Does anyone listen to any of these stations wasting their time with AM HD? The HD noise coming off 1210 is actually louder then their main frequency audio. Has anyone tried listening to HD at night on any of the out of town signals? Does it even work? I had played around with an AM HD radio to try to get it to work on one signal from a station 8 miles away and even after tieing a 100 foot longwire antenna on the set, the best it would do is sit there and switch between the HD and analog signals. Someone sure sold the FCC a bill of goods on a system that generates noise and creates interference that really isn't needed.
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Does Anyone Listen To AM HD?
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imhomerjay
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A better question is does anyone listen to AM?
I'm 15 miles from PHT's tower as the crow flies and I have too much interference in my audio nerve center to pull in 1210's AM HD signal reliably - even with C. Crane's active dual coil antenna (KYW is somewhat better, but still not a full time lock). I was doing okay until about a year and a half ago when I must have introduced a piece of equipment that added enough nearfield interference to the HD radio to break the deal on the AM side (possibly one of the four web radios).
Since then, I rely on the FM HD repeaters. It's a shame, too, because PHT's AM stereo HD signal sounded better than the FM HD repeater. C'est la interference..... AM's a technological relic that's just about out of time in the GHz world.
Unless I'm stuck in the car and I want to hear a talk show that's not carried on satellite radio, or check out WDAS(AM) now that WHAT is gone, I don't listen to band-limited AM anymore when a superior-sounding webstream is readily available.
Maybe after the current attempt at in-band digital broadcasting on AM is shelved, digital processing in newer radios will be enough to buy the bigger analog AMs a decade or two. That's if anyone outside of us Sangean/Sony/Tecsun devotees has a decent portable AM radio that can be moved away from the interference. Then, between the cell phone, the pacemaker, the embedded memory enhancing chip with GPS and radio controlled artificial joints I'll no doubt need, it'll be unavoidable interference all over again!
Since then, I rely on the FM HD repeaters. It's a shame, too, because PHT's AM stereo HD signal sounded better than the FM HD repeater. C'est la interference..... AM's a technological relic that's just about out of time in the GHz world.
Unless I'm stuck in the car and I want to hear a talk show that's not carried on satellite radio, or check out WDAS(AM) now that WHAT is gone, I don't listen to band-limited AM anymore when a superior-sounding webstream is readily available.
Maybe after the current attempt at in-band digital broadcasting on AM is shelved, digital processing in newer radios will be enough to buy the bigger analog AMs a decade or two. That's if anyone outside of us Sangean/Sony/Tecsun devotees has a decent portable AM radio that can be moved away from the interference. Then, between the cell phone, the pacemaker, the embedded memory enhancing chip with GPS and radio controlled artificial joints I'll no doubt need, it'll be unavoidable interference all over again!
Yes, I love HD radio. I get Phillies 24/7. Now get 1480 WDAS-AM on 106.1 HD2. WWFM HD2 Great jazz from Trenton. This New Years Eve we got the sound track to the midnight fireworks on the Delaware from KYW 1060 AM on WIP-FM HD2, that match the fireworks. Yea some of HD stations are a waste, like WXTU country HD2 and WBEN-FM HD2 is classical. The WMGK has great album rock on it's HD2. WRTI flips Jazz and Classical at night. Even WBCB-AM sounds better in the summertime with the Phillies. I am using a recondition Sony RMT-CS10A radio.
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jhguthlac
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I have never even considered buying an HD radio. However, I understand they will be standard equipment in cars starting this year.
I think the thrust of Dave's initial post was: "is anybody listening to HD on AM?" (As opposed to, is anyone listening to AM stations repeated on FM HD subs??)**
He's right. So is Ms. Musichead. The system simply doesn't work in many if not most typical environments. It generates far more interference than benefit, and is actually harming the AM band, not helping it.
** The answers, consecutively: Practically none. And: very few.
He's right. So is Ms. Musichead. The system simply doesn't work in many if not most typical environments. It generates far more interference than benefit, and is actually harming the AM band, not helping it.
** The answers, consecutively: Practically none. And: very few.
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imhomerjay
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I use them and then listen to music on my 8 track.
KYW is the only AM-HD that stays locked in while driving from Gilbertsville across Montg Co, except in KYW's null in Horsham and points north, where I switch to 94.1 HD2 which lags 40 seconds behind the AM. WIP-AM HD can be heard intermittently as far as Berks Co but has dropouts even within 10 miles of their xmtr. WWDB dropped HD months ago but used to completely wipe out WCBS and generated hash 30kHz out under WEEU. WOR's HD can be heard in open areas in Mont Co during the day. WBZ's HD locks in for several minutes on many nights. Most of my HD listening is to AM simulcasts on FM HD- KYW, WPHT and WDAS-AM. For AM simulcasts on FM HD with the same or better coverage, I wouldn't miss the AM HD.
I tested WIP, KYW and WPHT on my HD radio. The HD sound is ok....not as good as analog FM. Actually FM HD might not even sound as good as analog FM to me. It is in stereo, but it obviously lacks power. Reception in the area I was driving through, NE Phila, Cheltenham to Olney was not the greatest going in and out (switching from HD to analog) often. I typically have perfect reception on the CBS FM HD stations, with no dropouts. It seems to me that the AM HD stations are broadcast at minimal power. I did detect stereo. More power may cure the problem, but most people get HD versions of KYW and WPHT from FM.
Problems with digital sound: unnatural hollow sound (listen to satellite stations). Not as bad on FM HD stations. FM HD sounds better than all but a couple satellite stations. But I understand that HD sound can be improved. If I owned a station, I would make sure it sounds its best, both on air and streaming...then I'd advertise it.
Problems with digital sound: unnatural hollow sound (listen to satellite stations). Not as bad on FM HD stations. FM HD sounds better than all but a couple satellite stations. But I understand that HD sound can be improved. If I owned a station, I would make sure it sounds its best, both on air and streaming...then I'd advertise it.
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