Does ANYONE think DaveFm is better?

[Insideradio]

Wow..

I've tried to listen a few times, and I find myself punching out quickly! Maybe it's me, but deeper 10,000 Maniac tracks just don't get it done. The imaging is still boring, and Sully, who took over for Eric, is just as bland. Does anyone think this is going to work? Or are they just buying time for something else?

 

[radioriot7]

I'll say it again - it's just a quick fix to keep advertisers happy during football season. It's impossible to change formats during football with so many advertisers, contracts etc... After the Falcons are done - so will DAVE.

The station is pathethic and the Imaging is worse - if possible.

 

[mshawnarnold]

I still like DAVE. I think simplifying their playlist into "deeper 10,000 Maniacs tracks" isn't very fair. In fact, I enjoy the playlist quite a bit. As do most of my friends. From strictly a programming perspective, I enjoy Dave a lot more than other stations. That's kind of the point of having different radio stations.

And, this has nothing to do with the Falcons contract. I'll bet you a dollar, when the season is over, it doesn't affect Dave or it's structure at all....

Bottom line is, everyone on this board acts like every show or jock on every day part should be some ground-breaking, redefining modern radio messiah, and that's just never going to happen. So, each individual person has to make a decision about what they like. Me, I like their tunes the best against other stations, and I feel like I'm past the point of where someone going out with a DAT recorder and act like their taking a dump at a toilet display in a Home Depot is funny to me.

But, my opinion is one of many, and I certainly don't have all the answers. At least, not as many answers as everyone here seems to....

 

[Miss_Anthrope]

But, my opinion is one of many, and I certainly don't have all the answers. At least, not as many answers as everyone here seems to....

I've seen the numbers. Trust me, your opinion is not one of MANY. At least ones that agree with you.

That said given the terrible ratings, could Dave just be a niche station that does one thing and one thing only right (there are some great examples of those around the country).

No. Just bland. I agree about the imagining. The writing is awful, sure.

But the voice guy sounds like...

You bought a house to renovate, it's all broken down. Seven months into the project, you and your two man crew bust through some rotted planks in the basement floor and shine a light down into the splintered hole. Some greasy haired guy looks up through blood shot eyes, mouth covered in brown gravy as he's eating with his finers out of a tin can of what appears to be stew. Could be two year old cream corn. He raises his hand to block your light, all you see is the long, matted hair and a wall of brown cans.

The guy then said, "92-9. Dave F-M"

He's got that kind of voice.

 

[attaboy]

Are you saying that Shawn Mullins has been hiding in my basement?? I don't even have a basement.

 

[TheRealOtherNeil]

Better than what? I have gone on enough about this station. Fire Michelle!

 

[RoddyFreeman]

Dave's imaging is typical of true AAA stations around the country. I believe the same voice guy was doing KINK in Portland for quite a while. Dave isn't exactly AAA but does play a lot of stuff those stations play.

 

[troone]

1) Its starting to sound like Album 88. I'm 38 and began listening to DAVE becuase I want to hear music from 1981-2001. The new music is way too much in heavy rotation. Go back to the 80s, Dave!

2) How would you like to be Firfer coming to work and the promo comes on: "And Holly Firfer gives you just enough information to prevent ignorance." Wow. I think I would just turn around and call in sick. That's the most pathetic line ever written for a promo. Considering Firfer was a CNN journalist, I bet she finds it very ironic, to say the least.

3) I agree about the voice guy. Also, it sounds like some of his takes are bad. Sounds like some words dont get out cleanly. I just assumed he was somebody's buddy doing it on the cheap, just starting out.

 

[mshawnarnold]

The "my opinion is one of many" line refers to all the people who have opinions, not the people who share my opinion, but, I appriciate you trying to conjure an insult out of nothing.

I also don't quite understand how I've read multiple people post on different strings that DAVE is dead, but, as of the last trend, the moning show, middays, afternoon, and night dayparts in their target demos were all in the low to high threes, and each show was in the top ten. And, when you add that to the fact that roughly one share separates the tenth position from the fourth position, it seems to me that they are just as likely to survive as anyone. I mean, a half a share move puts you in top 5 or 6, and that's not so bad.

And, why all the hostility towards Shawn Mullins?

 

[mshawnarnold]

FYI - The voice guy is Shawn Mullins.

 

[Insideradio]

The "my opinion is one of many" line refers to all the people who have opinions, not the people who share my opinion, but, I appriciate you trying to conjure an insult out of nothing.

I also don't quite understand how I've read multiple people post on different strings that DAVE is dead, but, as of the last trend, the moning show, middays, afternoon, and night dayparts in their target demos were all in the low to high threes, and each show was in the top ten. And, when you add that to the fact that roughly one share separates the tenth position from the fourth position, it seems to me that they are just as likely to survive as anyone. I mean, a half a share move puts you in top 5 or 6, and that's not so bad.

And, why all the hostility towards Shawn Mullins?

You sound like Michelle trying to justify to her superiors that DaveFm is actually doing well. Trends don't mean squat. The Fall book will pretty much put the dagger in the heart of Dave.

 

[mshawnarnold]

Nope, not Michelle, either. Let's see, in the past few months I've been Barnes and Michelle. Maybe if I keep it up I can be Mara, Margot and Rick Caffey.

Actually, I was just stating the numbers, and, last time I checked, 3 trends makes a book. So, if P3 is up or even flat, they will still be around that 8-10 position in their target demo. And, if you think that Dave is done after this book, you don't have the first clue what you are talking about.

Also, if you did know what you were talking about, you would know that the "superiors" at CBS love Michelle, since she's been in the company for a while and has been sucessful in other markets in which they've placed her. You would also know that the people in New York have committed to making the format work. And, even if it doesn't, all they will do is give her a shot at another station.

And, if trends don't mean squat, then how come everyone hear likes to point them out to justify their arguments every time they come out? In other words, it's completely arbitrary how people choose to interpret them here. Basically, if people like the station, they will go on and on about the up trends and if they don't like it, they will point and shake their finger about how bad they are... Make up your minds...

 

[FloydB]

You first have to have a mind to make up

 

[attaboy]

Seriously, people. Is Shawn Mullins hiding in my basement? I didn't sleep a wink last night.

But I digress. What HAS dave done well? Branding. The station has an aura about it. That's hard to create. That doesn't always translate into numbers, but the station has personality. Some say it's a "too cool for school" personality, but a personality indeed.

Until recently, that is, when it seems to me they should've changed their name to johnmayerFM. In one stop set I heard 3 promos mentioning John Mayer. And I was driving up 85 in the kind of morning that lasts all afternoon. Fitting. But annoying.