Do You Get Affiliates of the Same Network on Your Cable System?

[DToTheJ]

we get 2 cbs channels here both are 75 miles away

Where is "here"? And how do they factor into the NFL's "75-mile radius" blackout of your local NFL franchise?

 

[Joey1986]

My grandmother (R.I.P.), who lived either in or near (don't remember which) Fremont, CA, in the late 1990s (in the San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose DMA), lived in an apartment whose cable (don't remember the name of the provider) got channels from the Monterey-Salinas market to the south (NBC affiliate KSBW channel 8 is the only one I remember her getting from there) and the Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto market to the north (NBC affiliate KCRA channel 3, the only one I remember her getting from that market), in addition to the local affiliate (KRON channel 4 at the time). As I remember, nothing was Syndex'd out, so she got duplicate programming throughout the day. For example, one could switch back and forth for Jeopardy!, between local ABC O&O KGO channel 7 and Salinas' KSBW. I think that her cable may have also gotten KOVR channel 13 (CBS) from Sacramento and KION channel 46 (CBS) from Salinas, but I'm not 100% sure.

 

[BRNout]

Then the local NBC talked to the cable company and got the last out of market NBC pulled and replaced with shopping channel HSN.

Yeah, that seems to happen a lot and it is the cable company's answer to the concept of adding a nasty insult to injury! Bad enough that you lose an alternate network affiliate, but they replace it with a shopping channel! That has happened to us too and it sucks. At least I'd feel better about it if the alternate affiliate was replaced with something good. Rarely is that the case.

 

[charlestondxman]

Ken was talking about Myrtle Beach. That market has been a wacky one. Until 2008, three NBCs could be picked up in many places in the market, WCBD, WIS, and WECT. Then, WMBF signed on and replaced them. WCBD still airs in the southern part of the market, and WIS in Georgetown, but the others are gone in the rest of the area.

Also, any syndicated program that was aired on a Myrtle station was blacked out on WIS, with color bars and white text in all capital letters saying that the show couldn't be shown. Oprah and Inside Edition were shown on WBTW and WECT (since it was significantly-viewed), but blacked out on WIS.

 

[vchimpanzee]

I get two CBS affiliates. Last night that would have been a good thing had I taken advantage.

See "Why I missed 'Undercover Boss' on Halloween".

One county over, it's two Fox affiliates instead.

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

Re: WMBF/WIS/WECT - all three are owned by Raycom, so they probably want people in MB watching on their new station there.

WCBD is owned by Media General, a fact I determined within 5 seconds of seeing their Media General-standard graphics...

 

[radiolives]

Yep thats the Myrtle Beach Market.

I don't see WPDE or WBTW complaing about having ABC 4 or Live 5 News both from Charleston, SC still viewable on Time Warner cable. I know HTC Cable only carries Live 5 News in Myrtle Beach. Granted I only watch the locals only one out of market I really watch is WCSC Live 5 News.

Georgetown country goes with Charleston Market but also goes with Myrtle Beach Market. I know recently WBTW on Time Warner in Pawleys Island the line-up moved WBTW to channel 6 for some reason from channel 13. Never understood that but 13 I believe shows My Network Charleston.

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

The local affiliates don't care if the news from out of market shows up on cable.

They care if syndicated or network programs show up on these other stations.

 

[ShawnHill1]

...the cable system in Walworth, Wisconsin, had the affiliates from three different markets -- Milwaukee, Chicago and Rockford IL -- when I lived there in '98-'99. I assume they were all grandfathered in from the '70s or '80s. Curiously, while Rockford was clearly the closest market, Walworth County is officially part of the Milwaukee ADI, and the head-end of the system's signal was actually in McHenry County, Illinois, part of the Chicago ADI...

To piggyback on your comments, the Charter system serving Beloit and Janesville (Rock County, Wisconsin) have always carried the Madison (in-market) and Rockford (out-of-market, but geographically closer) network affiliates, and plus they used to offer Milwaukee's WVTV back when it was marketed as a "regional superstation".

2-WBUW (CW 57) Madison; 616 HD
3-WREX (NBC 13) Rockford
4-WTVO (ABC 17) Rockford
5-WMTV (NBC 15) Madison; 615 HD
6-WQRF (Fox 39) Rockford
7-WKOW (ABC 27) Madison; 607 HD
8-WMSN (Fox 47) Madison; 617 HD
9-WISC (CBS 3) Madison; 603 HD
10-WIFR (CBS 23) Rockford
14-WISC 3.2 (My) Madison
21 and 971-WHA (PBS 21) Madison; 600 HD
247-WMTV 15.2 (AccuWeather)
966-WKOW 27.3 (This TV)
967-WKOW 27.2 (RTV)
968-WMSN 47.2 (TheCoolTV)
972-WHA 21.2 (The Wisconsin Channel)
973-WHA 21.3 (Create/PBS Kids)

In Rockford, The CW and MyNetworkTV are offered on digital subs (WREX 13.2 and WTVO 17.2 respectively), as well as AccuWeather on WIFR 23.2. Other than that, all of the full-powered Madison and Rockford all are offered via cable in that area; TBN, who has over-the-air stations serving parts of the Madison market, is carried by the Charter system (along with three of its four subchannels) but from TBN's national feed.

 

[radiolives]

Oprah is on WCBD and WBTW, while WCBD was on cable channel 2 WBTW which is the local station never had WCBD blacked out at 4pm.

 

[RedWingCJS278]

Just a few miles north of Boston, we get New Hampshire Public Television in addition to the two Boston PBS stations. If memory serves, years ago we had Channel 9 from Manchester, NH, in addition to Boston's Channel 5, both ABC affiliates. At one time, it was possible to pick up 9 & 11 - as well as Ch. 10/NBC & Ch. 12/ABC (now CBS) from Providence - over-the-air, but those days are long gone. I don't recall the cable company ever offering the Providence stations, but I'm fairly certain about Ch. 9 Manchester. It's probably been about twenty years or so now.

 

[NHRadio]

I live in the Lakes Region of NH and DirecTV carries the PBS stations 2 (WGBH) and 44 (WGBX) in Boston and 11 (WENH) in NH, and both the NH (WMUR) and Boston (WCVB) ABC affiliates (which are commonly owned). Strangely, I get Boston's Ion TV WBPX on channel 68, but it's full power satellite on channel 21 in Concord NH WPXG is not carried. Even stranger, I get Ion's national feed too.

 

[MarcB]

COX Cable Meriden, CT which serves Meriden, Cheshire, and Southington carries WPIX/11 New York in addition to the local CW affiliate WCCT/20. Up until 05 they also carried WNBC/4. They dropped WNBC in favor of CTN - The Connecticut Goverment Network. CTN was on digital Channel 347, but some nut-job politician decided that CTN needs to be on basic cable so all subscribers could receive it so bye-bye went WNBC. Years and years ago they dropped WCBS and WNYW. (They never carried WABC). Other stations dropped too were WWOR/9 and WSBK/38. And this was the real WWOR that COX carried not that bs WOR EMI Service national feed. And WSBK was shown black-out free.

These days both Channel 2 and Channel 23 are vacant on COX Meriden so they could easily re-add WNBC if they wanted to. Channel 23 was WPIX and that moved to 22 when they moved CSPAN-2 to digital Channel 77. Channel 2 was the infomercial network known as COX Sports Telelvision. And that moved to digital 128. Channel 21 is going to waste to as its CSPAN and it's being duplicated on digital Channel 76.

Like other cable systems over the years COX moved several channels to digital only including: MTV2, CMT, Discovery Health, Turner Classic Movies, WSAH/43, 2 Leased Access Channels, and Speed Channel. That's in addition to the premium channels.

The analog lineup goes 3-22, 23 is vacant, 24-62, 63-69 are vacant and then 70 and 96. 71-78 along with 82 are digital channels.

Digital 71 - Leased Access (Jewelery TV formerly on Analog Channel 67)
Digital 72 - Leased Access (Infomercial Network TVSS formerly on Analog 96. Sometimes shows The TV Tent Sale from area Car Dealerships and other Businesses)
Digital 73 - Leased Access (Duplicate of WSAH/43 on Digital Channel 75)
Digital 74 - Leased Access (Infomercials/Coin Vault Network/Liquidation Channel)
Digital 75 - WSAH/43 Bridgeport, CT (Infomercials. Formerly on Analog 8 )
Digital 76 CSPAN (Duplicate of Analog 21)
Digital 77 CSPAN2 (Formerly on Analog 22)
Digital 78 CSPAN3
Digital 82 WGN America

 

[nomadcowatbk]

Mediacom in Columbia MO had KETC (PBS) KSDK (NBC) from St Louis in SD only until the original analog TV shutoff date (Feb 2009). Most of the syndicated and NBC shows on KSDK were blacked out and replaced with an all infomercial channel