• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

Dose the 95.7 move in application doom LPFM in Cincinnati?

G

gabigley1

Dose the 95.7 move in application doom LPFM in Cincinnati??

If this 95.7 application is granted then all 12 LPFM Applications on 95.7 in Cincinnati, Ohio will be simultaneous dismissed. In the meantime, all 12 LPFM Applicants will be put on hold until until the FCC makes a decision on the application for a Cincinnati move in by WHIO-FM.


The Consulting Engineer for one of the LPFM station in Cincinnati told me that he expects at lest some of the LPFM applicants to file a petition with the FCC to deny the WHIO-FM move in to
Cincinnati.

For what its worth, we now have a LPFM station here in Columbus, Ohio that is testing on
102.1 FM.
 
You are right! The four LPFM stations that were about to be born in Cincinnati are all down
the toilet.

A Petition for Rulemaking needs to be filed to put LPFMs on the Table of Allocations with
the FCC. Broadcasters who do local programming need protection. If this is not done soon,
we will see the LPFM service destroyed.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
A Petition for Rulemaking needs to be filed to put LPFMs on the Table of Allocations with
the FCC. Broadcasters who do local programming need protection. If this is not done soon,
we will see the LPFM service destroyed.
Click to expand...

Why should they be given space in the allotment when they universally do not meeting the minimum spacing requirements. Every LPFM that I have dealt with has had horrible engineering and does not even meet the few FCC rules required of them. And who cares if the programming is "local" if no one is listening to it.

They deserve no additional protections. The rules were clear at the beginning of the game. Either find another frequency or save up your pennies and buy a real station.

Ryan
 
Ryan, you must be talking about pirate stations? I am writing about a licensed service
that uses type certified equipment, particapates in EAS and has to meet strict FCC
spacing requirements.
 
No...I'm sure he's talking about LPFM's. While many do follow the rules, quite a few tend to do the following:

- Overmodulate their signal so it will "go farther"
- Up their wattage
- Have no processing chain leading right up into a P.O.S exciter
- Frequently run programming right off a bird 24/7 when in fact, they're supposed to run locally-orignated programming 12 hours a day

I'm not against LPFM (actually, I want to see it expanded) But when many of them run a bad operation, kinda makes the rest look bad, sadly.

Radio-X
 
I'm confused. What dose are they supposed to take? Once in the morning? Once before bedtime? Once a day with milk? Twice daily before meals?
 
All broadcast licensees are suposed to have their equipment installed by competent engineers.
All stations are required to read their transmitter and monitor the stations performance.
Even if the FCC didn't care, we all should. It's called quality.

There are many stations that have full power that sound bad. Some of these are going broke.
But that's another issue.

The main point is that all stations that originate local programming deserve equal protection from
the FCC.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
All broadcast licensees are suposed to have their equipment installed by competent engineers.
All stations are required to read their transmitter and monitor the stations performance.
Even if the FCC didn't care, we all should. It's called quality.
Click to expand...

Got your public file in order? EAS machine working? Tower lights on and fence locked? Seems like that's enough to pass an inspection these days.

Agree from the quality standpoint. If you are going to do LPFM, do it right, and don't go cheap on the transmission system or you will just wind up sounding cheap and probably be out of tolerances too.
 
Weren't the FCC inspectors hot on tower fence signage, tower paint and updated public files the last time they were in town?
 
Unfortunately, there is no 12 hour per day requirement of local program origination.

There is an *optional* 8 hour per day local program origination requirement, but even stations who pledged to do this on their applications have decided that using a "local" computer to record satellite shows, or download internet shows, can count as "local origination," provided such shows are played back on a schedule that isn't directly synchronized with any other radio station.

Personally, I would like some amount of local program origination to be required as a part of the LPFM service period. But, I think there should be some flexibility. For example, local programming should be required to air between 6:00 AM and 11:59:59 PM to count, and live, local programming, where a DJ is actually broadcasting live from either a local studio or a live remote, should count double toward the requirement.
The requirement itself should be 40 hours a week for an LP-100, and 20 hours a week for an LP-10. This would reflect the different nature of LP-10 as more of a hobby service, while still requiring local program origination.

I would also be in favor of counting local, live remotes as being local, even if they are not in the signal range of the LP station itself, as long as they *are* in range of a translator that duplicates said LP station 24/7. This would allow stations which have expanded in this way to serve their entire market.

Programming that is recorded off of a satellite or downloaded from the internet and is greater than 15 minutes in length should not count as locally originated, even if played off of a hard drive at a different time than originally aired. This would allow songs and voicetracking bits to be played during local programming, as well as perhaps short news updates or features, yet prevent entire programs being relayed and labeled "local."
 
I don't think LPFM's have a public file requirement like Full power COmmercial stations do... and the EAS rules are slightly different.
 
EAS for LPFM only requires a decode-only EAS unit. It's either a nod to the budget concerns of most LPFM's or the fact that it's doubtful a situation would ever arise that a LPFM would be used to originate alerts since no other station would monitor it for alerting purposes. The decode-only units still store and forward messages from LP1 and 2 primaries.

73.801 calls out the rules applicable to the LPFM service. 73.3527 (non-comm public file rules) aren't listed as a requirement.
 
PaulBWalkerJr said:
I don't think LPFM's have a public file requirement like Full power COmmercial stations do... and the EAS rules are slightly different.
Click to expand...
No public file requirement. EAS is different. They have to have only Decoders. However, they must log all RWTs, RMTs, and activations. They have to relay the RMT, without the data burst. However, decoders were only available recently, thus many have the full deal. The price difference is not that great. There are some other differences, but Part 73 gear and the FM technical requirements are still required.
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom