever--because I am not--it is definitly the
> best radio group to work for in Central PA; however, I don't
> think the changes are thought through enough. They are not
> in the best interest of the company. Short-term profits will
> be maximized...less staff (both sales and programming), less
> overhead, larger audiance...all great things for Forever.
>
> These changes will create numerous troubles down the road.
> The rural areas around Huntingdon and Mt. Union have almost
> no local radio left. Being local is one of the bigest means
> of competeing with satellite radio, ipods, and soon (as cell
> phone coverage increases allowing for wireless web and
> wireless internet prices decrease) internet radio in cars.
> (I was just talking to someone about internet radio in cars
> yesterday.) Lack of local programming in this region means
> more listeners tuning out of local radio. Then even more
> people, but this time in the larger towns, follow the lead
> and listen to other sources.
>
> More problems ahead: simucasting and programming very few
> formats.
> There are already very few programming choices available in
> Central PA...at least now we have Smooth Jazz, expanded
> playlist on WALY, and K-Love...big improvements; however,
> with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little too
> rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what "fwdmo"
> would try to convince you.), mainstream rock/small playlist
> as Rocky, or the small Froggy library, it is sometimes very
> difficult to find something to listen to...espesially in the
> more rural areas. It seems to me, the way to prevent people
> from investing in the new technologies would be to program
> larger playlists, and more formats...but also be local. Give
> the people stuff they can't get elsewhere....like local news
> and weather....but also local converstation from the jocks.
> I do not subscribe to satellite radio because there are more
> than enough choices on the FM band in the city where I live.
> I know of many people who are on the air in Central PA that
> listen to either Sirius or XM...also a few people have
> bought stock in these companies.
>
 
Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

Hard to believe that every radio outfit in Central PA (i.e., State College, Altoona, Johnstown & environs) has followed the Forever model: buy 'em , strip 'em and run 'em cheap. How 'bout the others? Simpson? Magnum? First Media? WRTA? Some of these are still doing local-focused info and public service between the tunes, aren't they? In most markets that's mostly a morning drive thing. Aren't some of these morning shows still local/local/local?

BTW, local doesn't necessarily mean "good." And I guess that's the next question: is it more important to be local or good?


> Jumper, I agree with you 100%. I think the only way local
> radio is going to be an economicaly viable entity 10-20
> years from now is if it goes back to its roots and becomes
> truly local again...with local people talking about local
> things.
>
> But companies like Forever (and, for that matter, most
> companies everywhere...not just in radio and not just
> Forever) are focused on short-term financial goals. They'll
> worry about the future when the future gets here, and not a
> minute before that.
>
> Forever's upper-level management seems particularly prone to
> this read-fire-aim disease. Hence, the format-of-the-week
> style that we've seen on their stations over the last
> several years.
>
> > > What did they gain--aside from getting
> > > the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they don't
>
> > > sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now
> > they'll
> > > have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I
> don't
> >
> > > get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just
> > > "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
> > >
> >
> > Moving 99.5 to State College allows them to use the signal
>
> > to reach a more populated area...maximizing profits...but
> > only in the short term.
> > I can understand where they are coming from...a lot of
> > owners would probably simulcast, move signals to reach
> more
> > populated areas, etc. I don't want to come across as
> though
> > I am bashing Forever--because I am not--it is definitly
> the
> > best radio group to work for in Central PA; however, I
> don't
> > think the changes are thought through enough. They are not
>
> > in the best interest of the company. Short-term profits
> will
> > be maximized...less staff (both sales and programming),
> less
> > overhead, larger audiance...all great things for Forever.
> >
> > These changes will create numerous troubles down the road.
>
> > The rural areas around Huntingdon and Mt. Union have
> almost
> > no local radio left. Being local is one of the bigest
> means
> > of competeing with satellite radio, ipods, and soon (as
> cell
> > phone coverage increases allowing for wireless web and
> > wireless internet prices decrease) internet radio in cars.
>
> > (I was just talking to someone about internet radio in
> cars
> > yesterday.) Lack of local programming in this region means
>
> > more listeners tuning out of local radio. Then even more
> > people, but this time in the larger towns, follow the lead
>
> > and listen to other sources.
> >
> > More problems ahead: simucasting and programming very few
> > formats.
> > There are already very few programming choices available
> in
> > Central PA...at least now we have Smooth Jazz, expanded
> > playlist on WALY, and K-Love...big improvements; however,
> > with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little
> too
> > rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what
> "fwdmo"
> > would try to convince you.), mainstream rock/small
> playlist
> > as Rocky, or the small Froggy library, it is sometimes
> very
> > difficult to find something to listen to...espesially in
> the
> > more rural areas. It seems to me, the way to prevent
> people
> > from investing in the new technologies would be to program
>
> > larger playlists, and more formats...but also be local.
> Give
> > the people stuff they can't get elsewhere....like local
> news
> > and weather....but also local converstation from the
> jocks.
> > I do not subscribe to satellite radio because there are
> more
> > than enough choices on the FM band in the city where I
> live.
> > I know of many people who are on the air in Central PA
> that
> > listen to either Sirius or XM...also a few people have
> > bought stock in these companies.
> >
>
 
> however, with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little too
> rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what "fwdmo"
> would try to convince you)


aaahhh...when did I ever comment on ANY station's playlist? If you are going to say I did something, get it right.
 
Re: Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

WRTA does a significant amount of local programming, even outside of AM drive. And they just had yet another very good book, by the way.

The Rev has mostly local jocks, but their visibility in the community is close to zero. I could be wrong, but that's my perception. If you're mostly just voice tracking liner cards, that doesn't really count as "local" to me, even if you are geographically in the same city.

I don't know whether "local" or "good" is more important. But they don't have to be mutually exclusive.

> Hard to believe that every radio outfit in Central PA (i.e.,
> State College, Altoona, Johnstown & environs) has followed
> the Forever model: buy 'em , strip 'em and run 'em cheap.
> How 'bout the others? Simpson? Magnum? First Media? WRTA?
> Some of these are still doing local-focused info and public
> service between the tunes, aren't they? In most markets
> that's mostly a morning drive thing. Aren't some of these
> morning shows still local/local/local?
>
> BTW, local doesn't necessarily mean "good." And I guess
> that's the next question: is it more important to be local
> or good?
>
>
> > Jumper, I agree with you 100%. I think the only way local
>
> > radio is going to be an economicaly viable entity 10-20
> > years from now is if it goes back to its roots and becomes
>
> > truly local again...with local people talking about local
> > things.
> >
> > But companies like Forever (and, for that matter, most
> > companies everywhere...not just in radio and not just
> > Forever) are focused on short-term financial goals.
> They'll
> > worry about the future when the future gets here, and not
> a
> > minute before that.
> >
> > Forever's upper-level management seems particularly prone
> to
> > this read-fire-aim disease. Hence, the format-of-the-week
>
> > style that we've seen on their stations over the last
> > several years.
> >
> > > > What did they gain--aside from getting
> > > > the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they
> don't
> >
> > > > sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now
> > > they'll
> > > > have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I
> > don't
> > >
> > > > get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just
> > > > "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Moving 99.5 to State College allows them to use the
> signal
> >
> > > to reach a more populated area...maximizing
> profits...but
> > > only in the short term.
> > > I can understand where they are coming from...a lot of
> > > owners would probably simulcast, move signals to reach
> > more
> > > populated areas, etc. I don't want to come across as
> > though
> > > I am bashing Forever--because I am not--it is definitly
> > the
> > > best radio group to work for in Central PA; however, I
> > don't
> > > think the changes are thought through enough. They are
> not
> >
> > > in the best interest of the company. Short-term profits
> > will
> > > be maximized...less staff (both sales and programming),
> > less
> > > overhead, larger audiance...all great things for
> Forever.
> > >
> > > These changes will create numerous troubles down the
> road.
> >
> > > The rural areas around Huntingdon and Mt. Union have
> > almost
> > > no local radio left. Being local is one of the bigest
> > means
> > > of competeing with satellite radio, ipods, and soon (as
> > cell
> > > phone coverage increases allowing for wireless web and
> > > wireless internet prices decrease) internet radio in
> cars.
> >
> > > (I was just talking to someone about internet radio in
> > cars
> > > yesterday.) Lack of local programming in this region
> means
> >
> > > more listeners tuning out of local radio. Then even more
>
> > > people, but this time in the larger towns, follow the
> lead
> >
> > > and listen to other sources.
> > >
> > > More problems ahead: simucasting and programming very
> few
> > > formats.
> > > There are already very few programming choices available
>
> > in
> > > Central PA...at least now we have Smooth Jazz, expanded
> > > playlist on WALY, and K-Love...big improvements;
> however,
> > > with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little
> > too
> > > rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what
> > "fwdmo"
> > > would try to convince you.), mainstream rock/small
> > playlist
> > > as Rocky, or the small Froggy library, it is sometimes
> > very
> > > difficult to find something to listen to...espesially in
>
> > the
> > > more rural areas. It seems to me, the way to prevent
> > people
> > > from investing in the new technologies would be to
> program
> >
> > > larger playlists, and more formats...but also be local.
> > Give
> > > the people stuff they can't get elsewhere....like local
> > news
> > > and weather....but also local converstation from the
> > jocks.
> > > I do not subscribe to satellite radio because there are
> > more
> > > than enough choices on the FM band in the city where I
> > live.
> > > I know of many people who are on the air in Central PA
> > that
> > > listen to either Sirius or XM...also a few people have
> > > bought stock in these companies.
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

> WRTA does a significant amount of local programming, even
> outside of AM drive. And they just had yet another very
> good book, by the way.
>
> The Rev has mostly local jocks, but their visibility in the
> community is close to zero. I could be wrong, but that's my
> perception. If you're mostly just voice tracking liner
> cards, that doesn't really count as "local" to me, even if
> you are geographically in the same city.
>
> I don't know whether "local" or "good" is more important.
> But they don't have to be mutually exclusive.


Who is "The Rev"? Is that the State College Christian station?
 
Re: Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

Ha! Brain Fade. I meant G-101. Sorry.

> > WRTA does a significant amount of local programming, even
> > outside of AM drive. And they just had yet another very
> > good book, by the way.
> >
> > The Rev has mostly local jocks, but their visibility in
> the
> > community is close to zero. I could be wrong, but that's
> my
> > perception. If you're mostly just voice tracking liner
> > cards, that doesn't really count as "local" to me, even if
>
> > you are geographically in the same city.
> >
> > I don't know whether "local" or "good" is more important.
>
> > But they don't have to be mutually exclusive.
>
>
> Who is "The Rev"? Is that the State College Christian
> station?
>
 
Re: Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

What do you call a radio group who doesn’t use fiscal responsibility? Out of business. Even when Dame was paying twice what it should for many positions – people pissed and moaned about them being cheap. When it’s your money, you don’t look at it through Radio-Info glasses.


> Hard to believe that every radio outfit in Central PA (i.e.,
> State College, Altoona, Johnstown & environs) has followed
> the Forever model: buy 'em , strip 'em and run 'em cheap.
> How 'bout the others? Simpson? Magnum? First Media? WRTA?
> Some of these are still doing local-focused info and public
> service between the tunes, aren't they? In most markets
> that's mostly a morning drive thing. Aren't some of these
> morning shows still local/local/local?
>
> BTW, local doesn't necessarily mean "good." And I guess
> that's the next question: is it more important to be local
> or good?
>
>
> > Jumper, I agree with you 100%. I think the only way local
>
> > radio is going to be an economicaly viable entity 10-20
> > years from now is if it goes back to its roots and becomes
>
> > truly local again...with local people talking about local
> > things.
> >
> > But companies like Forever (and, for that matter, most
> > companies everywhere...not just in radio and not just
> > Forever) are focused on short-term financial goals.
> They'll
> > worry about the future when the future gets here, and not
> a
> > minute before that.
> >
> > Forever's upper-level management seems particularly prone
> to
> > this read-fire-aim disease. Hence, the format-of-the-week
>
> > style that we've seen on their stations over the last
> > several years.
> >
> > > > What did they gain--aside from getting
> > > > the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they
> don't
> >
> > > > sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now
> > > they'll
> > > > have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I
> > don't
> > >
> > > > get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just
> > > > "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Moving 99.5 to State College allows them to use the
> signal
> >
> > > to reach a more populated area...maximizing
> profits...but
> > > only in the short term.
> > > I can understand where they are coming from...a lot of
> > > owners would probably simulcast, move signals to reach
> > more
> > > populated areas, etc. I don't want to come across as
> > though
> > > I am bashing Forever--because I am not--it is definitly
> > the
> > > best radio group to work for in Central PA; however, I
> > don't
> > > think the changes are thought through enough. They are
> not
> >
> > > in the best interest of the company. Short-term profits
> > will
> > > be maximized...less staff (both sales and programming),
> > less
> > > overhead, larger audiance...all great things for
> Forever.
> > >
> > > These changes will create numerous troubles down the
> road.
> >
> > > The rural areas around Huntingdon and Mt. Union have
> > almost
> > > no local radio left. Being local is one of the bigest
> > means
> > > of competeing with satellite radio, ipods, and soon (as
> > cell
> > > phone coverage increases allowing for wireless web and
> > > wireless internet prices decrease) internet radio in
> cars.
> >
> > > (I was just talking to someone about internet radio in
> > cars
> > > yesterday.) Lack of local programming in this region
> means
> >
> > > more listeners tuning out of local radio. Then even more
>
> > > people, but this time in the larger towns, follow the
> lead
> >
> > > and listen to other sources.
> > >
> > > More problems ahead: simucasting and programming very
> few
> > > formats.
> > > There are already very few programming choices available
>
> > in
> > > Central PA...at least now we have Smooth Jazz, expanded
> > > playlist on WALY, and K-Love...big improvements;
> however,
> > > with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little
> > too
> > > rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what
> > "fwdmo"
> > > would try to convince you.), mainstream rock/small
> > playlist
> > > as Rocky, or the small Froggy library, it is sometimes
> > very
> > > difficult to find something to listen to...espesially in
>
> > the
> > > more rural areas. It seems to me, the way to prevent
> > people
> > > from investing in the new technologies would be to
> program
> >
> > > larger playlists, and more formats...but also be local.
> > Give
> > > the people stuff they can't get elsewhere....like local
> > news
> > > and weather....but also local converstation from the
> > jocks.
> > > I do not subscribe to satellite radio because there are
> > more
> > > than enough choices on the FM band in the city where I
> > live.
> > > I know of many people who are on the air in Central PA
> > that
> > > listen to either Sirius or XM...also a few people have
> > > bought stock in these companies.
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

I'm going to have to guess that no one on here but me is older than their 20's or early 30's because it's obvious that no one listens to AM radio.

If you're looking for local radio and GOOD local radio, there's a talented veteran on 1390 AM by the name of Kevin Nelson. He's been around here forever and a day. But just listen from 6A to 9A and you get local news, weather and sports.

On top of that, you laugh your ass off for three hours. With some of the bonehead moves made by just our county commissioners alone, Kevin Nelson and that radio partner of his, Dave Shannon, have more than 3 hours of material on any given morning.

FM morning shows playing music are okay, but frankly, they are rather dull.

> Hard to believe that every radio outfit in Central PA (i.e.,
> State College, Altoona, Johnstown & environs) has followed
> the Forever model: buy 'em , strip 'em and run 'em cheap.
> How 'bout the others? Simpson? Magnum? First Media? WRTA?
> Some of these are still doing local-focused info and public
> service between the tunes, aren't they? In most markets
> that's mostly a morning drive thing. Aren't some of these
> morning shows still local/local/local?
>
> BTW, local doesn't necessarily mean "good." And I guess
> that's the next question: is it more important to be local
> or good?
>
>
> > Jumper, I agree with you 100%. I think the only way local
>
> > radio is going to be an economicaly viable entity 10-20
> > years from now is if it goes back to its roots and becomes
>
> > truly local again...with local people talking about local
> > things.
> >
> > But companies like Forever (and, for that matter, most
> > companies everywhere...not just in radio and not just
> > Forever) are focused on short-term financial goals.
> They'll
> > worry about the future when the future gets here, and not
> a
> > minute before that.
> >
> > Forever's upper-level management seems particularly prone
> to
> > this read-fire-aim disease. Hence, the format-of-the-week
>
> > style that we've seen on their stations over the last
> > several years.
> >
> > > > What did they gain--aside from getting
> > > > the hell out of Mount Union? Lewistown? Hell, they
> don't
> >
> > > > sell anything in Lewistown now on Bus & Hot. So now
> > > they'll
> > > > have 3 stations that get nothing out of Lewistown? I
> > don't
> > >
> > > > get it... what're these guys thinking? Is this just
> > > > "Engineering for Engineering's Sake?"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Moving 99.5 to State College allows them to use the
> signal
> >
> > > to reach a more populated area...maximizing
> profits...but
> > > only in the short term.
> > > I can understand where they are coming from...a lot of
> > > owners would probably simulcast, move signals to reach
> > more
> > > populated areas, etc. I don't want to come across as
> > though
> > > I am bashing Forever--because I am not--it is definitly
> > the
> > > best radio group to work for in Central PA; however, I
> > don't
> > > think the changes are thought through enough. They are
> not
> >
> > > in the best interest of the company. Short-term profits
> > will
> > > be maximized...less staff (both sales and programming),
> > less
> > > overhead, larger audiance...all great things for
> Forever.
> > >
> > > These changes will create numerous troubles down the
> road.
> >
> > > The rural areas around Huntingdon and Mt. Union have
> > almost
> > > no local radio left. Being local is one of the bigest
> > means
> > > of competeing with satellite radio, ipods, and soon (as
> > cell
> > > phone coverage increases allowing for wireless web and
> > > wireless internet prices decrease) internet radio in
> cars.
> >
> > > (I was just talking to someone about internet radio in
> > cars
> > > yesterday.) Lack of local programming in this region
> means
> >
> > > more listeners tuning out of local radio. Then even more
>
> > > people, but this time in the larger towns, follow the
> lead
> >
> > > and listen to other sources.
> > >
> > > More problems ahead: simucasting and programming very
> few
> > > formats.
> > > There are already very few programming choices available
>
> > in
> > > Central PA...at least now we have Smooth Jazz, expanded
> > > playlist on WALY, and K-Love...big improvements;
> however,
> > > with so many stations playing Hot (which seems a little
> > too
> > > rhythmic for mainsteam top 40 to me...no matter what
> > "fwdmo"
> > > would try to convince you.), mainstream rock/small
> > playlist
> > > as Rocky, or the small Froggy library, it is sometimes
> > very
> > > difficult to find something to listen to...espesially in
>
> > the
> > > more rural areas. It seems to me, the way to prevent
> > people
> > > from investing in the new technologies would be to
> program
> >
> > > larger playlists, and more formats...but also be local.
> > Give
> > > the people stuff they can't get elsewhere....like local
> > news
> > > and weather....but also local converstation from the
> > jocks.
> > > I do not subscribe to satellite radio because there are
> > more
> > > than enough choices on the FM band in the city where I
> > live.
> > > I know of many people who are on the air in Central PA
> > that
> > > listen to either Sirius or XM...also a few people have
> > > bought stock in these companies.
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: Is ANYBODY doing good LOCAL radio?

> I'm going to have to guess that no one on here but me is
> older than their 20's or early 30's because it's obvious
> that no one listens to AM radio.

Sadly, I do not fit that description.
I listen to AM, but not in State College.


> If you're looking for local radio and GOOD local radio,
> there's a talented veteran on 1390 AM by the name of Kevin
> Nelson. He's been around here forever and a day. But just
> listen from 6A to 9A and you get local news, weather and
> sports.
>
> On top of that, you laugh your ass off for three hours.
> With some of the bonehead moves made by just our county
> commissioners alone, Kevin Nelson and that radio partner of
> his, Dave Shannon, have more than 3 hours of material on any
> given morning.
>
> FM morning shows playing music are okay, but frankly, they
> are rather dull.
 
Am I missing something???

Now, I'll admit that I'm an out-of-towner, so maybe I just don't see things that you all do. But from what I've heard, the one station doing a great job of local radio is 3WZ. And, secondly, the Bus. 3WZ is real info-intensive for an AC station, aren't they? And when I've heard Jeff Brown on BUS he seems really tied-in to everything going on around town. Aren't those two stations usually near the top of the ratings, too? Somebody mentioned WRSC. They used to be the hot station 15 or 20 years ago, didn't they?


> > I'm going to have to guess that no one on here but me is
> > older than their 20's or early 30's because it's obvious
> > that no one listens to AM radio.
>
> Sadly, I do not fit that description.
> I listen to AM, but not in State College.
>
>
> > If you're looking for local radio and GOOD local radio,
> > there's a talented veteran on 1390 AM by the name of Kevin
>
> > Nelson. He's been around here forever and a day. But
> just
> > listen from 6A to 9A and you get local news, weather and
> > sports.
> >
> > On top of that, you laugh your ass off for three hours.
> > With some of the bonehead moves made by just our county
> > commissioners alone, Kevin Nelson and that radio partner
> of
> > his, Dave Shannon, have more than 3 hours of material on
> any
> > given morning.
> >
> > FM morning shows playing music are okay, but frankly, they
>
> > are rather dull.
>
 
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