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Did you know ... ?

Even in this day when people seem to know everything about show business, there are some facts that have been withheld from the public, until now in this very forum. Here's a few things you never knew about your favorite TV shows and stars from the past:

Did you know ...

That the short-lived syndicated game show "The Diamond Head Game," which was hosted by Bob Eubanks, ran in early 1975, and was set in Hawaii, was supposed to figure in a plot of an episode of "Hawaii Five-O" (original version), where it was to be revealed that the executive producer of the show was Steve McGarrett's arch-nemesis Wo Fat (Khigh Dheigh)? Unfortunately, the show didn't last long enough, or get shown in enough markets throughout the country, for that to pan out.

That one of the companies hoping to sponsor the first-ever episode of "All in the Family" on January 12, 1971, American Home Products, was forced to cancel those plans by CBS when the network realized that Archie Bunker and his iconic wing-back chair would not be a good way to promote Preparation H hemorrhoidal treatment?

That Jack Webb had tried, right before beginning production on the 1967 revival of "Dragnet," to purchase the famous Randy's Donuts restaurant in Los Angeles to use as a gathering place for the Joe Friday and Bill Gannon (Harry Morgan) characters to take breaks while on cases? The eatery would have also been used on "Adam-12" for Pete Malloy (Martin Milner) and Jim Reed (Kent McCord) and on "Emergency" for John Gage (Randolph Mantooth) and Roy DeSoto (Kevin Tighe). Webb also hoped to use the restaurant as a false front for a narcotics sting operation in at least one storyline.

That the real reason that Henry Winkler did not grease his hair for his Fonzie character on "Happy Days," as would have been authentic for the 1950s, was due to the fact that doctors discovered that the hair follicles on Winkler's scalp actually emitted miniscule flames of butane? Thus, it was not for nothing that people in Hollywood considered Winkler a "hot head."

That Playtex considered having spokeswoman Jane Russell model its notorious 18-hour bras and girdles while being set on fire, in order to have her say a new catchphrase for the products, "All right, you unwashed hippie girls out there, try to burn these!"?

That Don Knotts' successful comeback on "Three's Company" as landlord Ralph Furley encouraged executive producers Michael Ross and Bernie West to consider putting Knotts in a spin-off titled "Four's Too Loud," in which the Furley character, moving to a new job in Van Nuys, is forced to share his room with a vice squad officer who had recently been a sheriff in North Carolina, his school teacher wife, and a dim-witted ex-gas station attendant who tagged along with the couple and found work as a nightclub manager? Unfortunately, since no network was willing to pick up the series, no information could be located about casting for the roles.

That the cast of "Bonanza" actually ate the food prepared on set by the Hop Sing character, portrayed by Victor Sen Yung? Yung/Hop fixed each actor's favorite food, which for Lorne Greene was poutine, Pernell Roberts was fried chicken, Michael Landon was pastrami on rye, and Dan Blocker was buck steaks--with a shot of Wild Turkey whiskey.

That producers of NBC's "Huntley-Brinkley Report" back in the 1960s nixed the idea of having a third anchor desk in Los Angeles, with Tom Brokaw, then the main anchor on O&O station KNBC, presenting the "Now News" in an attempt to garner a younger demographic? How would they handle the signature sign-off? "Good night, Chet and Tom ... Good night, David and Tom ... And, hey man, take it cool this evening, you cats Chet and David. Everything's gonna be, like, out of sight. Love your neighbor in more ways than one. Splitsville until tomorrow, dude."

That none of the above is true, and you people are suckers for having read this far?
 
Message to future Internet researchers:

The first post was created for the purpose of fooling people in celebration of April Fools' Day.
 
Ya got me.....and I tried hard today to NOT be fooled. I'm ashamed! Good work, OP.

cd
 
You had me until that 'poutine' thing. I cannot imagine Lorne Greene eating poutine (and yes, I know he was Canadian).

But that brings to mind another question.

In Big Bang Theory there are many scenes of the gang eating. Either in the apartment or at a restaurant. I've often wondered if they really ate that food or just stirred it around with their forks (or chopsticks)?
 
And in 2000, Smellovision did replace Television. Carl Stalling was wrong. ;D

(After all, there have been some pretty smelly shows on the air since then. I think they call them "reality shows.")
 
You almost had me with Tom Brokaw from L.A.! He was a rising star, and history will show that this would not have been a bad idea. ABC did a three anchor format a decade later, and it worked for them. But timing is everything, and NBC struggled after Huntley-Brinkley ended in 1970, and Brokaw went on to a major job at NBC. I think he retired too soon.
 
NBC also tried a three-anchor format (Brinkley, John Chancellor, and
Frank McGee) after Chet Huntley retired. The problem was that only
two anchors would appear on any given night, and viewers never knew
which two, thus preventing a buildup of loyalty which goes hand in hand
with the most successful anchors. ABC's "World News Tonight" in its original
format had Frank Reynolds as first among equals, opening and closing the
broadcast as well as reporting Washington stories; Max Robinson handled the
rest of the country; Peter Jennings had the foreign news. But viewers could
expect to see all three every night.

Tom Brokaw was at WSB Atlanta when he got the offer from KNBC; WSB
couldn't match KNBC's price. That put him on an NBC o&o, he worked his
way up (probably coming into prominence covering Watergate for NBC, which
led to the "Today" show and then "Nightly News"). Also, somewhat ironically,
he and Dan Rather competed against each other on Saturdays for a time in
the '70s.
 
Mario-500 said:
Message to future Internet researchers:

The first post was created for the purpose of fooling people in celebration of April Fools' Day.

You're kidding. 

Right?

Second note to "future Internet researchers" from Russell:

You all are not brainless, as some think you are.    You're smart enough to see the date of this post.  Some of us "neanderthals from here in the past" have a well-developed sense of humor and found Mike's "information" quite hilarious.

That is all.  Cheers!
 
All right, friends, with the AFD holiday over and done with for 2013, time for me to decipher my annual leg-pulling:

Mike Stroud said:
That the short-lived syndicated game show "The Diamond Head Game," which was hosted by Bob Eubanks, ran in early 1975, and was set in Hawaii, was supposed to figure in a plot of an episode of "Hawaii Five-O" (original version), where it was to be revealed that the executive producer of the show was Steve McGarrett's arch-nemesis Wo Fat (Khigh Dheigh)? Unfortunately, the show didn't last long enough, or get shown in enough markets throughout the country, for that to pan out.

This one was actually the slickest of them all: you had to know a few things in the background. First off, Wo Fat was a agent of the Maoist government on the Chinese mainland. It was still a Marxist, centralized and planned economy not permitting private enterprise. Even though the plot, had it actually happened, might have been a covert operation as a front for his espionage hijinks, Wo would have been a plainly horrible TV executive, giving him away to the Five-O eventually. Second, and most important, at this exact time frame, for some reason, CBS thought that Dheigh would be a perfect fit for a new private eye series set in Frisco. The show, titled "Khan!," lasted all of February--just four episodes. So Wo was in truth technically out of commission at the time of "Diamond Head"'s airing.

"He-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he!"

That one of the companies hoping to sponsor the first-ever episode of "All in the Family" on January 12, 1971, American Home Products, was forced to cancel those plans by CBS when the network realized that Archie Bunker and his iconic wing-back chair would not be a good way to promote Preparation H hemorrhoidal treatment?

I know, folks, I'm the uncrowned king of good taste on this forum. And one thing I should have mentioned in addition to that was that Sally Struthers had to have medically supervised doses of helium administered to her on set during tapings to get that voice of hers high enough to keep up with "Daddy" and "Meathead"'s yow-yowing. (And besides, everybody likes a little toilet humor every now and then, even preachers.)

That Jack Webb had tried, right before beginning production on the 1967 revival of "Dragnet," to purchase the famous Randy's Donuts restaurant in Los Angeles to use as a gathering place for the Joe Friday and Bill Gannon (Harry Morgan) characters to take breaks while on cases? The eatery would have also been used on "Adam-12" for Pete Malloy (Martin Milner) and Jim Reed (Kent McCord) and on "Emergency" for John Gage (Randolph Mantooth) and Roy DeSoto (Kevin Tighe). Webb also hoped to use the restaurant as a false front for a narcotics sting operation in at least one storyline.

That's a simple one, trading on the stereotype of law enforcement patrols being fond of taking their breaks at donut shops. That turned up in a lot of genres like detective fictions and was all over parodies of cop shows when I was growing up.

That the real reason that Henry Winkler did not grease his hair for his Fonzie character on "Happy Days," as would have been authentic for the 1950s, was due to the fact that doctors discovered that the hair follicles on Winkler's scalp actually emitted miniscule flames of butane? Thus, it was not for nothing that people in Hollywood considered Winkler a "hot head."

The last sentence was actually a jab at Winkler's propensity for liberal political activism. As for why Garry Marshall didn't insist on the Fonzie character's hair being entirely slicked back to give a totally retro look, we'll probably never know that one.

That Playtex considered having spokeswoman Jane Russell model its notorious 18-hour bras and girdles while being set on fire, in order to have her say a new catchphrase for the products, "All right, you unwashed hippie girls out there, try to burn these!"?

Ah yes, one of Hollywood's old-line pin-up sweethearts would have been engaging in an early form of cultural warfare against the counterculture and especially feminists. Russell was public about her conservative political and religious views, and since her contemporaries were all either mothers and grandmothers trying to keep their daughters and granddaughters away from the corruptions of the wide-open Sixties and Seventies, this would have been perfectly plausible--if a stunt double could have been found for her. (And, no, I don't know a blasted thing about the fabrics those "foundation" garments were made of--but I bet they were steel compared to today's Spanx and leggings)

That Don Knotts' successful comeback on "Three's Company" as landlord Ralph Furley encouraged executive producers Michael Ross and Bernie West to consider putting Knotts in a spin-off titled "Four's Too Loud," in which the Furley character, moving to a new job in Van Nuys, is forced to share his room with a vice squad officer who had recently been a sheriff in North Carolina, his school teacher wife, and a dim-witted ex-gas station attendant who tagged along with the couple and found work as a nightclub manager? Unfortunately, since no network was willing to pick up the series, no information could be located about casting for the roles.

Ross and West tried it once with Furley's predecessors, the Ropers (Norman Fell and Audra Lindley), so why not with Knotts/Furley? Of course, everybody knew I was referring to Andy Griffith, Anita Corsaut as Helen Crump, and George Lindsey as Goober Pyle. Now, what on earth would Goober's nightclub be named? They didn't say anything about that, either. (Caught you!)

That the cast of "Bonanza" actually ate the food prepared on set by the Hop Sing character, portrayed by Victor Sen Yung? Yung/Hop fixed each actor's favorite food, which for Lorne Greene was poutine, Pernell Roberts was fried chicken, Michael Landon was pastrami on rye, and Dan Blocker was buck steaks--with a shot of Wild Turkey whiskey.

One of you folks figured out the poutine connection to Lorne Greene's Canadian origin. But here are the others: Pernell Roberts was from Georgia (hence fried chicken), Michael Landon grew up in Queens and Philly in a Jewish household (thereby frequenting delicatessens in all likelihood), and Blocker was from west Texas and had a massive frame, induced in no small part probably thanks to a hearty appetite--and he worked as a honkey-tonk bouncer for a spell in his younger days, exposing him to the temptations of the drink. No, please, don't thank me.

That producers of NBC's "Huntley-Brinkley Report" back in the 1960s nixed the idea of having a third anchor desk in Los Angeles, with Tom Brokaw, then the main anchor on O&O station KNBC, presenting the "Now News" in an attempt to garner a younger demographic? How would they handle the signature sign-off? "Good night, Chet and Tom ... Good night, David and Tom ... And, hey man, take it cool this evening, you cats Chet and David. Everything's gonna be, like, out of sight. Love your neighbor in more ways than one. Splitsville until tomorrow, dude."

I got flat-out ridiculous on this one. I mean, off the rails: SAN FRANCISCO is where all the hippie action was happening, L.A. was just a satellite of all that. And can anyone reasonably imagine Brokaw affecting "groovy" speech, or a TV network's news operation even allowing him to? Stories on the evening news invariably took a condescending, if not critical look at Haight-Ashbury and other crash pads of the 1967-71 period, contrary to the beliefs of some that the media coddled teens and college kids and encouraged deviance and crime. If you don't believe that, take a look at some of the footage at the Vanderbilt TV News Archive in Nashville and maybe you'll see what I'm talking about. Huntley, Brinkley, Cronkite, Frank Reynolds, every newsman on TV was the embodiment of "squareness" in those days; dads and grandparents watched TV news, not their "happening" offspring. Now, maybe if current-day network execs might learn a thing or two from that ... oh, bother.


So, that's April 1, 2013 for ya. Not quite as good as the NBC scare I pulled off a couple of years back, but much better than last year's "Retro: NYC, January 1, 1900" bit. That means that in 2014, my joke will really suck. It's a cycle, you see.
 
Russell W. said:
Mario-500 said:
Message to future Internet researchers:

The first post was created for the purpose of fooling people in celebration of April Fools' Day.

You're kidding.

Right?

Second note to "future Internet researchers" from Russell:

You all are not brainless, as some think you are. You're smart enough to see the date of this post. Some of us "neanderthals from here in the past" have a well-developed sense of humor and found Mike's "information" quite hilarious.

That is all. Cheers!

I never thought future Internet researchers would be "brainless". Not everyone celebrates April Fools' Day and future Internet researchers unfamiliar with this day may become victims of its jokes. Even if they were familiar with April Fools' Day, the date April 1st would not be enough to help them since true and false information can be posted on the Internet on any calendar date.
 
Mario-500 said:
I never thought future Internet researchers would be "brainless". Not everyone celebrates April Fools' Day and future Internet researchers unfamiliar with this day may become victims of its jokes. Even if they were familiar with April Fools' Day, the date April 1st would not be enough to help them since true and false information can be posted on the Internet on any calendar date.

So, what do you suggest?    Prefacing all posts of that nature with: THE FOLLOWING IS AN APRIL FOOL'S JOKE???    Boy, that'll make 'em laugh.

*********
We fast forward to 2513.  I'm not sure how the "internet" will be delivered, but that's not important......

[cue: "Star Trek" background sound effects]

"Golly, Zeldak, I was trying to research the history of the Huntley/Brinkley Report, and found this totally outrageous lie about Tom Brokaw.  And what was that about Archie Bunker and Preparation H, anyhow??"

"Xavidus, I see what you are saying.  That Stroud guy was really something.  People back in 2013 were such lying sociopaths.  Thank goodness there were valiant guardians of the future like MARIO500."

"But Zeldak, what is this thing about 'April Fool's Day'?"

"That was a most tragic day on the calendar.  I'm glad it was abolished.  According to The Humorless, Yet Completely Factual Online Encyclopedia (created from remnants of the former Wikipedia), April Fool's was outlawed in 2041."

"Good!  But whatever became of Mike Stroud?"

"Xavidus, it says here that both he and some guy named Russell Wells were banished to the corner by Mario, then given detention.  Not to mention the 40 blows with an 8-bit hammer from 'Donkey Kong.'"

"Jeepers, THAT had to hurt."

"Hey - watch your language, Xavidus!!!!!" 
 
All right, R. W. and Mario, let's cool off now. I appreciate being fought over, but believe me, it's not worth it. I don't need "Star Trek" to tell me I'm a lying sociopath; I've been that way all my life. I don't want to speak for Russell, but I think Donkey Kong knocking the tar out of me with a hammer would do me and all my acquaintances (especially them) a world of good.

More likely, by 2513, I shall be occupying the corner of hell occupied by Madison Avenue execs, Rupert Murdoch, Jerry Springer, and I-don't-know-what-all for my obsession with a quite trivial part of human existence. Life will be an endless series of reruns of cable news, "Family Matters," Howard Cosell, and "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo," with no PBS, baseball, or Super Bowls to break the monotony. Forget about lakes of fire; that's bad enough! Hear this warning and repent ye all.
 
Mario-500 said:
Message to future Internet researchers:

The first post was created for the purpose of fooling people in celebration of April Fools' Day.

If future Internet researchers had read the last line of the original post, they would have learned all they needed to know.

Perhaps you missed it?
 
Mike Stroud said:
All right, R. W. and Mario, let's cool off now. I appreciate being fought over, but believe me, it's not worth it. I don't need "Star Trek" to tell me I'm a lying sociopath; I've been that way all my life. I don't want to speak for Russell, but I think Donkey Kong knocking the tar out of me with a hammer would do me and all my acquaintances (especially them) a world of good.

More likely, by 2513, I shall be occupying the corner of hell occupied by Madison Avenue execs, Rupert Murdoch, Jerry Springer, and I-don't-know-what-all for my obsession with a quite trivial part of human existence. Life will be an endless series of reruns of cable news, "Family Matters," Howard Cosell, and "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo," with no PBS, baseball, or Super Bowls to break the monotony. Forget about lakes of fire; that's bad enough! Hear this warning and repent ye all.

Absolutely, we all need the ego-check of such a bludgeoning.   

Sorry for dragging you into this.  The fact is, if it wasn't you, it would've been someone else.  A person can reach a point where someone else's WAY over-the-top posts/lectures, etc. (which come across like a 7th grade hall monitor), are impossible to let slide without responding with a bit of snark. 

The hell you describe? That's most of TV already; not to mention that I live barely 150 miles from "Honey Boo Boo"'s home in McIntyre (or "mack-in-tar"), Georgia.  A former high school classmate of my wife's has been around HBB's mother (June) through her involvement in the 'toddlers/tiaras' circuit.  Egad.

And we won't talk about my own "trivial" afflictions.

In short, I'm already screwed.   

--Russell
 
Mike Stroud said:
That the real reason that Henry Winkler did not grease his hair for his Fonzie character on "Happy Days," as would have been authentic for the 1950s, was due to the fact that doctors discovered that the hair follicles on Winkler's scalp actually emitted miniscule flames of butane? Thus, it was not for nothing that people in Hollywood considered Winkler a "hot head."

The last sentence was actually a jab at Winkler's propensity for liberal political activism.
...Winkler backed George W. Bush, no liberal he, in the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections. Who's the fool now, Mike?...
 
dhett said:
Mario-500 said:
Message to future Internet researchers:

The first post was created for the purpose of fooling people in celebration of April Fools' Day.

If future Internet researchers had read the last line of the original post, they would have learned all they needed to know.

Perhaps you missed it?

No.
 
Mario-500 said:
dhett said:
Mario-500 said:
Message to future Internet researchers:

The first post was created for the purpose of fooling people in celebration of April Fools' Day.

If future Internet researchers had read the last line of the original post, they would have learned all they needed to know.

Perhaps you missed it?

No.

Then your objection was unwarranted and your comment superfluous.
 
Ultimajock said:
Mike Stroud said:
That the real reason that Henry Winkler did not grease his hair for his Fonzie character on "Happy Days," as would have been authentic for the 1950s, was due to the fact that doctors discovered that the hair follicles on Winkler's scalp actually emitted miniscule flames of butane? Thus, it was not for nothing that people in Hollywood considered Winkler a "hot head."

The last sentence was actually a jab at Winkler's propensity for liberal political activism.
...Winkler backed George W. Bush, no liberal he, in the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections. Who's the fool now, Mike?...

Yes, sir, looks like I gotta eat crow here. Thanks for setting the record straight. That's what I get when I rely on half-remembered magazine or TV stories from the past.

Now if I could get this playground in order on this post, and get these brats to quit a-fightin'-an'-a-feudin' ...
 
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