Donna Reed Show question

[rwells2265]

Here's something I'd like to put before the panel of experts:

I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a Shokus Video tape of 'daytime repeats.' But instead of the commercials being the usual suspects (laundry detergent, floor wax, etc.), they were all 'teen'-oriented -- e.g. Solarcaine, Dr. Pepper, and a Dentyne commercial which contained Dick Clark AB wraparounds!

Going by the commercials and "Bandstand" set (it had the familiar AB insignia that first appeared in 1969), I'd peg this alleged broadcast as being in 1969 or 70.

My question is, did ABC air Donna Reed repeats on Saturday mornings, perhaps adjacent to that week's AB? And WHY?

Or could this be a doctored kinescope? I'm confuzzed...

 

[ViewStu]

> Here's something I'd like to put before the panel of
> experts:
>
> I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a Shokus
> Video tape of 'daytime repeats.' But instead of the
> commercials being the usual suspects (laundry detergent,
> floor wax, etc.), they were all 'teen'-oriented -- e.g.
> Solarcaine, Dr. Pepper, and a Dentyne commercial which
> contained Dick Clark AB wraparounds!
>
> Going by the commercials and "Bandstand" set (it had the
> familiar AB insignia that first appeared in 1969), I'd peg
> this alleged broadcast as being in 1969 or 70.
>
> My question is, did ABC air Donna Reed repeats on Saturday
> mornings, perhaps adjacent to that week's AB? And WHY?
>
> Or could this be a doctored kinescope? I'm confuzzed...
>
It could be a little of both.
I don't have my copy of Brooks and Marsh handy, but I remember reading that ABC did rerun Donna Reed on Saturday mornings in the mid-to-late 60s, as late as 1969.
Not sure why one of those AB commercials would have aired outsdide of that program, though.

 

[Braves2005]

>
> I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a Shokus
> Video tape of 'daytime repeats.' But instead of the
> commercials being the usual suspects (laundry detergent,
> floor wax, etc.), they were all 'teen'-oriented -- e.g.
> Solarcaine, Dr. Pepper, and a Dentyne commercial which
> contained Dick Clark AB wraparounds!
>
> Going by the commercials and "Bandstand" set (it had the
> familiar AB insignia that first appeared in 1969), I'd peg
> this alleged broadcast as being in 1969 or 70.
>
> My question is, did ABC air Donna Reed repeats on Saturday
> mornings, perhaps adjacent to that week's AB? And WHY?
>
> Or could this be a doctored kinescope? I'm confuzzed...
>
The Donna Reed Show never aired in repeats on Saturday mornings during its daytime run from December 1964 to March 1968. It could have been that it would have been a Friday airing of the show which featured Dick Clark announcing who was going to be on American Bandstand that Saturday and also may have aired during the summer judging by the commercials that aired. It would have aired between the summers of 1965 through 1967.

Or another possibility would be since you say it was from 1969 or 1970,another guess might be it would have been an ABC station carrying syndicated reruns of Donna Reed and American Bandstand being promoted for that week.

 

[bpatrick]

> >
> >
> It could be a little of both.
> I don't have my copy of Brooks and Marsh handy, but I
> remember reading that ABC did rerun Donna Reed on Saturday
> mornings in the mid-to-late 60s, as late as 1969.
> Not sure why one of those AB commercials would have aired
> outsdide of that program, though.
>
ABC never reran Donna Reed on Saturday mornings; it did
rerun Bewitched as late as the 1972-73 season.

 

[KingDaevid]

> I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a Shokus
> Video tape of 'daytime repeats.'

...why on Earth would anybody kinescope a filmed program?!? My guess is that the print Shokus used was bicycled to a local station that inserted the commercials themselves, or Shokus inserted them to simulate an actual broadcast...<P ID="signature">______________
King Daevid MacKenzie
WLSU Wisconsin Public Radio, La Crosse
heard weekly on http://www.radio4all.net/
"Kill Ugly Radio." FRANK ZAPPA</P>

 

[KMRichards]

> I don't have my copy of Brooks and Marsh handy, but I
> remember reading that ABC did rerun Donna Reed on Saturday
> mornings in the mid-to-late 60s, as late as 1969.

I checked the Castleman & Podrazik book (and thanks to Bob Patrick for recommending it to me) for the entire period that ABC had daytime reruns of Donna Reed and there is no period of time where there was a Saturday broadcast.

Nor is there any period where the weekday rerun was adjacent to American Bandstand; the reruns started in 1965 and the weekday Bandstand ended in 1963. Besides, the Donna Reed reruns were always at noon or 12:30pm ET, far from AB's timeslot.<P ID="signature">______________


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[bayusm1]

>
> I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a Shokus
> Video tape of 'daytime repeats.' >
Where can one get Shokus videos now a days?

 

[ccmfan]

> >
> > I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a
> Shokus
> > Video tape of 'daytime repeats.' >
> Where can one get Shokus videos now a days?
>

Here's their website: http://www.shokus.com/

 

[rwells2265]

> > I recently got hold of a DONNA REED SHOW kine, from a
> Shokus
> > Video tape of 'daytime repeats.'
>
> ...why on Earth would anybody kinescope a filmed program?!?
> My guess is that the print Shokus used was bicycled to a
> local station that inserted the commercials themselves, or
> Shokus inserted them to simulate an actual broadcast...

I believe you might be confusing Shokus with RHINO. Shokus has never (to my knowledge) tampered with kines. If the commercials have been removed from a particular program, they offer it as is. OTOH, I recall Rhino selling a series of tapes in the mid-ish '80s, a virtual 'prime time' from the '50s. I saw one, and half of the commericals were inserted from another reel. Jack Benny with LISTERINE ads? Don't think so.

What complicates this mystery is that, despite commercials clearly from the 1969-70 era, the program ends with the mid '60s ABC "camera" ... by '69, ABC kines were tagged with a still CGI-style ABC logo (animated at the beginning of the "Movie of the Week" broadcasts -- a nice open sequence years ahead of its time)

Kinescopes WERE offered of filmed programs, more often daytime repeats -- I believe they were 16mm prints sent out to smaller ABC affils not connected to the cable, or more often secondary ABCs in medium markets. I have some TVGs where the regular ABCs carry, say, the daytime "Bewitched" rerun in color, but another secondary affil runs it in late afternoon, but the listing doesn't have a (C) bullet.