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Does Daylight Savings Affect anyone?

C

ChrisTheListener

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Are there any markets that cover the parts of Indiana or Arizona that don't have DST, AND cover parts that do? Does it ever happen that DST forces one market to cover two time zones?

CTL

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A couple markets come to mind:

Yuma AZ/El Centro CA--time zone line
at the state border so they're an hour
off in the winter.

Terre Haute, South Bend and Fort Wayne IN
all spill into adjacent states (IL, MI and OH),
however IN will be a moot point starting
next summer (other than the still-pending
shifting of the time zone boundary).<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by oldiesfan on 10/31/05 12:57 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Several other AZ/CA/NV communities are affected

> A couple markets come to mind:
>
> Yuma AZ/El Centro CA--time zone line
> at the state border so they're an hour
> off in the winter.
>
> Terre Haute, South Bend and Fort Wayne IN
> all spill into adjacent states (IL, MI and OH),
> however IN will be a moot point starting
> next summer (other than the still-pending
> shifting of the time zone boundary).
>

Blythe CA is in the Phoenix TV market so they have to adjust.

The Mohave Valley (Bullhead City AZ, Laughlin NV, Needles CA) is split between two time zones, with CA and NV on Pacific time observing DST and AZ on Mountain time not observing DST. The valley is also in two markets: some of the TV stations there are translators of Phoenix stations (COL Bullhead City, Topock and Needles), others are translators of Las Vegas stations (mostly COL Laughlin), plus they have one full-service station, KMCC, with COL of Laughlin. KMCC used to rebroadcast KVBC Las Vegas, but since their sale earlier this year to Cranston II LLC, I don't know what programming they run now.

Page, Fredonia and Colorado City AZ (or as the reporters in Phoenix call it, "the polygamous community of Colorado City") all get Salt Lake City stations so they deal with the time change as well.

San Luis, Nogales and Douglas border Mexico and get stations from San Luis Rio Colorado, Nogales and Agua Prieta, Sonora, respectively. Sonora is on Mountain time and now observes Daylight Saving Time, but since the Mexican stations are mostly rebroadcasts of Mexico City, I'm not sure if the time change affects them or not. Douglas' Telefutura station serves parts of Sonora, so those people would have to adjust as well.
 
Re: Several other AZ/CA/NV communities are affected

> San Luis, Nogales and Douglas border Mexico and get stations
> from San Luis Rio Colorado, Nogales and Agua Prieta, Sonora,
> respectively. Sonora is on Mountain time and now observes
> Daylight Saving Time, but since the Mexican stations are
> mostly rebroadcasts of Mexico City, I'm not sure if the time
> change affects them or not. Douglas' Telefutura station
> serves parts of Sonora, so those people would have to adjust
> as well.
>
Yes, Mexico shifts from DT to ST along with us.

Interestingly enough, most of Central America (except Nicaragua) does not observe daylight time. So, most of the cable channels in Central America (e.g. Sony, Warner, AXN, Fox LA, etc.) are of the Mexico feed (vs. the Argentina one, 3 hours earlier) & will appear to shift to one hour earlier for Central American viewers.
 
> A couple markets come to mind:
>
> Yuma AZ/El Centro CA--time zone line
> at the state border so they're an hour
> off in the winter.
>
> Terre Haute, South Bend and Fort Wayne IN
> all spill into adjacent states (IL, MI and OH),
> however IN will be a moot point starting
> next summer (other than the still-pending
> shifting of the time zone boundary).
>
Not to start another long thread about DST,
but I learned something the other day that
could be pertinent to Indiana: Phenix City,
AL, while officially on Central time, unofficially
observes Eastern because it is right across the
Chattahoochee River from Columbus, GA. Given
that, I still think the Ohio-Indiana line could
be the time zone boundary, with those counties
adjacent to Louisville and Cincinnati continuing
to unofficially observe Eastern time. And as for
those people who get Michigan stations, remember
that there are people in Alabama who get Atlanta,
Columbus (GA), and Chattanooga, all of which are
in the Eastern time zone.
 
> > A couple markets come to mind:
> >
> > Yuma AZ/El Centro CA--time zone line
> > at the state border so they're an hour
> > off in the winter.
> >
> > Terre Haute, South Bend and Fort Wayne IN
> > all spill into adjacent states (IL, MI and OH),
> > however IN will be a moot point starting
> > next summer (other than the still-pending
> > shifting of the time zone boundary).
> >
> Not to start another long thread about DST,
> but I learned something the other day that
> could be pertinent to Indiana: Phenix City,
> AL, while officially on Central time, unofficially
> observes Eastern because it is right across the
> Chattahoochee River from Columbus, GA. Given
> that, I still think the Ohio-Indiana line could
> be the time zone boundary, with those counties
> adjacent to Louisville and Cincinnati continuing
> to unofficially observe Eastern time. And as for
> those people who get Michigan stations, remember
> that there are people in Alabama who get Atlanta,
> Columbus (GA), and Chattanooga, all of which are
> in the Eastern time zone.
>

Yes, but the Columbus TV market isn't affected by the time zone issue because the Eastern and Central feeds are the same and both states observe DST. It's the only market to actually have full-power originating stations in 2 time zones (although Cincinnati would become the second if the IN/OH line became the new boundary).
 
Re: Several other AZ/CA/NV communities are affected

> Interestingly enough, most of Central America (except
> Nicaragua) does not observe daylight time. So, most of the
> cable channels in Central America (e.g. Sony, Warner, AXN,
> Fox LA, etc.) are of the Mexico feed (vs. the Argentina one,
> 3 hours earlier) & will appear to shift to one hour earlier
> for Central American viewers.

Same thing happens with viewers of cable programming in Arizona...everything (on national cable networks) is now airing one hour later than it was last week. The exceptions are local cable networks, such as FSN, and Arizona NewsChannel.

On a somewhat related note, in the West, programs on many dual-feed cable networks air at different times on cable systems vs. satellite systems. For example, on most (all?) cable systems in Arizona, FX's Nip/Tuck will air Tuesdays @ 11pm AZ time -- because cable systems take the Pacific feed of FX, the program airs at 10pm PT, and Arizona is (as of Sunday) one hour ahead of PT. However, on DirecTV or DISH Network (both of which offer only the FX East Coast feed, if I'm not mistaken), Nip/Tuck airs Tuesdays @ 8pm AZ time (10pm ET.)
 
Re: Several other AZ/CA/NV communities are affected

> Sonora is on Mountain time and now observes
> Daylight Saving Time...

Unless they just changed their mind and are
going to DST next spring--and I have a few
reliable time zone/DST sources which have
not indicated this--Sonora has, for a few
years now, remained on MST year-round, due
to their close commerce ties with AZ.

Sonora did go on DST for the first couple
of years that (all of) Mexico went on it
but eventually got exempted.
 
> > > A couple markets come to mind:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Not to start another long thread about DST,
> > but I learned something the other day that
> > could be pertinent to Indiana: Phenix City,
> > AL, while officially on Central time, unofficially
> > observes Eastern because it is right across the
> > Chattahoochee River from Columbus, GA. Given
> > that, I still think the Ohio-Indiana line could
> > be the time zone boundary, with those counties
> > adjacent to Louisville and Cincinnati continuing
> > to unofficially observe Eastern time. And as for
> > those people who get Michigan stations, remember
> > that there are people in Alabama who get Atlanta,
> > Columbus (GA), and Chattanooga, all of which are
> > in the Eastern time zone.
> >
>
> Yes, but the Columbus TV market isn't affected by the time
> zone issue because the Eastern and Central feeds are the
> same and both states observe DST. It's the only market to
> actually have full-power originating stations in 2 time
> zones (although Cincinnati would become the second if the
> IN/OH line became the new boundary).
>
True, but here's my scenario: Indiana goes on CST statewide
(CDT in the summer statewide). Now what you have is analogous
to Alabama. Ohio is already in the same time zone as Georgia.
Keeping the Ohio River counties UNOFFICIALLY on Eastern is the
same as keeping Phenix City unofficially on Eastern.
 
> > > > A couple markets come to mind:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Not to start another long thread about DST,
> > > but I learned something the other day that
> > > could be pertinent to Indiana: Phenix City,
> > > AL, while officially on Central time, unofficially
> > > observes Eastern because it is right across the
> > > Chattahoochee River from Columbus, GA. Given
> > > that, I still think the Ohio-Indiana line could
> > > be the time zone boundary, with those counties
> > > adjacent to Louisville and Cincinnati continuing
> > > to unofficially observe Eastern time. And as for
> > > those people who get Michigan stations, remember
> > > that there are people in Alabama who get Atlanta,
> > > Columbus (GA), and Chattanooga, all of which are
> > > in the Eastern time zone.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, but the Columbus TV market isn't affected by the time
>
> > zone issue because the Eastern and Central feeds are the
> > same and both states observe DST. It's the only market to
>
> > actually have full-power originating stations in 2 time
> > zones (although Cincinnati would become the second if the
> > IN/OH line became the new boundary).
> >
> True, but here's my scenario: Indiana goes on CST statewide
> (CDT in the summer statewide). Now what you have is
> analogous
> to Alabama. Ohio is already in the same time zone as
> Georgia.
> Keeping the Ohio River counties UNOFFICIALLY on Eastern is
> the
> same as keeping Phenix City unofficially on Eastern.

It has already been decided by the US DOT that most of Indiana will remain on EST & observe EDT. There are only a few counties around Evansville & Chicago on CST. A few counties boardering these counties may get permission to change. Central Time is extremely unpopular in most of Indiana.
>
 
> It has already been decided by the US DOT that most of
> Indiana will remain on EST & observe EDT. There are only a
> few counties around Evansville & Chicago on CST. A few
> counties boardering these counties may get permission to
> change. Central Time is extremely unpopular in most of
> Indiana.
> >
>

Yes, I thought the US DOT determined America's time zone boundaries, not any state or local government.

BTW who fixes time zone boundaries in Canada?

ixnay
 
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