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Don't people in Lafayette know what day it is?

Okay...I don't know how this post went from critiquing crutches of a night jock at K105 to arguing about recording affidavits, but I'll take a stab at this.

At a jockless (or near jockless) radio station or a station that utilizes merging equipment to get the log from the traffic system to the on-air automation system, it is the responsibility of the traffic director to ultimately know whether the spot actually aired on the station. If your station does not have a traffic director, it's the duty of whoever generated the log and entered it into the system. Many automation systems "error" out certain spots when either entering them in by hand or when importing the traffic log. It would be ridiculous for nobody to lookover the log in the on-air automation just to make sure everything went in to the system correctly (BTW--most stations have to enter other elements by hand anyway like weather, jock notes, features, jingles, etc. so someone would have to discover some sort of problem with the log). If whoever is entering the log isn't paying enough subtle attention to discover missing carts or do nothing about it (like find the spot or not enter a discrepancy), they aren't doing their job and should be let go.

As far as paper logs in relation to filling out affidavits, I have never as a programmer, traffic director, and all points in between used the day-to-day logs to fill out affidavits. Maybe in 1985 a TD, PD, APD, etc. could do something like that, but in 2006 when your TD is either generating several logs each day for the 5 stations in the building or is multitasking for a standalone, it's just poor time management. Why go through each hour and look for a client that had a spread of 2 per day from 6a-midnight when you can easily print out a day-by-day breakdown by client, go right to the information needed to fill out the affidavit, and enter it via the supplied website or affidavit forms accordingly. I would love to see a paperless radio station. The traffic director is probably on the verge of opening fire on everyone in the building. If any department needs paper files, whether it's station logs, production orders, broadcast orders, etc., it's the traffic department.
 
Lafayette Unplugged said:
I've wrote about this on other boards.

Most jocks read off of index cards, say their names, the time, and/or the time of day (sometimes all in the same break!). And then they pick the song selected for them on the computer. Or they play the heavily edited phoner to match up a song they already have coming up. Spontanaity is in short supply.

"Hey, it's ______________ with ya"

"Got some __________________comin' up for ya"

"We're gonna be givin' away_____________"

Pick a crutch...any crutch...

::)


Easy there. Does anyone even know the name of the k105 jock they are bashing? And never anything wrong with pluggin upcomming prizes during the show. And if we are adding crutches, why not post some that are on this board like...

"Man, ________ used to be a good place when I worked there 40 years ago"

"I heard _________ is flipping formats"

"I Can't believe Artistic fired _________"
 
or crutches like having a few different names to hide behind.
 
NiteTimeDelight said:
Lafayette Unplugged said:
I've wrote about this on other boards.

Most jocks read off of index cards, say their names, the time, and/or the time of day (sometimes all in the same break!). And then they pick the song selected for them on the computer. Or they play the heavily edited phoner to match up a song they already have coming up. Spontanaity is in short supply.

"Hey, it's ______________ with ya"

"Got some __________________comin' up for ya"

"We're gonna be givin' away_____________"

Pick a crutch...any crutch...

::)


Easy there. Does anyone even know the name of the k105 jock they are bashing? And never anything wrong with pluggin upcomming prizes during the show. And if we are adding crutches, why not post some that are on this board like...

"Man, ________ used to be a good place when I worked there 40 years ago"

"I heard _________ is flipping formats"

"I Can't believe Artistic fired _________"

Does anyone go back and read previous posts, or do they just comment on the last one?

I don't know who the nite jock on K-105 is and I don't care. I had a general observation about what I hear as commonplace on the radio and wrote down some examples (quoted again here).

Thurston Howell went off on his "keeping track of spots" jag which Apollo explained very nicely so the rest of us don't have to keep looking at each other with our mouths hanging open wondering what the heck he was talking about.

I don't think I'm "gonnabegivinaway" any secrets about that. ;D
 
tjthedj said:
You said, "There's no way for any client to dispute anything if you have a papertrail of computer logs, invoices, co-op filed, times and titles for each spot, etc."

See you in court! I WOULD NOT PAY because you can't prove the right ad ran. I'd go to a station that could PROVE my ads ran.

I might be a thousand miles away. Your an underpaid student radio geek who is eating pizza and doing homework when my spots ran. There are tomato sauce stains on the log that make it unreadable. You'd lie, anyway! In your example, you can't prove to me the correct spot ran.

I'd LOVE for you to sue me. I OWNED a station where the previous owner was seldom paid co-op money because he NEVER provided verifiable information. That owner also said they ran alot of religious programs that never "really' ran. THAT happened in 1973. That station owner was about to be sued for fraud (before he died of a heart attack and I bought the station, and made the red ink black within a year). You'd certainly need better verification today.

Your invoice doesn't really mean squat. YOU could tell me anything. LOTS of radio stations don't drop power when they are supposed to, actually jeopardizing their licenses. Why then, should they NOT lie on invoices?

I worked for a few stations, including WAZY, WIND and KMOX. I OWNED 4 (for 13 years) and sold them for a million three hundred thousand in 1985. I also found and sold the frequecies that are now WGLM, WNDZ and some others in the midwest.

Good luck.

I just figured it out. This is actually dialogue from Gloria Swanson as Nora Desmond from "Sunset Boulevard" !

:eek:
 
I Think I've got it Gilligan....

"I've wrote about this on other boards.

Most jocks read off of index cards, say their names, the time, and/or the time of day (sometimes all in the same break!). And then they pick the song selected for them on the computer. Or they play the heavily edited phoner to match up a song they already have coming up. Spontanaity is in short supply.

"Hey, it's ______________ with ya"

"Got some __________________comin' up for ya"

"We're gonna be givin' away_____________"

Pick a crutch...any crutch..."

Well; differing opinions, arguing, the last word, unclear writing, a woman with an opposing view and CRUTCHES..

THIS is certainly dialogue from either The McLaughlin Group or SCRUBS.
 
If this is the worst you have to complain about with "the night jock on K105," then Brian should take it as a compliment. He does great caller interaction and on-air games as well. He's an all around good guy also!
 
"It's all in the details."

It's not ok to say that "if this is all you can say..." All the small things add up to make a unified whole. He should still work on fixing this crutch. He may still be brilliant in everything else he does, but he should still fix his weaknesses.

All air talent need to work on making themselves better - in everything they do. You don't have to be perfect, but at least be aware when you might be doing something that might annoy listeners.
 
As I said (again), I've never heard the guy.

But I felt I had a legit list of crutches that are still out there and always will be whoever the jock is and whatever the station is.

I thought of another one, in fact:

"That was 'No Matter What' by Badfinger. And, ya know, NO MATTER WHAT you're doing this afternoon, we've got some great music for it"

"That was 'Whole Lotta Love' by Zeppelin. And, ya know we've got A WHOLE LOTTA rain moving in to the area tonight"

Feel free to also insert the phoney laugh in there, too. :D
 
leakyimplant said:
i agree wit nite some of yall are haters

I love ya like a sister, Leak.

Having said that, HATE is a bit much.

Instead of the RACE card, everybody plays the HATE card.

Once the dialogue becomes a bit "spirited" or "opinionated", everybody jumps up and says
"WHOA! STOP THE HATE!"

In order to be a hater, I feel there has to be some HATE in there somewhere, no? ;D
 
if k105 go off the air for the ful book, it will always be numbre one we in radio call it haritage. 1029 is making me sick anymre to much hip hop jamz, this is lafayette.
 
There's no hate here, just people who care about radio and want it to sound good. What I see is a bunch of people who are just too lazy to make themselves better on the air - and are stuck working in smaller markets because they can't get a job in a bigger market. These same people don't think they need to improve either. The original post should have only mentioned the situation of saying what day it is rather than making a comment about someone specific. Then we would have had a nice discussion with out bringing out the people who play the hate card.

Also, TJTHEDJ, I question whether you ever worked in radio. If you were to apply your standard of proving that commercials aired, you would have your jocks say the complete date and time into every break and before every spot. And then we would have to send a cassette (or CD) of the audio proving the spot aired and at what time with the invoice. But then again, someone could just make it up in the production studio.
 
Radio2100 said; If you were to apply y0our standard of proving that commercials aired, you would have your jocks say the complete date and time into every break and before every spot. And then we would have to send a cassette (or CD) of the audio proving the spot aired and at what time with the invoice. But then again, someone could just make it up in the production studio.

NO. You were not paying attention! No casettes to agencies. This my friend, is the way it's done in alot of stations, where the person who SENDS the affidavit listens to the tape (the DATE is a given from the date of the aircheck listened to - the time is from the timecheck given by the announcer) and notes that the spot ran or not. Then the list is notarized and sent as "proof." Nobody makes up anything. WGN, Chicago is one place using that system.

Remember now, NO hate!
 
Thank you for enlightening me. I've been doing this thing called radio for 20 years at several stations around the country and have yet to experience this.

Interesting.
 
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