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Didn't take Andre Knott long to pull out the knife

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So it's really, really hot out today, so I elect to sit in my garage for a bit to stay cool. I have the radio on, and my only choice for local sports talk, sadly, is 'TAM. Paul Rado, who in my mind could be the WORST host of any format in town, leads things off. Horrendous doesn't do him justice. Then, the new kid, Andre Knott comes on. As I've stated before, I've never been as impressed with him as others have been. I think many like him because so few new voices get a chance in this town. But that's an old discussion.

So Knott is going on and on about the Winslow situation. How he and his co-horts were so mistreated by Senior on Friday night. Rule number one, kid, NOBODY wants to hear a media member bitch and moan how badly they're being treated; most folks have nothing but distain for reporters in all reality. Then, he takes off his gloves in dealing with his former employer, WKNR. Words to this effect were spoken: "I was there with the other TV and newspaper reporters....of course, I was the only radio reporter there. The college station in town can't seem to figure things out."

We all know our feelings about the "college station", 'KNR. But I was taken aback a bit. Here's a kid, who in all reality, was given a MUCH bigger shot on-air in this town because of the afore-mentioned college station...a kid who paid no dues in smaller markets...a kid who has had the world handed to him, when many, many others in town who have paid their dues, have earned their stripes, and who are more deserving, continue to be under-utilized...decide to stick-it to 'KNR. I was more than surprised. 'KNR gave him tons of air-time when he didn't earn 1/10th of it. He worked cheap, so Luczak threw him on. 'KNR got him this job at 'TAM, and to thank them, he bashes them? Classless, in my opinion.

I guess I'm just tired of all the bad-mouthing that goes on in this business. Call me old-school, but it just seemed like a pot-shot that he had no right or business to level. The "college station" helped give him a career that others are more deserving of, in my opinion. So just be grateful and move on with some class and dignity.

Just my two cents.....
 
I didnt hear Andre today but I disagree.

Theres nothing wrong with him taking shots at WKNR. While you can say that they "gave him his shot" the fact is that there are other individuals at that station who are less deserving and received more airtime than Andre (Neil Bender, Bob Karlovec - dont get me going on Brinda) By no means is Andre polished - he still has a way to go but hes still more entertaining than anyone KNR has outside of Roda, and Kenny is a bit cheesy at times. I have no problem with him taking his shots because now hes the one who can turn around and laugh. While KNR refused to give him more of an opportunity outside of Browns postgames, now Andre has a weekly show and a great job as Browns beat reporter on the biggest station in town.

It is kind of ironic that Luzcak pulled his head out of his hind quarters and started giving the kids weekend airtime w/ the new Saturday show on KNR RIGHT after Andre left. Even though I'm not a fan of any of those guys its funny that it took losing Knott for Luczak to give the kids a consistant show.

We can argue whether or not his dig at KNR was necessary but we cant argue its validity.

-jimmyradio
 
Young Andre, WKNR Comments and WTAM

> We can argue whether or not his dig at KNR was necessary but
> we cant argue its validity.

I didn't hear Andre's show or the comment, either, so I'm not going to comment directly on it.

I am just going to note that it's not surprising, given the general nature of the 'TAM staff's attitude towards 'KNR. Heck, Triv takes potshots at his alleged afternoon drive competition over there, Mr. Roda, on a semi-regular basis. When Andre got over to Oak Tree, they probably showered him with "aren't you glad to be out of the college station?" comments.

I chalk it up to that, his youth and inexperience, and the general nature of things. And really, it seems like everyone who gets out from under a relationship with that station doesn't seem thrilled with them. Just ask Paul Belfi...whose comments make Andre's comments about his former radio home seem tame. Or just ask Rich Passan, who painted an unfavorable comparison between 'KNR PD Michael Luczak and someone who carries a pitchfork in mythology.

Andre's young, and attitude is what 'TAM wants. And really, 'KNR COULD have done more with Andre on the air...a night show after Roda or a regular weekend gig would have been a no-brainer.

-OA
 
why do they have to bash?

i do get tired of insecure radio personalities who have the need to bash someone else, triv does it all the time, keene will, and brinda and roda try to also. i think they should all shut up and work on their on-air presentation. most big time sports talkers don't feel the need to bash their competition. i would much rather here some useful, well thoughtout info than personal attacks, or station to station attacks it just makes them look foolish. also no one needs to here any talker, sports, or morning drive guys try to pump up themselves by telling us how good they are... we all know that you could put just about anyone with a bit of talent in certain situations, and they would thrive ( TAM mornings, and afternoons, hint, hint) ... here is a familiar exchange in the pm drive...


:00 - :05 news
:05 - :07 commercials...
:07 - :09 timekilling banter
:09 - :11 commecial for traffic, traffic guy harrasment, traffic report...
:11 - :14 banter, review of plain dealer
:14 - :17 commercials
:17 - :20 useless banter with sports update guy... then one minute sports update
:20 - :22 traffic guy banter/traffic update,/traffic guy banter...commercial out
:22 - :25 commercials
:25 - :26 "live read " commecial
:26 - :29 witty banter and teasing, maybe a phone call
:29 - :30 " uh oh we are running late!" news brought to you by. and intro news.

************ now repeat that every 30 minutes*********************

any comments, did i forget anything, i honestly think that cleveland could use a topic driven afternoon show , there is actually alot to listen to in the mornings, i do actually think slats does a decent job on 92.3 with his guests... but then you have to listen to thier way too bland playlist... i usually opt for a repeat of rome on 930 when i can get a signal....<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by westsidecleve on 06/06/05 04:30 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: why do they have to bash?

> i do get tired of insecure radio personalities who have the
> need to bash someone else, triv does it all the time, keene
> will, and brinda and roda try to also. i think they should
> all shut up and work on their on-air presentation.

OA summed it up best about Triv in PM drive. He IS vulnerable. It's already been proven when Opie and Anthony were on. I wouldn't doubt that if O&A didn't commit career suicide & were still on, Triv would *probably* be out of a job. Or his show would have gone under a significant overhaul.

Triv can bash WKNR all he wants because he knows they can't touch him in the ratings. That's like a high school senior picking on a 7th grader. Triv likes to make his little comments about Lanigan and Stern, as well. Fact is, Triv can only pray that he has anything remotely close to the longevity and success that both of them have had.
 
The Mind of Triv and His Competition

(OK, quit snickering at the subject header, folks! :D)

> I wouldn't doubt that if O&A didn't commit career
> suicide & were still on, Triv would *probably* be out of a
> job. Or his show would have gone under a significant
> overhaul.

My only question is - did O&A have staying power? They came on strong, to be sure.

Assuming they did, I don't know if Triv would have been out of a job. But if forced with the need to adjust the show with O&A stealing the top slot from him, my guess is that they've have nudged him more towards a 100% sports talk show. It'd be the easiest adjustment, as that's his topic strength (quit laughing, folks!), and he doesn't really have much flexibility to do anything else. And he'd still beat Roda in the numbers, more than likely, and the rejiggered show would continue to fit in with the station's mission and wouldn't take much for them to accomplish, as he's already about 80% of the way there now. And making it a fully sports show, still with the "comedic" elements it has now, would have given 'TAM a distinct difference from the "hot talk" of O&A on 92.3.

If Triv were Triv and doing the show he does now on a non-dominant station, as opposed to WTAM, and O&A were still around...maybe he would lose his job. But not only is this all speculation...he IS on WTAM, and that alone carries some ratings weight for him, even with competition. And O&A did indeed commit career suicide.

> Triv can bash WKNR all he wants because he knows they can't
> touch him in the ratings. That's like a high school senior
> picking on a 7th grader. Triv likes to make his little
> comments about Lanigan and Stern, as well. Fact is, Triv
> can only pray that he has anything remotely close to the
> longevity and success that both of them have had.

Lanigan and Stern, of course, are not in his time slot, which makes them easier targets for Triv's little comments. ;) Either one, up against him in afternoon drive, would turn Triv into a TRIVia (get it? ;) question inside of a year. And he knows it.

-OA
 
Re: The Mind of Triv and His Competition

> My only question is - did O&A have staying power? They came
> on strong, to be sure.
>
> Assuming they did, I don't know if Triv would have been out
> of a job. But if forced with the need to adjust the show
> with O&A stealing the top slot from him, my guess is that
> they've have nudged him more towards a 100% sports talk
> show. It'd be the easiest adjustment, as that's his topic
> strength (quit laughing, folks!), and he doesn't really have
> much flexibility to do anything else. And he'd still beat
> Roda in the numbers, more than likely, and the rejiggered
> show would continue to fit in with the station's mission and
> wouldn't take much for them to accomplish, as he's already
> about 80% of the way there now. And making it a fully
> sports show, still with the "comedic" elements it has now,
> would have given 'TAM a distinct difference from the "hot
> talk" of O&A on 92.3.
>
> If Triv were Triv and doing the show he does now on a
> non-dominant station, as opposed to WTAM, and O&A were still
> around...maybe he would lose his job. But not only is this
> all speculation...he IS on WTAM, and that alone carries some
> ratings weight for him, even with competition. And O&A did
> indeed commit career suicide.

It's hard to tell if O&A would still be around. IMO, I think they would be -- even post-Super Bowl Halftime 2004. Although I would think their show would be heavily-delayed and edited. But then again, they could've pulled a Stern at the end of a contract and bolted to sattelite, instead of dealing with the belt being buckled so tight over what they can/can not say.

Of course, all we can do is speculate. But it definitely would've been fun to see a pretty heated PM Drive battle going on in this city. I can't even remember the last time that happened.

My comments about Triv *possibly* (can't stress that enough) being out of job would be a last resort after tweaks, etc. And *if* Triv consistenly gets his male demographic handed to him book-after-book (or moreso than not). It's about time he was brought back down to earth for a book or two. I'll bet his attitude would change then.

Actually, he'd probably do what he does when coaches are let go in this town. He kisses their butts while they're hear and when they're let go, they probably haven't even had their luggage unloaded at Hopkins and Triv has already put his 2nd face on. He'd do the same thing to the listeners who baile on him.

But as you pointed out, he was quickly dethroaned before. It obviously doesn't take all that much when you get content that is compelling enough for that male demo.
 
Re: why do they have to bash?

> i
> usually opt for a repeat of rome on 930 when i can get a
> signal....

Do you mean WFUN/970 out of Astabula? Unless if WEOL/930 is secretly encoding Romey into their signal during PMD, and I certainally doubt that ;D

Seriously, Triv, and WTAM as a whole, is just too damn irritating to listen to. What could be a great station is too trite, overproduced, and cloying. And they STILL are oversold as a whole - "Less is More" my butt! Thank God that they have at least two objectionable hosts in Andre and Schwabbie - otherwise, I'd petition WTAM to re-brand itself "Homer 1100!"

I haven't touched WTAM for several weeks, and I don't care at all. Think about it:

I can get my local news (being from Avon, of course) on WEOL,
Glenn Beck's now on WEOL,
and the Indians, Cavs, Browns and OSU are all on WEOL.
Hannity is on WHLO/640,
Ed Schultz is now on WARF/1350,
and Mitch Albom is on WJR/760 - and, mysteriously, WEOL.

There's no need for me to turn on "The Big One." Sorry, Kevin Methany.

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio

http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
 
Re: The Mind of Triv and His Competition

good content and a good host would definately put triv to the test, but TAM does have the market cornered on news, i think even sports news.. and regular traffic.

i have pointed it out before, but most of the pm drive on TAM consist of everything BUT triv.. he is just there to fill space between news, traffic, sports news, and plenty of commercials....

their very, very bad attempt at comedy, and the "zoo" kind of show is pathetic, kim, marty, and paul are not a very good on air supporting cast.... poor parodies, and laughing at nothing fills the air.......
>


btw,, it is 970( for rome),,, i had a mental hiccup
 
Re: The Mind of Triv and His Competition

>he is just there to fill space


You are right. NOBODY can fill space like Triv!
 
Re: The Mind of Triv and His Competition

> >he is just there to fill space
>
>
> You are right. NOBODY can fill space like Triv!
>

Is that any way to talk about a Mel Gibson look-alike? :)
 
Re: The Mind of Triv and His Competition

> >he is just there to fill space
>
>
> You are right. NOBODY can fill space like Triv!

Hah! :D

I'm very curious if anyone has done research on this: How many of Triv's listeners are there solely for the station's drive time service elements? (news, traffic, weather, sports, etc.)

I know for myself, there are many days when I'm just not in the mood to hear whatever Triv's going on about, and I'll dip into and out of WTAM at TOH and BOH.

-OA
 
Re: The Mind of Triv and His Competition

>
> I'm very curious if anyone has done research on this: How
> many of Triv's listeners are there solely for the station's
> drive time service elements? (news, traffic, weather,
> sports, etc.)

I'll admit to it. When I was working day shift, I'd tune WTAM simply for the news/traffic updates and grit my teeth through Triv. Although if I was finding him more irritating than usual, I'd fall back simply hitting TOH/BOH.
 
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