I think "burn out" is more accurate for songs that were popular than "stiff out".
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Differentiating a hit or stiff after its chart run?
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I think "burn out" is more accurate for songs that were popular than "stiff out".
We were just getting into listener based research when disco died. In a matter of a few months, there were no new hits, and the all-disco stations just fell out of the top ratings positions. Almost instantaneous, in fact.
Take a look at him now….
"I Don't Care Anymore" 😑.
Unfortunately, he looks like Mr. Magoo. He barely made it through the last Genesis tour. I always liked him, but Time has no sentimentality for aging rockers...
He has a spinal condition, as well as diabetes:
Steve Hackett says Phil Collins ‘doesn’t deserve what happened to him’
Prog rock pioneer’s bandmates have offered regular updates on his health, following what was billed as Genesis’s last ever show in 2022
www.the-independent.com
Musician Phil Collins can ‘barely hold’ a drumstick as health deteriorates
The 70-year-old singer and drummer calls his upcoming Genesis tour putting the band ‘to bed’
www.theguardian.com
I wasn't making light of his ailments. He's been struggling for several years. It was a bit surprising when Genesis toured a couple years ago. He had to sit in a chair on stage.He has a spinal condition, as well as diabetes:
Steve Hackett says Phil Collins ‘doesn’t deserve what happened to him’
Prog rock pioneer’s bandmates have offered regular updates on his health, following what was billed as Genesis’s last ever show in 2022
Musician Phil Collins can ‘barely hold’ a drumstick as health deteriorates
The 70-year-old singer and drummer calls his upcoming Genesis tour putting the band ‘to bed’
Many musicians still need to make a living and that's why they tour. Some enjoy it, but it takes a toll...
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Good point. A song is seen as a stiff in its first few weeks. A song that becomes a hit and then goes negative is not a stiff, it is burnt out.
Like cadavers, stiffs do not resuscitate. That is why they use that morbid term. At some stations, we have actually held "morbosity" meetings to analyze the last few month's worth of stiffs; the idea is to see if there are any nescient trends underlying the cause for songs we thought were good... that stiffed.
How valuable is the number of paid "downloads"? I remember a program director once said, "if someone is willing to buy a record that is a commitment. A lot of folks will never get to go to a concert but they can buy the record". Of course now it's downloads. I guess some audio purists still buy vinal but a huge percentage of the music that is sold is digital. Of course novilty songs don't count.