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DIRECTV wants it's MTV

Viacom I guess is not playing nice with Directv, Directv posted this on FACEBOOK....

DIRECTV has absolutely no intention of removing your favorite Viacom networks like Nickelodeon, Comedy Central or MTV. But, unfortunately, Viacom executives sent a letter to us today, forcing us to take these channels down by midnight tomorrow if we don’t come to an agreement.

We asked Viacom to allow us to keep the channels up while we continue to negotiate but they refused. They are using this tactic to try and leverage over a 30% increase (that’s an additional one billion dollars) from our customers. We’re working diligently on a new agreement to keep making these channels available at a fair price to our customers.

But in the meantime, ask Viacom to do the right thing and give DIRECTV the permission to keep these channels on while we continue to negotiate. We will also ask Viacom to keep making these networks available during any of our private business discussions.

I say "WHO CARES!"
 
I just saw this tonight on my program guide; this situation happened quick and abruptly. Usually these programming disputes are given notice publicly days, if not weeks, in advance.

These programming disputes are getting real tiring, and I just read elsewhere today that Hearst TV and Time Warner Cable/Bright House are in a dispute that can affect several markets such as Milwaukee, Kansas City, Orlando, Honolulu, and others.
 
Oh, what would I do without my ad-bloated, runtime-damning sitcom fix on TV Land! :D
 
DToTheJ said:
Oh, what would I do without my ad-bloated, runtime-damning sitcom fix on TV Land! :D

Vivian Vance talking like a chipmunk. Doris Roberts on speed.
 
The only Viacom networks that haven't been completely homogenized into a general entertainment network are BET, Nickelodeon, Nick Jr., and Teen Nick. One can argue though that even these networks have gone way down hill compared to what they once were.

MTV, VH1, VH1 Classic, CMT, Logo, Spike, and TV Land are a complete waste of time (and brain cells). Neither myself nor my kids will miss these networks if they disappear tomorrow night.
 
DIRECTV is surprisingly been very open with their customers about this specific carriage dispute, giving many details that most cable/satellite providers do not provide with their carriage disputes.

I think it's a bold move for DIRECTV to encourage viewers to their "competitors" and watch Viacom shows on the internet, Netflix, Hulu and Apple TV.

Check out their website:
www.directvpromise.com
 
radiojomo said:
DIRECTV is surprisingly been very open with their customers about this specific carriage dispute, giving many details that most cable/satellite providers do not provide with their carriage disputes.

I think it's a bold move for DIRECTV to encourage viewers to their "competitors" and watch Viacom shows on the internet, Netflix, Hulu and Apple TV.

Check out their website:
www.directvpromise.com

But the only way to get these "competitors" is with high-speed broadband from the competitor they don't want you to turn to, cable TV (including Verizon & AT&T). Or am I missing an option? ;D
 
ajc_trw said:
But the only way to get these "competitors" is with high-speed broadband from the competitor they don't want you to turn to, cable TV (including Verizon & AT&T). Or am I missing an option? ;D

Very true! In the process of getting a high speed connection, the bundling deals they have with their cable/IPTV offerings are very sweet.
I bundled DIRECTV through AT&T my with U-Verse high speed internet because they have a deal setup. But in the process of signing up for more services with AT&T, I have been tempted to try out U-Verse because it would be $30 less than what I'm paying with DIRECTV.
 
If Viacom advertisers don't reach DirectTV viewers, it's VIACOM'S problem.

They seem to FORGET that.

Viacom from day one never wanted to play nice with the satellites. They are one of the big CABLE companies. And CABLE is their stock and trade. But times are different now. There are a million ways to get more bang for your advertising dollar and if Viacom is going to resort to games like this, THEY are going to be the ones who pay dear for it.

Public opinion doesn't care about the cable/satellite war, they just want to see their TV shows. And advertisers DEMAND results. Viacom should learn to accept that and quit acting so petulant. There's a REASON why people have switched from cable to satellite.

They're NOT going to put the genie back inside the bottle any more than radio can stop the webcasters. They have to learn to adapt and accept a few ugly new realities (like namely LOWERING the prices of cable TV maybe?) I spend over $100 a month for Comcast and I'm really getting tired of this. TV should NOT be THIS expensive.
 
I find this disturbing on both parts. While out visiting I saw the competing ads about the dispute and had to laugh at both points. Here's my take on it:

DirecTV: Makes more money than God by ripping off people who have been with them for eons by charging the an extra $10/month for HD. For the record, this is why I dropped these crooks. These guys have to be making money hand over fist for what they offer.

Viacom: Another greedy corporate bunch whose programming has hit the toilet. TV Land? C'mon! It's become a joke with Extreme Makeover and other shows that made the network depart from what was once a "family friendly" environment. This is before you factor in the odd start times, excessive ad inventory and sped-up programming. Viacom can choke on their choice to pull the plug and I hope their advertisers jump ship, too!

They both made their bed and now they have to contend with the consequences.
 
And so unfolds Day 1 of the carriage dispute between DirecTV and Viacom. I bet Viacom wins this battle and gets its price hike in ten days or so.
 
I just hope it is not like the MSG, SNY and YES sports networks and Dish Networks dispute since October 2010. Fortunately this is rerun season and not many new shows on and the Summer Olympics will crush Nick, MTV, etc anyway. After the Olympics, it would be more pressure for a deal to be reached as fall promos start airing. Which dispute will be solved first AMC and Dish or Viacom and Directv?
 
They have moved all Viacom channels to end of the guide and now about 17 channels
say "to be announced". Maybe they will put some movies and shows on there that people
can actually watch.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
TV Land? C'mon! It's become a joke with Extreme Makeover and other shows that made the network depart from what was once a "family friendly" environment...

Not as big a joke as CMT with its Pauly Shore movies.

(More) money for nothing, as Dire Straits would say...
 
Apollo7979 said:
The only Viacom networks that haven't been completely homogenized into a general entertainment network are BET, Nickelodeon, Nick Jr., and Teen Nick. One can argue though that even these networks have gone way down hill compared to what they once were. MTV, VH1, VH1 Classic, CMT, Logo, Spike, and TV Land are a complete waste of time (and brain cells). Neither myself nor my kids will miss these networks if they disappear tomorrow night.
So far, you've circled the wagon as well as anyone on this thread. As my service provider, I appreciate DirecTV standing their ground in the dispute over fee increases for ratings-challenged flop services. To do otherwise would be a disservice to their subscribers.
 
The big problem for Viacom is going to be that they truly have no "must see" programming going on for the next few months. Primarily in the sports category. Usually, big sporting events are used as leverage to get carriage deals done. But Viacom doesn't have a network that carries premium programming like sports.
This would be different for a content provider like NBC Universal, because they're carrying the Olympics this summer. Disney/ESPN because they're carrying the second half of baseball season. Fox because they also hold a lot of local baseball team rights.
As far as Viacom goes, they have made their content widely available on the third screen that it is possible that DIRECTV can go months without being severely affected if they direct their customers to where they can find this programming, along with providing alternative options.
 
radiojomo said:
The big problem for Viacom is going to be that they truly have no "must see" programming going on for the next few months. Primarily in the sports category. Usually, big sporting events are used as leverage to get carriage deals done. But Viacom doesn't have a network that carries premium programming like sports.
This would be different for a content provider like NBC Universal, because they're carrying the Olympics this summer. Disney/ESPN because they're carrying the second half of baseball season. Fox because they also hold a lot of local baseball team rights.
As far as Viacom goes, they have made their content widely available on the third screen that it is possible that DIRECTV can go months without being severely affected if they direct their customers to where they can find this programming, along with providing alternative options.

there are the VMAs on eMpTV
 
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