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Do you think a new format needed in the burgh?

R

RadioFan730

I say yes maybe a jackfm. And maybe a chr-pop like the one in philly q102 if pittsburgh get a station like that i would listen. I did at one time liked 961kiss but not anymore.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
NO!

WE HAVE 94,000 JACK FMS ALREADY!!!!!!!

There is one in Wheeling!

There is one in Greensburg!

There is one in Pittsburgh!

I'm sure there is one in every other town down any highway you choose!

All the format is is a way to get rid of the DJs and take away responsibility in programming!

Cut costs and lower quality! THAT'S IT!

Maybe it is a good way for someone young like you to get familiar with all types of music. Maybe it is a nice way for us to break down the walls of our musical- and cultural tastes- so we can be more open minded in our lifestyles.

But that's if anyone is listening! And I don't know- I don't really want to have to listen through 40,000 Mariah Carey type-songs to get to my beloved AC/DC!!!!!
 
Re: NO!

> WE HAVE 94,000 JACK FMS ALREADY!!!!!!!
>
> There is one in Wheeling!
I know can't get it here.
>
> There is one in Greensburg!
Correction it's Samfm
>
> There is one in Pittsburgh!
Bobfm only plays mainly the older stuff.
>
> I'm sure there is one in every other town down any highway
> you choose!
Theres butler but i don't like it to much.
>
> All the format is is a way to get rid of the DJs and take
> away responsibility in programming!
Yea....so what if they don't have djs or they are computerize who really cares do u get to here djs on a cd?
>
> Cut costs and lower quality! THAT'S IT!
Yea..If thats what it take yes.
>
> Maybe it is a good way for someone young like you to get
> familiar with all types of music. Maybe it is a nice way for
> us to break down the walls of our musical- and cultural
> tastes- so we can be more open minded in our lifestyles.
Yep true
>
> But that's if anyone is listening! And I don't know- I don't
> really want to have to listen through 40,000 Mariah Carey
> type-songs to get to my beloved AC/DC!!!!!
>
So true. well i understand i think. And oh by the way i am in my 20's
<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: Yes

> A new format is needed.
>
Then what type of format would u think would work.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
BOB? JACK? IT'S ALL THE SAME!!!

Sheesh!

And as you said- we have now FOUR stations in the market with the format- which seems to have "FAD" written all over it and if it ISN'T a fad is a horrifying trend for the industry because it will literally kill so many DJ jobs and take away responsibility in programming.

I can't IMAGINE wanting to advertise on that station. I'm flipping my dial and I hear a song I like. I stay.

The very next song comes on- I don't like it- I push the button.

If I am listening to a rock station I know that even if a song I don't particularly care for is on I can tough it out and get to the next one.

If I listen to AC/DC, then I hear Mariah Carey, I'm not waiting around to hear Billy Joel and the ad.
 
STUPID QUESTION RADIO?

Where a 20 something man asks "Do we need more JACK stations" until ALL of the stations go to that format.

Muslim extremists get the bomb and start hitting South Park? Does not matter. We are all on automation playing The Knack after Snoop Dogg. Only those watching PCNC will survive.

In this rubbled, devestated earth, with only a handful of survivors, we are left with one radio station- KDKA.

Which will play country after polkas with its one DJ- offering no guidence on how to combat our nuclear contamination, but instead taking to the air to ocassionally ask-

"Do we need another radio station to play JACK?"
 
Re: STUPID QUESTION RADIO?

> Where a 20 something man asks "Do we need more JACK
> stations" until ALL of the stations go to that format.
>
> Muslim extremists get the bomb and start hitting South Park?
> Does not matter. We are all on automation playing The Knack
> after Snoop Dogg. Only those watching PCNC will survive.
>
> In this rubbled, devestated earth, with only a handful of
> survivors, we are left with one radio station- KDKA.
>
> Which will play country after polkas with its one DJ-
> offering no guidence on how to combat our nuclear
> contamination, but instead taking to the air to ocassionally
> ask-
>
> "Do we need another radio station to play JACK?"
>


Good points.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: BOB? JACK? IT'S ALL THE SAME!!!

> Sheesh!
>
> And as you said- we have now FOUR stations in the market
> with the format- which seems to have "FAD" written all over
> it and if it ISN'T a fad is a horrifying trend for the
> industry because it will literally kill so many DJ jobs and
> take away responsibility in programming.
>
> I can't IMAGINE wanting to advertise on that station. I'm
> flipping my dial and I hear a song I like. I stay.
>
> The very next song comes on- I don't like it- I push the
> button.
>
> If I am listening to a rock station I know that even if a
> song I don't particularly care for is on I can tough it out
> and get to the next one.
>
> If I listen to AC/DC, then I hear Mariah Carey, I'm not
> waiting around to hear Billy Joel and the ad.
>


What pittsburgh does not have 4 adult hits radio stations WLTJ and WSHH is soft rock but wltj has added music so i say in between hot ac and ac. But anyway star1007 is the only vareity station that plays mainly 80s through today and i here they are adding 70s music too.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
BOB? JACK?

I don't disagree that if you have a Jack and a Bob, that's plenty of Variety- type formats. No market can really have 4 or 5 of them, you are right about that (for most, one will do).

I do not believe the format is a "fad", however. It's working in most markets where it's on. And, the "it'll kill the industry 'cuz it's killing DJ jobs" is a bit of an over-reaction. Most V.H. stations haven't put jocks on because the listeners have not really cried out for personalities. Some do, however, and seem to be doing well (Phoenix, St. Louis, Louisville and a few others). I'm on record as saying eventually most of these stations will and should work in some sort of personality component but the tough pill to swallow is that if listeners are saying, "hey, I kind of like this music mix and I like it without the typical DJ blabbing", then we should fulfill their demands and expectations.

The only jocks who should fear any "jockless" format should be those who are marginal in talent and attitude. Jerry Butler's "only the strong survive" sentiment was true and holds true with radio formats as well as personalities.

>
> And as you said- we have now FOUR stations in the market
> with the format- which seems to have "FAD" written all over
> it and if it ISN'T a fad is a horrifying trend for the
> industry because it will literally kill so many DJ jobs and
> take away responsibility in programming.
>
> I can't IMAGINE wanting to advertise on that station. I'm
> flipping my dial and I hear a song I like. I stay.
>
> The very next song comes on- I don't like it- I push the
> button.
>
> If I am listening to a rock station I know that even if a
> song I don't particularly care for is on I can tough it out
> and get to the next one.
>
> If I listen to AC/DC, then I hear Mariah Carey, I'm not
> waiting around to hear Billy Joel and the ad.
>
 
maybe, maybe not

Perhaps the more constructive question would be: "what format is not on the air in Pittsburgh that there's likely a demand for"?

Just putting a "new format" on for the sake of doing so would probably result in disaster. Just thinking up some new format that may not be in demand or wouldn't be competitive would be a waste of time and money.

What's missing on your radio dial? Or, what format is being done so badly that it could be challenged?


> >
> Then what type of format would u think would work.
>
 
90's and now

A 90's and now station would be clutch...just like Q104 in Cleveland or WKDD in Akron
 
Re: 90's and now

> A 90's and now station would be clutch...just like Q104 in
> Cleveland or WKDD in Akron
>
It might work. But i think 1059thex already has that covered somewhat?

But i like your idea. Would it have rap music,Rock,Hardrock on it then i'm there for a 90s and now.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: 90's and now

> > A 90's and now station would be clutch...just like Q104 in
>
> > Cleveland or WKDD in Akron
> >
> It might work. But i think 1059thex already has that covered
> somewhat?
>
> But i like your idea. Would it have rap music,Rock,Hardrock
> on it then i'm there for a 90s and now.

Here's the thing--a 90s and now station (like Q104 and WKDD) is essentially the pop hits station. Hardly any hip-hop, or alternative (you're lucky if it gets past Oasis and some Red Hot Chili Peppers).

There's no way a 90s rap, rock, pop station is going to fare well. They are diverse formats that never shared an audience in the 90s. Alternative then was alternative for a reason. Originally, it was alternative to hair abnds; then it was alternative to the pop crap put out then (Proclaimers, Hootie, Sophie B. Hawkins, Madonna). And rap was never on the pop stations in the 90s--it was on rap stations, and the wall between those audiences was vast, wide, and high.

Variety is nice, but we can't fool ourselves into thinking this is the 60s and 70s where top 40 radio was a bit of everything. The 90s had multitudinous radio formats and commercial music product was tailored to those formats.

Snoop to Oasis to AC/DC to Proclaimers to Mariah Carey to Dr. Dre is all a dream world fantasy, or an iPod playlist, or a college station. But it is not the real world of commercial radio.
 
Re: 90's and now

> > > A 90's and now station would be clutch...just like Q104
> in
> >
> > > Cleveland or WKDD in Akron
> > >
> > It might work. But i think 1059thex already has that
> covered
> > somewhat?
> >
> > But i like your idea. Would it have rap
> music,Rock,Hardrock
> > on it then i'm there for a 90s and now.
>
> Here's the thing--a 90s and now station (like Q104 and WKDD)
> is essentially the pop hits station. Hardly any hip-hop, or
> alternative (you're lucky if it gets past Oasis and some Red
> Hot Chili Peppers).
>
> There's no way a 90s rap, rock, pop station is going to fare
> well. They are diverse formats that never shared an
> audience in the 90s. Alternative then was alternative for a
> reason. Originally, it was alternative to hair abnds; then
> it was alternative to the pop crap put out then
> (Proclaimers, Hootie, Sophie B. Hawkins, Madonna). And rap
> was never on the pop stations in the 90s--it was on rap
> stations, and the wall between those audiences was vast,
> wide, and high.
>
> Variety is nice, but we can't fool ourselves into thinking
> this is the 60s and 70s where top 40 radio was a bit of
> everything. The 90s had multitudinous radio formats and
> commercial music product was tailored to those formats.
>
> Snoop to Oasis to AC/DC to Proclaimers to Mariah Carey to
> Dr. Dre is all a dream world fantasy, or an iPod playlist,
> or a college station. But it is not the real world of
> commercial radio.
>
Great read i agree with everything u said.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: BOB? JACK? IT'S ALL THE SAME!!!

> > Sheesh!
> >
> > And as you said- we have now FOUR stations in the market
> > with the format- which seems to have "FAD" written all
> over
> > it and if it ISN'T a fad is a horrifying trend for the
> > industry because it will literally kill so many DJ jobs
> and
> > take away responsibility in programming.
> >
> > I can't IMAGINE wanting to advertise on that station. I'm
> > flipping my dial and I hear a song I like. I stay.
> >
> > The very next song comes on- I don't like it- I push the
> > button.
> >
> > If I am listening to a rock station I know that even if a
> > song I don't particularly care for is on I can tough it
> out
> > and get to the next one.
> >
> > If I listen to AC/DC, then I hear Mariah Carey, I'm not
> > waiting around to hear Billy Joel and the ad.
> >
>
>
> What pittsburgh does not have 4 adult hits radio stations
> WLTJ and WSHH is soft rock but wltj has added music so i say
> in between hot ac and ac. But anyway star1007 is the only
> vareity station that plays mainly 80s through today and i
> here they are adding 70s music too.
>
You are right about star adding 70's music. Just heard two 70's songs back to back. Paul Mccartney and Wings-Maybe Im Amazed and The Cars-My Best Friends Girl.
 
Re: 90's and now

> > > A 90's and now station would be clutch...just like Q104
> in
> >
> > > Cleveland or WKDD in Akron
> > >
> > It might work. But i think 1059thex already has that
> covered
> > somewhat?
> >
> > But i like your idea. Would it have rap
> music,Rock,Hardrock
> > on it then i'm there for a 90s and now.
>
> Here's the thing--a 90s and now station (like Q104 and WKDD)
> is essentially the pop hits station. Hardly any hip-hop, or
> alternative (you're lucky if it gets past Oasis and some Red
> Hot Chili Peppers).
>
> There's no way a 90s rap, rock, pop station is going to fare
> well. They are diverse formats that never shared an
> audience in the 90s. Alternative then was alternative for a
> reason. Originally, it was alternative to hair abnds; then
> it was alternative to the pop crap put out then
> (Proclaimers, Hootie, Sophie B. Hawkins, Madonna). And rap
> was never on the pop stations in the 90s--it was on rap
> stations, and the wall between those audiences was vast,
> wide, and high.
>
> Variety is nice, but we can't fool ourselves into thinking
> this is the 60s and 70s where top 40 radio was a bit of
> everything. The 90s had multitudinous radio formats and
> commercial music product was tailored to those formats.
>
> Snoop to Oasis to AC/DC to Proclaimers to Mariah Carey to
> Dr. Dre is all a dream world fantasy, or an iPod playlist,
> or a college station. But it is not the real world of
> commercial radio.
>
Good Post Johnny. I like how you put that in perspective:) I think Star would do well with the 90's and now format since we now have so many other Pittsburgh radio stations that plays 80's music.
 
Re: BOB? JACK? IT'S ALL THE SAME!!!

> > > Sheesh!
> > >
> > > And as you said- we have now FOUR stations in the market
>
> > > with the format- which seems to have "FAD" written all
> > over
> > > it and if it ISN'T a fad is a horrifying trend for the
> > > industry because it will literally kill so many DJ jobs
> > and
> > > take away responsibility in programming.
> > >
> > > I can't IMAGINE wanting to advertise on that station.
> I'm
> > > flipping my dial and I hear a song I like. I stay.
> > >
> > > The very next song comes on- I don't like it- I push the
>
> > > button.
> > >
> > > If I am listening to a rock station I know that even if
> a
> > > song I don't particularly care for is on I can tough it
> > out
> > > and get to the next one.
> > >
> > > If I listen to AC/DC, then I hear Mariah Carey, I'm not
> > > waiting around to hear Billy Joel and the ad.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What pittsburgh does not have 4 adult hits radio stations
> > WLTJ and WSHH is soft rock but wltj has added music so i
> say
> > in between hot ac and ac. But anyway star1007 is the only
> > vareity station that plays mainly 80s through today and i
> > here they are adding 70s music too.
> >
> You are right about star adding 70's music. Just heard two
> 70's songs back to back. Paul Mccartney and Wings-Maybe Im
> Amazed and The Cars-My Best Friends Girl.
>

See i knew i was right. They play AC/DC too i've heard it. Is there something wrong with yes.com?
<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: 90's and now

> > > > A 90's and now station would be clutch...just like
> Q104
> > in
> > >
> > > > Cleveland or WKDD in Akron
> > > >
> > > It might work. But i think 1059thex already has that
> > covered
> > > somewhat?
> > >
> > > But i like your idea. Would it have rap
> > music,Rock,Hardrock
> > > on it then i'm there for a 90s and now.
> >
> > Here's the thing--a 90s and now station (like Q104 and
> WKDD)
> > is essentially the pop hits station. Hardly any hip-hop,
> or
> > alternative (you're lucky if it gets past Oasis and some
> Red
> > Hot Chili Peppers).
> >
> > There's no way a 90s rap, rock, pop station is going to
> fare
> > well. They are diverse formats that never shared an
> > audience in the 90s. Alternative then was alternative for
> a
> > reason. Originally, it was alternative to hair abnds;
> then
> > it was alternative to the pop crap put out then
> > (Proclaimers, Hootie, Sophie B. Hawkins, Madonna). And
> rap
> > was never on the pop stations in the 90s--it was on rap
> > stations, and the wall between those audiences was vast,
> > wide, and high.
> >
> > Variety is nice, but we can't fool ourselves into thinking
>
> > this is the 60s and 70s where top 40 radio was a bit of
> > everything. The 90s had multitudinous radio formats and
> > commercial music product was tailored to those formats.
> >
> > Snoop to Oasis to AC/DC to Proclaimers to Mariah Carey to
> > Dr. Dre is all a dream world fantasy, or an iPod playlist,
>
> > or a college station. But it is not the real world of
> > commercial radio.
> >
> Good Post Johnny. I like how you put that in perspective:)
> I think Star would do well with the 90's and now format
> since we now have so many other Pittsburgh radio stations
> that plays 80's music.
>

I agree with you todd. And those stations already play 80s bobfm,Wish997 and wltj at 929.
<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: 90's and now

Todd, thanks for the kind words, and I apologize for not answering your most recent email. I just got it, for some odd reason, days later. Will answer soon, I promise!

JM
 
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