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Double Duty For WRXP Jocks

DToTheJ

DToTheJ

According to Radio & Records, midday host Steve Craig has been named assistant program director, and evening jock Brian Phillips adds music director duties.

Gives new meaning to the term "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade"...
 
Basically WRXP is handing out promotions to all the people that will be out of work when the corporate d-bags realize a 1.1 is all they're going to get with classic rock, new music and alternative. They should have made Nik Carter General Manager. Leslie Fram should make herself Vice President of Super Awesome Segues!! That'll look great on her resume.
 
Phillips was previously the MD at WHTG, and I'm glad to see him back in that position. Whether this will have any significant affect on the music selection remains to be seen.
 
buffalotom said:
Basically WRXP is handing out promotions to all the people that will be out of work when the corporate d-bags realize a 1.1 is all they're going to get with classic rock, new music and alternative. They should have made Nik Carter General Manager. Leslie Fram should make herself Vice President of Super Awesome Segues!! That'll look great on her resume.
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Just take the "classic rock" part out of the equation and I'll be a loyal listener.
 
Thats what their commercials say. "Classic Rock, New Music and Alternative."

Phillips was probably the best thing to come out of G-Rock since Pinfield, but I don't
see him taking WRXP into the direction most people would like it to go in.

Almost sucks K-Rock went away cause now WRXP is going to wait and see if they
get any of those listeners, but there weren't many.

My bet, RXP shoots up to a 1.8. I'd be shocked to see them at a 2.0.
 
I seriously doubt that RXP will see much of an increase at all. K-Rock scored its highest ratings during the day with O&A, and the music mix on the station is, for the most part, far different than what RXP plays, even with all of the classic rock in RXP's playlist. It's a totally different kind of listener.

The solution for RXP is, and has been, to focus the d*mn music! The mish-mash of classic rock, alternative, indie, new wave, etc. does not keep people tuned in for very long.
 
Was in the car earlier and heard Bad Co "Feel Like Makin Love" into Lily Freaking Allen!!! If I was near a cliff I would have driven off it. And this was like 10 mins after I calmed down after hearing NIN "Down In It" into Bruce "Pink Cadillac."

(There is no valid point to what I'm about to say, but somehow RXP makes me think about my college radio days.) When I was in college radio and crossed 20 genre lines in a 3 hour shift, I at least tried to group things together. Take people on a ride with me. Not just bonk them on the head with this and that and then a curveball from out of nowhere.
 
buffalotom said:
Was in the car earlier and heard Bad Co "Feel Like Makin Love" into Lily Freaking Allen!!! If I was near a cliff I would have driven off it. And this was like 10 mins after I calmed down after hearing NIN "Down In It" into Bruce "Pink Cadillac."

(There is no valid point to what I'm about to say, but somehow RXP makes me think about my college radio days.) When I was in college radio and crossed 20 genre lines in a 3 hour shift, I at least tried to group things together. Take people on a ride with me. Not just bonk them on the head with this and that and then a curveball from out of nowhere.
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The point is you can HEAR Bruce, Bad Co. and others on Q104.3. You CAN'T HEAR artists like NIN or Lily Allen ANYWHERE ON THE NYC DIAL. Why not serve that fanbase (that being alternative music)? They don't want to sit through tired classic rock acts to hear new music. Yes, many classic rock artists are great bands but we've all been beaten over the head with them nearly 30+ years.
 
Unless the Lily Allen is fan-f%$&@#-tastic, she's got no right being on the radio. And new Lily Allen isn't fan-f%^&$*%-tastic. She's a gossip page whore, that's it. Her first record was like the first Streets record. It was awesome til you heard it 10 times. WRXP got hung up on the Ting Tings and Spoon and Vampire Weekend. And you can love those bands all you want, but they suck for the radio. And then to play crap out of a vintage hit? WHERE'S THE GOD DAMN LOGIC?!!!


We can bitch all we want and beg them to go alt, they won't. And they'll be gone by years end. THEY should have jumped to CHR before K-Rock did.
 
Lily Allen, Spoon, and Vampire Weekend absolutely have a place on the radio, but it's not next to Bad Company. (That was probably the best example of a bad segue I've ever heard.) And I think Springsteen can work with what they're going for, but not after NIN. If they really want to stick to playing a wide spectrum of rock, at least make the music flow a little more.
 
You can give anyone you want "MD" stripes... but Fram is calling the shots and refuses to let the younger minds have say, and until that happens, expect no increase in ratings. What's the point of having good people if you veto all their suggestions??? First thing she should do is retire from being on-air.
 
p_herring said:
buffalotom said:
Was in the car earlier and heard Bad Co "Feel Like Makin Love" into Lily Freaking Allen!!! If I was near a cliff I would have driven off it. <snip>
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The point is you can HEAR Bruce, Bad Co. and others on Q104.3. You CAN'T HEAR artists like NIN or Lily Allen ANYWHERE ON THE NYC DIAL.
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Sure you can -- just not on other commercial stations. Non-commercial stations like WNYE (during their KEXP-controlled programs) and WFUV have played Lily Allen. WNYE has probably played NIN too.

Oddly, every once in a while, one of the KEXP DJs on WNYE, Michele, will stick in a classic rock track during her 6-9 a.m. shift and it's usually just as jarring and nonsensical as on WRXP, but fortunately this is rare. And sometimes it's a suitable, logical track like the Beatles' prescient "Tomorrow Never Knows" which works really well with most current indie or modern rock.
 
buffalotom said:
Basically WRXP is handing out promotions to all the people that will be out of work when the corporate d-bags realize a 1.1 is all they're going to get with classic rock, new music and alternative. They should have made Nik Carter General Manager. Leslie Fram should make herself Vice President of Super Awesome Segues!! That'll look great on her resume.
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AM 1050 WEPN is on the same sinking ship. Nobody listens to them. And does every radio market in the country have to be an espn affliate? Talk about over exposure. ::)
 
buffalotom said:
Unless the Lily Allen is fan-f%$&@#-tastic, she's got no right being on the radio. And new Lily Allen isn't fan-f%^&$*%-tastic.
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Sorry, but I like "The Fear" a whole lot. (Played it before RXP did, too, so neener.)
 
AM 1050 WEPN is on the same sinking ship. Nobody listens to them.
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First of all, how does a comment about WEPN add anything to a discussion about WRXP? Secondly, making a blanket statement such as "nobody listens..." makes you sound ignorant. Granted WEPN's ratings are nothing to brag about and in fact according to the latest Arbitron 12+ PPM numbers, WEPN trails WFAN significantly. But there are people who listen...I happen to be one.

Now as far as WRXP is concerned, I know I'm in the minority but I do for the most part enjoy the music. Some of the segues are hard to take and the lack of consistency in programming needs to be addressed. But there is a lot of good music being played there.

What I don't understand is why they would bring in Nick...oh, sorry...Nik Carter for afternoons when they had Paul Cavalconte filling the shift. Paul has to be one of the smartest, classiest guys on the radio. Shades of Pat St. John in terms of his knowledge of the music and execution of the format.

I never heard Nik until yesterday and maybe I'm too old to get it (45), but Nik did not in my opinion add anything to the station. But what can you expect from a guy who ends his program with "later my bitches"? Bitches...really? I don't think so Nick...oh sorry, Nik.
 
Hubcity, where may I ask did you play Lily Allen's The Fear before WRXP did?

Z-100? WPLJ? Q104? Fresh? 923Now?

My point is... The Spoons and the Lily Allens of the world are great for specialty shows, College radio, noncoms, and Triple AAA. You know the formats that exist so a small percentage of the population can feel cool and more superior than the rest of us who just like a hook. A great PD once said, "the masses are asses." No offense to anybody, but people like to turn on the radio and sing-a-long. You can't sing along to Spoon. And Lily Allen has become useless. The novelty has worn off.

I say this in regards to programming a successful commercial radio station in a major market and not as a music lover who just put the Courteeners in his ipod, because I saw them open for Morrissey and loved them. But I would never add them into rotation on a commercial radio station. UNLESS one of their songs was a hands down hit. To me sure... but to Joe the Plummer in Queens in his truck half the day? No.

And just a little thing I'd like to point out... in the WRXP TV spots it's all alt music, Gaslight Anthem, shot of Billy Corgan, Airborne Toxic Event (who I don't like at all.) and the Bacon Brothers (whatever.) But there's no Van Halen clip or Led Zep mention.

New music + classic rock + Alternative = a train wreck.
 
buffalotom said:
Hubcity, where may I ask did you play Lily Allen's The Fear before WRXP did?

Z-100? WPLJ? Q104? Fresh? 923Now?

My point is... The Spoons and the Lily Allens of the world are great for specialty shows, College radio, noncoms, and Triple AAA. You know the formats that exist so a small percentage of the population can feel cool and more superior than the rest of us who just like a hook. A great PD once said, "the masses are asses." No offense to anybody, but people like to turn on the radio and sing-a-long. You can't sing along to Spoon. And Lily Allen has become useless. The novelty has worn off.

I say this in regards to programming a successful commercial radio station in a major market and not as a music lover who just put the Courteeners in his ipod, because I saw them open for Morrissey and loved them. But I would never add them into rotation on a commercial radio station. UNLESS one of their songs was a hands down hit. To me sure... but to Joe the Plummer in Queens in his truck half the day? No.

And just a little thing I'd like to point out... in the WRXP TV spots it's all alt music, Gaslight Anthem, shot of Billy Corgan, Airborne Toxic Event (who I don't like at all.) and the Bacon Brothers (whatever.) But there's no Van Halen clip or Led Zep mention.

New music + classic rock + Alternative = a train wreck.
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It is attitudes such as that one that make the rest of us suffer. Do we really have to target every radio station in NYC To Joe the Plummer in Queens or Sandra the Long Island Lolita? I mean, a lot of people (and I mean a lot) like Alternative music. See how many people go see Radiohead? Spoon, Vampire Weekend and Lily Allen really aren't that eccentric. There are some hooks to be found (especially for VW), the delivery just isn't the same. Radio needs to at least try to change and adapt to new times rather than just throwing their hands up and going with the lowest common denominator. But, really, thanks for having no faith in any listeners and please keep pumping out that "hit"-oriented playlist.
 
I knew when I wrote that line about a guy in his truck, that's all somebody would zero in on.

Time to live in the real world p herring. If it's charting over at CMJ, in all likelihood it isn't going to play well on Commercial radio. That is fact. And although 'a lot and you mean a lot' of people like Alternative music, that isn't very scientific.

I tried to convey I am a fan of alt music too. Courteeners mention was supposed to handle that. BUT of the 15,000 songs on my ipod, I would only dream of playing 1000 of them on a commercial station. And that's too many.

Let's say KROQ is the best Alt station in the world. Agreed? Ok in the U.S.A. Here is their 1pm hour yesterday...

Muse - Starlight
Rise Against - The Good Left Undone
The Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under The Bridge
The Killers - This Is Your Life
The Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated
Linkin Park - Bleed It Out
Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire
Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing
Depeche Mode - Wrong
Nirvana - Heart-Shaped Box
Weezer - Troublemaker
Weezer - Buddy Holly
Social Distortion - Far Behind
The Postal Service - Such Great Heights

It's not off the deep end playing crap. HIT records. Look a Postal Service track, KROQ MADE THAT A HIT 5 or 6 years ago. You got your core, Nirvana, Jane's, Red Hot's, Weezer. They get 'hip' with Kings/Leon, Muse and the Killers. New music from Rise Against (not that new.) and Depeche. Solid hour. I wish WRXP had one solid hour a day.

You can't just start playing whatever the kids think is hot at the moment. Because they usually don't think its hot for long. Everyone with a computer could say Vampire Weekend's next record is the best thing ever recorded in the history of the world!!!! But it if doesn't have a hook, it ain't going to see the light of day on the radio. See Tv On The Radio to prove that theory.

This isn't my philosophy, this is the way it works. The mold ain't going to be broken because 'a lot' of people like alternative music... dummy!
 
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