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Does Any Cable System Carry Both LA and San Diego Stations?

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Gregg

I have a cousin that lives in Fallbrook, at the northern end of San Diego County. I believe they only get San Diego stations on their cable system, although not Channel 12 XEWT Tijuana. Fallbrook is only a few miles from San Clemente, where I assume they only get LA stations. Does any cable system carry both LA and San Diego stations? Or is the county border between Orange and San Diego the dividing line?

How about communities in the very southern part of Riverside County such as Temecula? I wonder if they get San Diego as well as LA stations? I'd imagine folks in Oceanside, San Clemente and San Juan Capistrano get over-the-air signals from both markets. I know in Central New Jersey, and along the Jersey Shore, many communities get both NYC and Philadelphia channels on their cable systems.

I suppose that because XEWT 12 Tijuana carries some current American TV shows dubbed in Spanish for a Mexican audience, they don't get carried on cable systems more than 30 miles or so from the Mexican border.

Gregg
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Time Warner in Temecula carries KUSI, but the rest of the lineup is all LA.

Keep in mind that there's a very big buffer between the SD and LA markets, in the form of Camp Pendleton. Fallbrook and San Clemente don't have much to do with each other as a result, no matter how close they may appear on the map.

OTA TV from San Diego tends to be very terrain-challenged in SD North County, and depending on where you're located, it's not unusual to get better reception of stations from Mount Wilson 100 miles to the north than from Mother Miguel 30 miles to the south - but cable penetration is so high that the question is largely academic.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Time Warner in Temecula carries KUSI, but the rest of the lineup is all LA.

Keep in mind that there's a very big buffer between the SD and LA markets, in the form of Camp Pendleton. Fallbrook and San Clemente don't have much to do with each other as a result, no matter how close they may appear on the map.

OTA TV from San Diego tends to be very terrain-challenged in SD North County, and depending on where you're located, it's not unusual to get better reception of stations from Mount Wilson 100 miles to the north than from Mother Miguel 30 miles to the south - but cable penetration is so high that the question is largely academic.
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Look at Solano County in Northern California Vallejo gets all the San Francisco Stations while Fairfield would get Sacramento and San Francisco TV Stations. For Some time in the 1990's when Xfinity was called Donrey Cable in Vallejo Vallejo had Sacramento and San Francisco TV Stations.
 
I remember seeing in the late 80s and early 90s in the newspaper listings that cable companies in Temecula/Murrieta as well as in Southern Orange County carred some San Diego stations as part of their line up. I think KFMB and KGTV was carried in the Murietta area. Most cable systems dropped this after they became more strcit about market competition rules and also when they started needing more bandwith freed.
 
Thanks Neel.

We've discussed these rules before, regarding carrying out-of-market network stations on local cable systems. Sometimes the network stations put a lot of pressure on cable systems to drop out-of-market network stations, although grandfather rules can win.

As you said, it may have been the cable system that wanted to drop KFMB and KGTV San Diego to free up space for a couple of cable networks to run in their place.

Never the less, in some places, such as the Jersey Shore or the Princeton NJ area, viewers are so used to having both NYC and Philadelphia channels that I doubt cable systems could drop duplicated ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox channels. And grandfather rules no doubt stop network stations from making an issue of it.


Gregg
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maybe off topic but recently stayed in a hotel whose cable carried NYC-Philly and I think several Scranton stations. Nice.
 
I wonder if any of those "border" areas such as Fallbrook or San Clemente can recieve both markets over the air? With digital, I would think it is nearly impossible now....but at least in the analog days I could pick up SD channels in various parts of So Cal.
 
Oh...I heard of one person of how they get both....not perfectly legit but his sister lives in San Diego and he lives in the LA area but the direct tv account is registered to his sister in SD. But he uses the receiver at his house in LA so it gets San Diego channels as the locals. I guess he can use an off air antenna to get LA, so there...you have both...
 
Gregg said:
Never the less, in some places, such as the Jersey Shore or the Princeton NJ area, viewers are so used to having both NYC and Philadelphia channels that I doubt cable systems could drop duplicated ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox channels. And grandfather rules no doubt stop network stations from making an issue of it.
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I think Verizon FiOS in Dover Delaware has that beat. By network:
ABC 2-Baltimore, 6-Philadelphia, 47-Salisbury MD
NBC 10-Philadelphia, 11-Baltimore
CBS 3-Philadelphia, 16-Salisbury MD
FOX 29-Philadelphia, 21(the RF of the digital only affiliate) Salisbury MD

My favorite part was clicking from WPVI to WMAR during Jeopardy to get to the final answer a minute sooner. :D

However, Being back in SoCal makes throwing that all away well worth it. ;)
 
Scott Fybush said:
Time Warner in Temecula carries KUSI, but the rest of the lineup is all LA.

Keep in mind that there's a very big buffer between the SD and LA markets, in the form of Camp Pendleton. Fallbrook and San Clemente don't have much to do with each other as a result, no matter how close they may appear on the map.

OTA TV from San Diego tends to be very terrain-challenged in SD North County, and depending on where you're located, it's not unusual to get better reception of stations from Mount Wilson 100 miles to the north than from Mother Miguel 30 miles to the south - but cable penetration is so high that the question is largely academic.
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Yep! For example, University City, where we lived in eye shot of Soledad, and yet could get KABC and KCBS pretty good!
 
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