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Does anyone besides me think AC today is a joke?

I did say that mall's music wasn't AC, though "Breakaway" by Kelly Clarkson keeps it from being entirely "classic hits". I'm not sure what their approach is, but it sure seemed like AC to me.

But as I mentioned, there were some redeeming qualities since they did play the Jackson Five, America, and on an earlier visit, "New Kid in Town" by The Eagles. Such songs would sound like a joke on these Katy Perry/Lady Gaga/Bruno Mars type stations, but someone has figured out in this case there needs to be a balance.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I was hoping for more commentary on Movin 94.5 that I could add but the actual thread on that subject doesn't have anything.
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Maybe it would have had a better discussion if you had been posting there (I presume we are talking about the station in Myrtle Beach, SC) instead of rambling all over the place in this thread, in a forum which is supposed to be about formats nationwide.

And when you start talking about background music in malls, I call "waaaaaaaaay off-topic" foul.
 
vchimpanzee said:
Yeah, well, if the volume is too loud the people in charge are going to hear about it. At my grocery store the music volume is at a respectable level. The last time it wasn't, the corporate headquarters was hearing from me. I couldn't care less about what those 18-44 females want.
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I'm sure that the owners of those huge grocery chains care more about pleasing the 18-44 product decision makers than they do about you or any men for that matter!
 
vchimpanzee said:
Yeah, well, if the volume is too loud the people in charge are going to hear about it. At my grocery store the music volume is at a respectable level. The last time it wasn't, the corporate headquarters was hearing from me. I couldn't care less about what those 18-44 females want.
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The primary concern for management at Walmart, Belk, Food Lion, etc. is sales, not whatever music is being piped out over the sound system.

Besides, most customers ignore the music anyway.
 
Han Solo said:
The primary concern for management at Walmart, Belk, Food Lion, etc. is sales, not whatever music is being piped out over the sound system.

Besides, most customers ignore the music anyway.
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Exactly! Rarely, if ever have I walked into a place and the music is blaring so loud that I'd walk out, except maybe A&F, which attracts a certain age group to begin with. Music in a store, is just that, background music, just to add ambience. Very few customers pay attention to what's actually playing in a store (whether it's a radio station or muzak), they are there to shop. Vchimpanzee notices, because his interest in music is far above average than what the everyday shopper will tolerate.
 
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Exactly! Rarely, if ever have I walked into a place and the music is blaring so loud that I'd walk out. Music in a store, is just that, background music, just to add ambience. Very few customers pay attention to what's actually playing in a store (whether it's a radio station or muzak), they are there to shop. Vchimpanzee only notices, because his interest in music is far above average than what the everyday shopper will tolerate.
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I can't explain why to anyone's satisfaction, but the problem is that I can't simply ignore the music like you say everyone does. It bothers me, and I won't back down on that (I don't have a choice in this; if I have the capacity to be annoyed, maybe, but once I reach my limit, then I have the right to object, and I come here to rant later, whether it does any good or not). The only solution to this is for the people in charge to keep the background music exactly that--in the background where it won't bother me. And make the music soft if possible. After all, you say the others will ignore it (not saying they should, just saying if they're ignoring it then why make it annoying). It's not so much my interest in any of it as my desire for quiet. I was having a bad day when I was in that mall, and they weren't helping.

Now I'm sorry if this makes some of you mad, but I'm just stating a fact.
 
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K.M. Richards said:
Maybe it would have had a better discussion if you had been posting there (I presume we are talking about the station in Myrtle Beach, SC) instead of rambling all over the place in this thread, in a forum which is supposed to be about formats nationwide.

And when you start talking about background music in malls, I call "waaaaaaaaay off-topic" foul.
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How this got started was that I thought we had something interesting to talk about here for a change. This looked like an example of the AC station of just a few years ago, in contrast to the new type of AC people are complaining about (though people here have concluded it wasn't, and yes, you're right, we should have taken that to the other thread, but then what would we talk about here?). As for the mall, I was commenting that they seemed to be taking a similar approach to the station, but there really aren't new songs at that mall.

I'm not sure where the topic should go, but there could be a topic about background music.
 
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And sort of getting back on topic here, at a grocery store I go to less often than my usual one, the music is exactly the style this topic is about, but because the volume is respectable, it doesn't bother me any more than the traditional style of AC.

My usual grocery is worse, but the volume level is even lower. So it is possible in some situations for me not to be bothered.
 
Han Solo said:
Besides, most customers ignore the music anyway.
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Music Lover's hubby here. I second that. When my wife and I go out shopping, we're there to shop and pay no attention to the music. Same with eating at a restaurant. We're too busy eating to notice what's playing.
 
I wish people would understand that this is a problem for me. If I didn't notice what's playing, I wouldn't have anything to complain about. I mean here. I'm sure I'd find something.
 
Complaining about it here won't make any difference. Contact the various stations or supermarket managers with your concerns. A supermarket and radio are researched quite differently.
 
It's generally true that complaining about it won't make a difference. But more broadly, it isn't their obligation to cater to your tastes or desires. No business can be all things to all people, and at some point and in some way, each of us winds up on the proverbial short end of the stick.
 
I don't see how a song like "Relax" can be a part of this format, and yet I heard it last night. I was sampling everything.

It's not just how it sounds, but there was controversy over the lyrics.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I don't see how a song like "Relax" can be a part of this format, and yet I heard it last night. I was sampling everything.

It's not just how it sounds, but there was controversy over the lyrics.
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It's just a quirky, feel-good piece of '80s nostalgia now. Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop" would have no problem fitting into a format like this if it had been a bigger hit, which it wasn't largely because of its subject matter.
 
CTListener said:
It's just a quirky, feel-good piece of '80s nostalgia now. Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop" would have no problem fitting into a format like this if it had been a bigger hit, which it wasn't largely because of its subject matter.
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"She Bop" is a lot softer.

Something like "Relax" really fits only Hot AC.
 
If the target audience (and that's the key) accepts it as part of the AC format on a given station in a given market, then it is. Maybe it wouldn't have when the song was released, but we don't live in that world now. AC, Hot AC--not so much of a distinction anymore. You might say it's a case of blurred lines.
 
CTListener said:
It's just a quirky, feel-good piece of '80s nostalgia now. Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop" would have no problem fitting into a format like this if it had been a bigger hit, which it wasn't largely because of its subject matter.
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"She Bop" peaked at #3. That's as big as "California Girls" or any number of other classics!
 
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