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Does anyone really know what time it is ...?

With apologies to Chicago, I'm referring to a radio station that never gives time checks, WPGB-104.7.

Yes, "FM News Talk 104.7" does tell you "the Pirates are on the radio tonight (this afternoon) so Savage (Rush) can be heard live on wpgb.com" and does plug the time the Pirates (Penguins) are coming on WPGB (WXDX) but one never hears a time check, be it during a local traffic/weather segment or even those Cleveland-based newscasts.

If the station really gives you "the information you need" why would it not include time checks, which even could be voice-tracked? Even WAVL-910 has a program in its automation that gives a time check and weather report between ABC newscasts and syndicated talk shows it runs.

Am I nuts?
 
And if somehow something misfires and the time check is wrong? Why chance it? People do not turn on the radio to find out what time it is. That's just a convenience from a bygone era when, for instance, cars didn't have digital clocks.
 
A few days ago I heard them say that "the Pirates are on the air tonight at 12:35".
Either Midnight Baseball is about to become popular someplace other than Fairbanks,
Alaska or they don't know how to do a promo for a day game.
 
Raymond said:
News voictrakers from cleveland

So? Those voicetrackers should know better and the pd should at least call them on it! Dumb mistakes like that make them look more stupid than they are.
Maybe the PD did call them on it? Just not on-air, not during a shift, and certainly not right before a time check. ;)
 
Last time I checked Cleveland was still in our time zone.
(not like listening to WOWO in the old days when you'd have to
get our your calendar)
 
If the public doesn't care that a radio station has no (or virtually no) live and/or local air personalities,
that the news is being channeled in from other cities, that the pronunciations are wrong and the time
checks are inaccurate, I'd say the public is getting exactly what it deserves. Next question.

C.
 
cingram said:
If the public doesn't care that a radio station has no (or virtually no) live and/or local air personalities,
that the news is being channeled in from other cities, that the pronunciations are wrong and the time
checks are inaccurate, I'd say the public is getting exactly what it deserves. Next question.

C.

I couldn't have put it any better, except to boil it down to my favorite phrase: Public interest, convenience and necessity.
 
cingram said:
If the public doesn't care that a radio station has no (or virtually no) live and/or local air personalities,
that the news is being channeled in from other cities, that the pronunciations are wrong and the time
checks are inaccurate, I'd say the public is getting exactly what it deserves. Next question.

C.

What it shows is people like the programming on the station and don't much care about minor issues: You can always punch up KDKA on the hour to get four minutes of news. Most people don't depend on radio to tell them the time, and are mis-pronounciations of town names worse than people like Marty Griffin and Rob Pratte playing fast and loose with facts?

Local isn't always better. In the '80s, I was much more inclined to listen to Larry King's Mutual show overnights than I was Perry Marshall's show on KDKA. King interviewed newsmakers and celebrities; Marshall listened to old people complain about their aches and pains.

Most listeners have chosen the syndicated stuff over Griffin, Pintek and Mangino. Doesn't KDKA get that clear message and realize it needs to make big changes?
 
Boss Radio said:
Most people don't depend on radio to tell them the time,

You're listening to the NEW sound of The Wristwatch 1550, WLFP.
All-Time-All-the-Time! Part of the WWV Network.

Right now it's 3:15. And coming up at 3:22 we'll have 3:22.
And don't forget to tune in later today at 5:35 for 5:35.

RIght now, by request....it's 3:16.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
Right now, by request....it's 3:16.

This time check is brought to you by Cornerstone Television, which reminds you ... John 3:16.

Remember, time spent listening is time well spent!

Give us 22 minutes, and we'll give you 22 minutes.

C.
 
Boss Radio said:
What it shows is people like the programming on the station and don't much care about minor issues: You can always punch up KDKA on the hour to get four minutes of news. Most people don't depend on radio to tell them the time, and are mis-pronounciations of town names worse than people like Marty Griffin and Rob Pratte playing fast and loose with facts?

Local isn't always better. In the '80s, I was much more inclined to listen to Larry King's Mutual show overnights than I was Perry Marshall's show on KDKA. King interviewed newsmakers and celebrities; Marshall listened to old people complain about their aches and pains.

Most listeners have chosen the syndicated stuff over Griffin, Pintek and Mangino. Doesn't KDKA get that clear message and realize it needs to make big changes?

Nothing wrong with syndicated personalities as long as they're good. Howard Stern was more compelling than a
lot of local morning shows, and no one was under the illusion that either he or Rush Limbaugh were originating at
the local station.

I could make a different case for pre-recorded/voicetracked personalities who come from out of the market, and
don't even know how to pronounce the names of local suburbs.

KDKA's problem is that they are on the AM dial, and that they're "your parents' station," and their biggest enemy
is the obituary column.

C.
 
KDKA's biggest enemy is lousy programming, outside of the afternoon news block. Put their current lineup on FM and they'd get whomped just as badly as they are now.
 
Boss Radio said:
KDKA's biggest enemy is lousy programming, outside of the afternoon news block. Put their current lineup on FM and they'd get whomped just as badly as they are now.

Tradio...Mangino...yea they are a shell of their former self.
 
Nothing wrong with syndicated personalities as long as they're good. Howard Stern was more compelling than a
lot of local morning shows, and no one was under the illusion that either he or Rush Limbaugh were originating at
the local station.

I could make a different case for pre-recorded/voicetracked personalities who come from out of the market, and
don't even know how to pronounce the names of local suburbs.


You are so right on Clarke!

Also, listening to the CC voicetracked shows are terrible! Sound quality and content quality just terrible! CC really took the "personality" out of radio.
 
In CC's defense, there are some cities where I think they do a pretty good job. Cleveland is one good
example. The CHR (WAKS) has always had it over Kiss here, and despite some unfortunate reductions
in staff, WMJI has always been a fine oldies station that has not abandoned "oldies" the way 3WS has.
I'm sure it doesn't hurt that two old radio hands from Pittsburgh, Kevin Metheny and Keith Abrams, are
the ones most recently responsible for the Cleveland stations. In comparison I find Pittsburgh radio to
be singularly unspectacular.

C.
 
I just read through this whole thread and... well, I don't really care (about tiiiiiime)... ;D
 
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