> Correct me if I'm in error, but the "black & White" overnite
> shows on Game Show Network(I refuse to call it GSN...)
> were/are kinnies.
...depends on the show. "Password" and a few of the "To Tell The Truth" productions are on videotape, but everything else, including most of the "To Tell The Truth" eps, are kinnies...
> The bulk of timely shows on AFRTS in the mid 70's were
> really economy kinnies: game shows, ball games, one-time
> only special events, and programs like "Meet The Press".
> Multiple copies would be made to send out to many stations
> to air as soon as possible after the original air date,
> rather than circut the film thru a dozen or so stations.
...it's also worth noting that the famous "Tonight Show" of 6 March 1969, the one on which George Gobel appears spectacularly after Bob Hope and Dean Martin drop by without Johnny Carson knowing, survives as an AFRTS kinnie. I have the DVD that johnnycarson.com markets of it, and it is only 35 minutes long (out of an originally 70-minute-long production, which commercial breaks expanded out to 90 minutes upon broadcast). Contained are the monologue, a drum duet with Louis Bellson (te regular drummer used on Carson's Burbank visits at the time) and Buddy Rich, the first part of the appearance by Judy Carne, the second part of Bob Hope's walk-on, all of Dean Martin and George Gobel, and Robert Wagner (who was bumped by Hope and Martin) and Carol Wayne walking on during the tag. That Wayne appears and Rich comments from the couch during Carne's chat suggests to me that missing from the DVD is a Rich chat and a "Tea Time Movie" sketch as well as the remainder of the Carne and Hope spots. My initial suspicion was that those sections of the kine were either lost or damaged/decayed beyond repair. (Was it on a nitrate or safety film stock by then?) But was it also possible that AFRTS only showed 35 minutes of each Carson program to fit in a subsequent Joey Bishop or, later, Merv Griffin and/or Dick Cavett kinnie? I've noticed the earliest surviving clips of the CBS Griffin show are also on kinnies rather than videotape, and possibly from the same source, the AFRTS vaults...
> Newsfilm used on AFN-TV newscasts from the states was
> kinnied also, usually from ABC News. We'd have to mask out
> the few frames before the story/piece, as it was a direct
> cut from Peter Jennings doing the anchoring.
...would this have been material from "AM America"? That would have been the only anchoring Jennings did in the mid-70s that I know of; he didn't return to ABC's evening newscast until 1978...<P ID="signature">______________
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