Didn't the combined XHRM/Walrus/etc. split last year?

[GeorgeJ.]

I thought that the big combo of XHRM/Z90/91X/Walrus/XERB etc. split up late last year & were now two different companies?

But they still seem to be located in the same suite and have the same phone number...

So even though San Diego LLC and Local Media Of America are different companies, they are still co-located, sharing the same office and phone number?

A bit odd. Maybe KSIQ can move in too.

 

[hiphopharry]

I was at the building a couple of weeks ago and asked about the construction happening. They said Local Media is moving into the new location within the same building by the end of the month. Looked as if they are doing an entire buildout and new offices. I could see the framing through the windows.

 

[SDRadio]

George, 1090 has not been XERB for many years! XERB is broadcasting at 810 AM in Cozumel, Quintana Roo. The call letters are XEPRS "Express".

LMA and Radio San Diego are on different paths as 'hiphopharry' writes.

KSIQ's signal doesn't reach that part of San Diego -- and currently, the translator/booster/repeater is not on from Mount San Miguel. I can get the Campo station when driving the 67; but that's a quick fade once down the grade to Slaughterhouse Canyon Road. Cherry Creek should be embarrassed about the move in and the failure of their plan of serving San Diego south of the 8-Freeway. At this point, the company should not be blaming a T-1 failure.

 

[600kogo]

Now now Chris dont beat up on George too much...I still refuse to call 1360 KLSD, Its either KGB AM or KPOP to me. Just because a company strips a station of its heritage doesnt mean Im going to acknowledge it LOL! For me its more of a protest! I still call 910 KDEO as well and 710 in Beverly Hills KMPC. Stubborn is inherrited!! LOL

 

[SDRadio]

No worries, Scott! No worries, George. It is still XERB to many fans here in San Diego.

We need ya Scott back here in San Diego! Hearing that may happen by March. It'll be good for the community.

 

[davideduardo]

Now now Chris dont beat up on George too much...I still refuse to call 1360 KLSD, Its either KGB AM or KPOP to me. Just because a company strips a station of its heritage doesnt mean Im going to acknowledge it LOL! For me its more of a protest! I still call 910 KDEO as well and 710 in Beverly Hills KMPC. Stubborn is inherrited!! LOL

"Heritage" is only of value if you run a museum or teach history.

The Oldsmobile is a heritage car. To most of the population today, it stands for a car for seniors... old seniors.

Hudson is a heritage car. The people who remember it still were probably not old enough to drive one when they were still sold.

KGB is like the Olds. It could not keep the interest of younger consumers, and as those who thought positively about it got older and older, the name, the heritage, the tradition became meaningless because nobody under 50 or 60 considered it an option and the brand, with all its heritage, died.

Top 40 and indeed AM music formats for anyone outside the geezer demos have died. KGB stood for something that was no longer attractive. The best way to think about this is to consider KGB to have closed for lack of business, being replaced in the Radio Mall by a new store that has nothing to do with the old one.

As a rule, formats don't change for any reason except lack of success. Heritage is of no value if nobody listens. And, in most radio cases, the "heritage listeners" are out of the sales demos and of no business value.

KMPC died because it did not keep its target audience constant; instead, it aged with the listeners. It did not keep up and refresh, inviting new listeners in to replace the ones that aged out of it. So they moved out of the usable demos and then went into competition with the undertakers of LA who seemed to be taking their cume. And the situation is not unique: WGN and KGO, legendary stations, are around 20th in 25-54 (except in baseball season for WGN) and will ease out of the billing peaks they enjoyed.

 

[600kogo]

David I am well aware of the demise of KMPC. And the KGB branding is only being killed by a corporation made up of bean counters like yourself that love tight rotation and not taking chances. The original KGB 1360 was changed to seperate itself from the FM counterpart to keep building on the KGB brand name. As well as it was changed to build the CNN all news format and the calls changed to reflect that KCNN. Top-40 music on AM did not work anymore and Brown Broadcasting realized that. KGB with some work could be made very viable again, but with Classic Rock, Classic Country, and Classic Hits/Oldies you have to grow the format or the station dies!! The problem is that CC is playing classic rock, and 90's and 2000's rock on 105.3 that should already be on KGB and keep KIOZ doing the top Rock then they would have 2 viable stations.

And as for your taking a dump on our view of the history and herritage of the stations please keep your opion to yourself! There are those of us that can love it for what it was and should or could be! And there is nothing wrong with that, but there is something wrong with someone that goes in every room in this message board to spout his un-invited opinion!

David opinions are like rear ends everyone has one and they all stink! I dont need my opinion or my pure love of radio dumped on by you!

Myself and my friends have been working most of our lives to preserve the history and herritage of these legendary stations. Between salvaging equipment, airchecks, jingles, and anything else we can from the dumpsters!! Corporate people like you are what we have been struggling with to save a part of our American History while you rush it to the dumpster to burn it!

 

[fybush]

Corporate people like you are what we have been struggling with to save a part of our American History while you rush it to the dumpster to burn it!

Uhhhh....you have visited David's site at www.americanradiohistory.com, haven't you?

Whatever David's views may be on the business reality of radio today, I know him personally to be a very good friend of broadcast history, and he's given a tremendous gift to all of us with the time and money he's put into preserving decades of Broadcasting Yearbooks, Radio Annuals, Broadcasting Magazines, RADEXes, White's Logs and so on. The only thing David's done with dumpsters and radio history is to save a lot of the latter from the former.

You guys would have a lot to talk about if you ever got together. Just please don't confuse David's day job with the passion he shares with us, after hours, for broadcast history.

 

[davideduardo]

David I am well aware of the demise of KMPC. And the KGB branding is only being killed by a corporation made up of bean counters like yourself that love tight rotation and not taking chances. The original KGB 1360 was changed to seperate itself from the FM counterpart to keep building on the KGB brand name. As well as it was changed to build the CNN all news format and the calls changed to reflect that KCNN. Top-40 music on AM did not work anymore and Brown Broadcasting realized that. KGB with some work could be made very viable again, but with Classic Rock, Classic Country, and Classic Hits/Oldies you have to grow the format or the station dies!! The problem is that CC is playing classic rock, and 90's and 2000's rock on 105.3 that should already be on KGB and keep KIOZ doing the top Rock then they would have 2 viable stations.

Since your response is so wildly rude, unknowing and disingenuous, let me just point out a couple of undeniable facts.

1. No mainstream music station can go from FM to AM today. Using your example, the KGB AOR listeners essentially grew up in an FM only world. They have no use for AM, and a huge percentage in the San Diego market live beyond the night and even the good daytime coverage of 1360... days, in a market of 3 million, the 10 mV/m contour reaches just 1.6 million. Nights, it's waaaay under 1 million. (In major metros, it's been seen that 90% or better of AM at home and at work listening is inside the 10 mV/m contour). KGB's signal was outgrown by the market, and the listener to its format would not go to AM for it.

2. I thought that KGB-FM was separated from the AM, as when KGB became a CHR under Drake-Chennault guidance, FM was not a factor anywhere. And the AM, in 1964, was 14th. For the Top 40 audience, the KGB calls had no more heritage than KHJ did in LA or KFRC did in SF.

3. We've been through the classic country thing before. There is no chance at all of it working in SD. And classic hits is on The Walrus... it's another format that won't work on AM. The idea of classic rock on AM is almost worth giggling about.

And as for your taking a dump on our view of the history and herritage of the stations please keep your opion to yourself!

Last I checked, anyone who wants to can post here.

There are those of us that can love it for what it was and should or could be!

"What it could be" falls under the heading of "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."

As to what it was, you are painfully ill-informed about my love of radio, including its fascinating history.

David opinions are like rear ends everyone has one and they all stink! I dont need my opinion or my pure love of radio dumped on by you!

I generally find that people who resort to vulgarity, obscenity or profanity have no substantive argument and have run out of information. So they cuss and curse.

Corporate people like you are what we have been struggling with to save a part of our American History while you rush it to the dumpster to burn it!

I have about 800,000 reasons for challenging that really, really wrong statement.

 

[DoctorWu]

When you're right, you're right. (Painful though it may be.)

-- Doc