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Doghouse - O&A on air BATTLE at 10:30AM!!

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I just had to modify this... was today's Doghouse a repeat or was it live? Looking at the previous thread, I can't tell. If this was from an earlier episode, then i'm sorry. However, if it was live, then it was a fantastic piece of audio:

Heres my original post-
It's been a while since i've had the urge to post about something that happened on the air, but today's Doghouse show was unusually exciting. Apparently, O&A ran over their 9pm stop time this morning due to an "extended" story from Anthony, thus pushing back a scheduled interview into the 9am hour. As a result, they didn't get off the air until 9:30am. This pissed JV and Elvis off enough that they actually called O&A (or O&A called them) from Sirrius. As a result, both shows got into a live, on air battle about who was right- Doghouse argued that they should be allowed to start at their scheduled time, O&A said basically that since their show is syndicated and "bigger", they are allowed to go over. The convo ended badly for JV, who was told by O&A that they should go back to San Francisco. Opie also kept harping on the fact that management wants them to push their slot to 10am. Very sandboxy, but great radio none the less, to have two shows that are on the same carrier duking it out over satellite and terrestrial. I only heard JV and Elvis's side after the debate, however I would have loved to hear the XM feed. All I know is Opie sounded pissed, and JV wasn't much happier.

What I want to know is how does this affect the syndicated markets? Do they sign off at 9 regardless or do the stations have to keep the show on until signoff? However, this was probably one of the best segments I have heard on a morning show in quite some time.
 
Shades of WNEW with the fighting between shows/hosts. Not good for the long-term success of the format or station but certainly fun to listen too (assuming of course its not all just a gimmick).

O&A are the big draw to Free FM and it would make sense to keep them on until 10am if that can be worked out. Given O&A's success at bringing in listeners, JV & Elvis should be trying to work with O&A to keep the lead-in instead of going head-to-head. I see that as a no-win situation for JV & Elvis.
 
Andrew J. Gladding said:
What I want to know is how does this affect the syndicated markets? Do they sign off at 9 regardless or do the stations have to keep the show on until signoff?
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I'm guessing they stay on until sign-off. Down south, the John Boy & Billy Big Show always runs over 10am, and the affiliates keep with them until the show ends. It's been that way ever since I can remember.
 
This was great radio today. Having JV and Elvis fighting it out with O & A. I want a Pay per view event with the 2 of them fighting it out. And everyone knows that JV will take the 2 of them by himself. And to clear something else up O & A called Doghouse from XM.
 
Some of the best radio I have heard in a long time! FREE FM would be smart and keep it up.
 
I agree 100%, but the problem will be that O & A think that they are millionaires now and they do not have to do anything. " We are millionaires and have the morning slot" Do they really have the morning slot the way they want it? I do not think so, they are still under the foot of CBS Radio. Why you might ask? Well is this the same show they did at XM or WNEW, not it is a watered down nothing.
 
Does anyone have this airchecked? I would've loved to hear this.

The smart move for Free FM would obviously to extend O and A (E, inside joke for those who read this board regularly). However, the Dog House wants it so bad and for them to get on at 9 a.m. is a chance for a bigger audience and they want to build their show.

So for them starting late is a big detriment to them as their audience is lessened. It's tough to win any arguement with O & A because they are so established in NY while Elvis and JV are newcomers. Flip it to the west coast, where let's say the Dog House was in morning drive and O and A are in middays, like they are now on Free FM SF tape delayed. O and A would be crushed.

I think the days of the Dog House on FREE Fm in NY may be numbered, given the fact that they are not happy with how they are treated on the station. If they do go, I hope they come back to SF.
 
Word Life,

Well you missed some of the best radio I have ever heard. Both sides were going back at each other. Jim Norton was doing all the talking for O and A and JV and Elvis were just hammering away. At one point JV called Opie, Dopie and said he is only a board OP. Norton dropped the F-bomb a few times. O and A called into the Doghouse show from XM. Someone has said this might be staged, but I do not think so. It seemed like an all out war.

All the best
 
the xm audio is on the O&A site. I wish O& A would just stay on xm they are boring now. I remember back in the wnew days they they were funny now opie sucks. Anthony is funny .The doghouse had every right to bitch. Theyw ant to go on at 9. They have a schedual and guest and all lined up.Opie has turned into what he hates and thats howard. Opie's ego is just like howards now. This is the death of 2 great radio shows Opie will bring down O&A and the dog hous e will leave ny. This makes me sad :(
 
I heard the audio live from free fm and listened to the xm and the free fm was better. In the xm audio u hear opie say jv did the radio thing and say they had to dump out so stuff wont air meanwhile on the xm side you can hear norton curse like 12 times opie is a ****** he was just trying to make the doghouse look bad .
 
dmargalotti said:
Shades of WNEW with the fighting between shows/hosts. Not good for the long-term success of the format or station but certainly fun to listen too (assuming of course its not all just a gimmick).

O&A are the big draw to Free FM and it would make sense to keep them on until 10am if that can be worked out. Given O&A's success at bringing in listeners, JV & Elvis should be trying to work with O&A to keep the lead-in instead of going head-to-head. I see that as a no-win situation for JV & Elvis.
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Youre right, shades of WNEW and look how that turned out? compelling radio? yes it was. Smart radio? no it was not, not for either show for just the reasons you gave my man, it's shades of WNEW all over again and they cant afford another debacle like that. Tomorrow's 8 am hour will be interesting.
 
joeynox said:
he was just trying to make the doghouse look bad .
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No, I'm quite sure that the Doghouse show takes care of that issue just fine.

Look, if JV and Elvis want to go back to San Fran, LET THEM. I've had absolutely NO compulsion to listen to FNY outside of O&A and the music on the weekends. There is NOTHING else I want to listen to on that station, and let us not forget that O&A have a show READY TO GO if JV and Elvis are gone.
 
I have some FREE FM audio I couldnt get all of it, Ill post it lster tonight.
 
opie made himselfe look bad. He made himself sound like a ego maniac. As the fight was going on jv and elvis were still being entertaining and opie and jimmy werent, opie just sounded like a phsyco and jimmy is a bulldog gotta love that lil man. the money and fame went to op's head hes just a lil blonde howie now. Its a shame because if the station shows the doghouse some love the station could do good. But as you cans ee by the 7pm and on just shows that the management has no clue what to do .
 
joeynox said:
opie made himselfe look bad. He made himself sound like a ego maniac. As the fight was going on jv and elvis were still being entertaining and opie and jimmy werent, opie just sounded like a phsyco and jimmy is a bulldog gotta love that lil man. the money and fame went to op's head hes just a lil blonde howie now. Its a shame because if the station shows the doghouse some love the station could do good. But as you cans ee by the 7pm and on just shows that the management has no clue what to do .
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Joey, you sir are a hack. It is obvious to everyone who has read your comments in this thread that you are just a shrill for the "Doghouse". Opie only started boasting about himself after JV and Elvis started calling him "just a board op". Good luck bro.

O&A Party Rock,

Ryan
 
its not just today yo uc an hear it when ever he speaks. I like the doghouse but I do liek Ant and jim. The O&A from wnew were great but the 2006 o& a aren't.They are just not funny anymore.From the start of the fight jv was calm and all and several times stated he had no prob with them but with management and opie didnt care. He acted like king shit just like howie. I do think that both side were wrong for bringing up personal shit between elvis and anthonys girl or ant being a alcoholic.
 
Sounds like it's starting again.

I've been saying for months that it's only a matter of time before O&A do something so stupid that they'll get their butts fired again. If they don't reign it in, that's exactly where they're headed. Again.
 
I remember hearing that O&A (or Jim) saying that they wanted to do a comedy tour in '02, then they did it in '06.

Here is a link the Doghouse Comedy Jam in '01
http://www.latinbayarea.com/channels/photogallery/galleries_2001/8_25_2001_ComedyJam/index.htm
 
There will probably be bias in this post, but here is what I can clarify from the arguement if you did download it.

--The poster above beat me to the link. Yes, comedy tours were always there but were never successful until The Dog House did it. Unheard of, 25,000+ sell-out in Pleasenton, California--a good 30 miles south of San Francisco, year after year. Jv went to a club and saw Carlos Mencia and Pablo Francisco and thought it would be cool to get that many people. He made it happened. Now people are running with that idea, as evident by the O and A tour, which was in so many markets, so please don't kid yourselves that O and A put it together.

--If the Dog House was so great, why weren't they in more markets? The station they were on did nothing for them. No backing whatsoever. They were offered Big Boy's position in LA in the late 90s, but turned it down because they did not want to leave their listeners in the Bay Area.

--Also, what you see on Jackass is basically what was ripped off from the Dog House. Same story here. They didn't want to move to LA, so Jackass listened to their show and replicated their stunts. Videos the Dog House put out years before Jackass came out can prove it.

If O and A are that great, and I am not saying their show isn't, why can't they put the station on their back like Howard did? I am not a radio expert or try to play one on this board, but how were ratings in other day parts when Howard signed off? I can't imagine they were that good. If they were, why change from KRock to the Free FM format?

Howard seemed to be so good that he made up for the parts of the station that dragged it down. For O and A to blame the 9-10 hour on the Dog House is unfair. 75% of it is O and A--take blame for that.

Radio is a team game. Even when the Dog House hated their station, they pumped up rest of the day parts and made their station successful. Ashame egos can't be put aside for the betterment of the station.

Sorry to seem like the Dog House apologist...That's my take.
 
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