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Discuss the latest 12 + ratings

Don't worry, I won't actually mention the actual ratings numbers.Just checking out the 12+ numbers on radioandrecords.com:--Slight uptick for WEEI and WRKO, and WTKK.. Highest ratings inawhile for Mike 93.7...The Air America/prog. talkers in a tie forlast. WBCN slightly lower, but their BIG fall was the lossof Howard last period before this one. Traditionally strong stations like Oldies 103.3,WMJX, JAM'n 94.5, and Kiss 108 still doing fairly well.As Laurence Glavin noted on boston-radio-interest, the addition of Hannity doesn't do anything for WTTT in the 12+ ratings (no show). Wonder if Worcester's WCRN will appear in the NEXT book, with switch to talk(Blute, Carr, etc.)WAMG/WLLH (ESPN) and WWZN (Sporting News) where art thou? And Glavin noted that WILD (AM)'s"black talk" also a no-show in ratings (they're gospel on weekends). Of course, it's said for talk stationsit's the 25-54 numbers that really count, and I have no access to those.
 
WHRB, Harvard University's commercially-licensed though non-profit volunteer college station, made the ratings for the first time I can remember seeing!Perhaps people are already looking for classical alternatives since the news came out about WCRB's imminent format demise? (Speaking of which, their ratings also keep ticking up as they approach the end of the format).Either that, or WHRB's spring "Orgy" special programming was more popular than usual this season.
 
racconradio said:
Don't worry, I won't actually mention the actual ratings numbers.
Why not. Wouldn't that be one of the points about having a board, to talk freely about ratings?
 
Read the rukes regarding posting of Arbitron numbers in our FAQ's HERE. Basically, the numbers can be discussed, You just cannot "reprint" or post them as a list, such as WXYZ 1.1 WABC 2.2 WMNO 3.3. If there are any questions about this, please ask. We do want the forum to be friendly, and with limited restrictions. The Arbitron rule is one that we are obligated to follow.
 
Managing Board Editor said:
Read the rukes regarding posting of Arbitron numbers in our FAQ's HERE. Basically, the numbers can be discussed, You just cannot "reprint" or post them as a list, such as WXYZ 1.1 WABC 2.2 WMNO 3.3. If there are any questions about this, please ask. We do want the forum to be friendly, and with limited restrictions. The Arbitron rule is one that we are obligated to follow.
Thanks for clearing that up. I would love to find out how Boston's morning shows shook out sans Howard, but haven't been able to find them anywhere :(
 
Yes, it's interesting to see how ratings react when formats are changed; when programsend (loss of Stern on WBCN) or a lineup is fine-tuned; when a station gets more poweror changes its transmitter site, etc. We can talk about it but not give actual numbers.The numbers can be seen at radioandrecords.com--the 12 +, at least. Only those withaccess/subscribers can see the 25-54s.
 
A post at another website stated that the Arbitrends just out reflect Feb/Mar/Apr listening and the Orgies started in early May, and the W. A. Mozart orgy started in the second week of the month. WHRB's appearance reflected regular programming it appears.
 
Raccoon - I hope you read Clea Simon's column where WRKO fell behind a Progressive talk station on the FM thathappens to also be a "college station", NPR.Eli, can you enlighten us regarding the ratings for WBUR? Very interesting. Very interesting...
 
which one, WBUR? are they in the ratings (12 +)--I heard something about them always having high ratings but people never hear about it. (And WBUR would be more of a public than college station, despite the BU connection...how many BU students are on there..?)"Where have all the liberals gone, long time passing? Where have the progressives gone, on radio?They're not hearing AAR...they just tune to 'BUR...great ratings, we have learned, great ratingswe...have learned..." (apologies to Pete Seegar)http://www.massinc.org/index.php?id=525&pub_id=1844&bypass=1"With nearly 500,000 listeners per week, WBUR is among the most-listened-to radio stations in Boston and one of the most successful public stations in the country."
 
GET OUT!! Clea Simon made a mistake in her column?..........How has she not been fired yet or at least taken off of the radio beat? I have yet to see one of her writings on radio that did not contain SOME error, call letters, or frequency I mean really, really basic stuff that even LISTENERS know!>
 
Varulven said:
Raccoon - I hope you read Clea Simon's column where WRKO fell behind a Progressive talk station on the FM that happens to also be a "college station", NPR. Eli, can you enlighten us regarding the ratings for WBUR? Very interesting. Very interesting...
I can't legally post any ratings numbers because they're copyrighted, but without getting more specific, I will say that in the 12+ Arbitron numbers WBUR is within the top five among all stations in the Boston market, and they did even better in the 25-54 demo.
racconradio said:
which one, WBUR? are they in the ratings (12 +)--I heard something about them always having high ratings but people never hear about it.
That's because non-commercial ratings are not published on sites like Radio And Records and other commercial ratings sites, but all subscribing non-commercial stations are Arbitron rated. Arbitron ratings for subscribing non-comm's can be viewed on the Radio Research Consortium site at [url]http://www.rrconline.org[/url].
racconradio said:
(And WBUR would be more of a public than college station, despite the BU connection...how many BU students are on there..?)
I wouldn't call WBUR a "college station". It's a University-based Public Radio station with a paid professional airstaff. There aren't any BU students on the air, but there are some students and grads behind the scenes doing newswriting, editing, production, studio engineering, and various other off-air work. That number has been increasing under the new management as well.BU students who want to do "college radio" are relegated to WTBU 89.3, a closed-circuit (and internet streaming) campus only station, though it can be heard on FM radios outside when near the BU buildings on Commonweath Ave.WUMB at U. Mass. Boston is the other University-based Public Radio station in the area with a paid professional airstaff. There is one UMB Class of '05 grad as an occasional co-host on their morning show, and there are some other students doing behind the scenes work. The GM is a UMB Class of '75 alum who has run the station since it's days as a closed-circuit campus only student station.
 
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