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different themes for early Andy Griffith and Beverly Hillbillies shows?

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Yesterday I channel-surfed past our local CBS affiliate in a local-programming block. They were showing episodes of the Andy Griffith show and the Beverly Hillbillies. Both appeared to have been dubbed from old and not well-preserved B&W film copies, but the opening and closing themes from both shows were different pieces of music. The opening and closing theme of the Andy Griffith show did not use that familiar whistling theme, and the Beverly Hillbillies theme did not have the "Ballad of Jed Clampett" open. The closing credits ran with a completely different piece of music I did not recognize.

What was going on there? Were those episodes from very early on in the series, maybe pilot episodes of the two shows? It sort of caught my attention and I was wondering if alternate versions of certain series are floating around.

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> Yesterday I channel-surfed past our local CBS affiliate in a
> local-programming block. They were showing episodes of the
> Andy Griffith show and the Beverly Hillbillies. Both
> appeared to have been dubbed from old and not
> well-preserved B&W film copies, but the opening and closing
> themes from both shows were different pieces of music. The
> opening and closing theme of the Andy Griffith show did not
> use that familiar whistling theme, and the Beverly
> Hillbillies theme did not have the "Ballad of Jed Clampett"
> open. The closing credits ran with a completely different
> piece of music I did not recognize.
>
> What was going on there? Were those episodes from very
> early on in the series, maybe pilot episodes of the two
> shows? It sort of caught my attention and I was wondering
> if alternate versions of certain series are floating around.

Those are the public domain editions of the Andy Griffith Show where they only show episodes from the 1962-1963 season and for the Beverly Hillbillies they are using public domain editions as well from the first 2 seasons of that show. With the Beverly Hillbillies they sometimes use an instrumental version and in another they use a different singer to sing the theme,the same goes with the ending as well. Same goes for the Andy Griffith Show in which they use new music for the theme and there are no finger snaps and whistling like they do with the original version.

Which leads to another question: Why would your local CBS affiliate show public domain episodes of the Andy Griffith Show when in fact all of the episodes,including those in color are included in the syndicated package? Paramount owns all of the rights to the show including the DVD's. I don't know about the public domain episodes whether Paramount owns these or not,but the old Viacom logo shows up from time to time.
 
> Which leads to another question: Why would your local CBS
> affiliate show public domain episodes of the Andy Griffith
> Show when in fact all of the episodes,including those in
> color are included in the syndicated package? Paramount owns
> all of the rights to the show including the DVD's. I don't
> know about the public domain episodes whether Paramount owns
> these or not,but the old Viacom logo shows up from time to
> time.

Perhaps that is my main question. The shows did have the Viacom logo at the end, but it was in B&W and it looked like it was dubbed with an old-school 16mm film chain from an old print. I suppose I could email the station and ask.

KL


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>
> Which leads to another question: Why would your local CBS
> affiliate show public domain episodes of the Andy Griffith
> Show when in fact all of the episodes,including those in
> color are included in the syndicated package? >

WIAT-42, the low-rated CBS affiliate in Birmingham, was airing the public domain episodes of the Beverly Hillbillies at 6:00 a.m. every morning until recently. And from time to time, they've also had the public domain episodes of Andy Griffith---even though WTTO-21 (WB) runs the full library of episodes every night at 10 and 10:30.
 
>
> Perhaps that is my main question. The shows did have the
> Viacom logo at the end, but it was in B&W and it looked like
> it was dubbed with an old-school 16mm film chain from an old
> print. I suppose I could email the station and ask.

Which episode was shown? Notably on the public domain episodes,"Opie And The Spoiled Kid" and "Aunt Bee's Medicine Man" among others from the 1962-1963 season show up quite often,most often seen on the DVD's that you buy at Dollar Tree,Dollar General,Wal-Mart,in all discount stores for that matter.

Personally I have the complete 1962-1963 season on DVD,the unedited version from Paramount with the original theme music and all and even the old CBS logo comes up at the end of each show.
 
I have picked up DVD and VHS copies of 7 episodes of the First Season of "Petticoat Junction" (1963-64) That had the same banjo theme as the Beverly Hillbillies Public Domain DVD shows. The first 21 episodes of "PJ" (except for the Christmas episode) have recently been released in a more "official" package through Producer Paul Henning's Estate with the "real" theme music and many extras..As well as 26 episodes of "Hillbillies" from season 1. A 3 episode Holiday Themed DVD (2 Hillbillies 1 PJ) has been released as well by MPI Home Video. All excellently done.
 
> Notably on the public domain episodes,
> "Opie And The Spoiled Kid" and "Aunt Bee's
> Medicine Man" among others from the 1962-1963
> season show up quite often...

This is enough of its own story to warrant a
sidebar question--how did certain episodes
fall into public domain? Apparently only
some from the 62-63 season?


> Personally I have the complete 1962-1963 season
> on DVD, the unedited version from Paramount with
> the original theme music and all and even the old
> CBS logo comes up at the end of each show.

So the official DVD for the third season (62-63)
also includes the PD episodes? But in this case
from the 35mm film masters with the original theme?

Also please elaborate about the "old CBS logo" at
the end of each show--is it the animated eye that
opens and closes (although that was more 1950s,
IIRC), or just from a 35mm slide? Either way it
was probably an "after-market edit" since the
program episodes came from the masters in the
Paramount vaults and the system cues (CTNs) used
by CBS in the early 60s were probably pretty simple--
one or two slides (ending with the eyeball) and a
live booth announcer.
 
> Also please elaborate about the "old CBS logo" at
> the end of each show--is it the animated eye that
> opens and closes (although that was more 1950s,
> IIRC), or just from a 35mm slide? Either way it
> was probably an "after-market edit" since the
> program episodes came from the masters in the
> Paramount vaults and the system cues (CTNs) used
> by CBS in the early 60s were probably pretty simple--
> one or two slides (ending with the eyeball) and a
> live booth announcer.

Yes,it's the animated eye that opens and closes which says CBS Television Production(no live booth announcer saying "This Is A CBS Television Production") and then the newer Paramount logo appears afterwards. It appears at the end of every show on each DVD set of the Andy Griffith Show. All of the episodes that are on the DVD are the original deal,unedited and music intact.
 
Possibly while some episodes of these programs may now be under public domain, the music is still under copyright protection. This happened to the Star Trek episode "City on the Edge of Forever" and the song "Good Night, Sweetheart" was removed from VHS/DVD copies because of a rights dispute.

Sometimes different openings are used for programs in syndication (especially if the program is still on network with newer episodes). This happened with "I Love Lucy" (the familiar "heart" logo was used in syndication; the cartoon figures were used on the network version). And with the Lone Ranger (Fred Foy's voice was used when the program went to syndication; Gerald Mohr did the opening in the original network run).

The opening and closing "eye" was the logo for CBS Films, the one-time syndication arm of CBS. This logo was not used on the network. The government ordered CBS to sell CBS Films. They changed their name to Viacom and eventually Viacom bought CBS.

The pilot episode of The Beverly Hillbillies did include the "Ballad of Jed Clampett." This episode begings with the shot of the Clampetts driving down a street in Beverly Hills on their truck (which comes after the ballad in all other episodes). Paul Henning added the "back story" ballad because CBS was concerned people would not understand how the hillbillies got to Beverly Hills.



> Yesterday I channel-surfed past our local CBS affiliate in a
> local-programming block. They were showing episodes of the
> Andy Griffith show and the Beverly Hillbillies. Both
> appeared to have been dubbed from old and not
> well-preserved B&W film copies, but the opening and closing
> themes from both shows were different pieces of music. The
> opening and closing theme of the Andy Griffith show did not
> use that familiar whistling theme, and the Beverly
> Hillbillies theme did not have the "Ballad of Jed Clampett"
> open. The closing credits ran with a completely different
> piece of music I did not recognize.
>
> What was going on there? Were those episodes from very
> early on in the series, maybe pilot episodes of the two
> shows? It sort of caught my attention and I was wondering
> if alternate versions of certain series are floating around.
>
>
> KL
>
 
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I recall that during the network run of "The Beverly Hillbillies", the opening theme music was about ten seconds or so longer than in the syndicated reruns.

These ten extra seconds came at the end of the opening theme music, and would identify the sponsor (I recall the music mentioning Kellogg's cereals, including part of the Kellogg's jingle of the period, while the Clampetts' antique car drove past a Kellogg's billboard on Rodeo Drive) .
 
Re:Longer Original Hillbillies Theme

> I recall that during the network run of "The Beverly
> Hillbillies", the opening theme music was about ten seconds
> or so longer than in the syndicated reruns.
>
> These ten extra seconds came at the end of the opening theme
> music, and would identify the sponsor (I recall the music
> mentioning Kellogg's cereals, including part of the
> Kellogg's jingle of the period, while the Clampetts'
> antique car drove past a Kellogg's billboard on Rodeo Drive)
> .
>

That's Right Joseph. The Official BH sets I spoke of above have the extended opening..every other week for Winston Cigarettes as well. With many commercials for both Kelloggs and Winston as one of the extras
 
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