Doug McIntyre Back To KABC Morning Drive

[DToTheJ]

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/100042/doug-mcintyre-returns-to-kabc-mornings

What happens to Tilden?

 

[ChannelFlipper]

Another fantastically-new, out-of-the-box, not-at-all-like-they-used-to-do, idea. Or not.

I have more ideas in my sleep then the KABC brass have in running their radio station.

Perhaps Doug can explain to us why Obama is better than this year's Republican candidate, because that enlightenment worked out so well the last time.

 

[SimiRadioListener26]

So it turns out whoever said T-Rae was joining McIntyre in the morning wasn't trolling after all. KFI must really have been paying her dirt cheap for her to jump onto this sinking ship.

 

[emailfailed]

Perhaps T-Rae will follow the footsteps of John and Ken circa 1999-2000 and come back to KFI.

Did Cumulus, being the penny watchers they are, really offer her something better than KFI?

Maybe she knows at some point the talk might show up at 95.5, but with KLOS billing a little better than okay I don't see that happening.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

I think terrie leaving kfi is kinda like when katie couric left the today show it just comes to a point where you have done something for so long and when money doesnt really matter to much you want to try something different but i bet john and ken did say "yep we can tell you when we did mornings on kabc stories" so we shall see i think it is a smart move on cumulus part I am shocked they are ponying up the coin???

It is funny mr mcintyre is going back to the same job he got fired from lol

 

[westfield60]

KABC management is probably the worst in the history of radio. They apparently have no short term memory.

First it was Larry Elder who couldn't draw an audience even if the audience was paid to show up. So after years of letting their audience bleed over to other stations they finally fired the deadweight Elder in 2008. Then guess what they bring him back. Has anyone noticed any ratings rise for KABC? I think the last time I checked it was the lowest recorded ratings in the history of the station.

Now it is Doug McIntyre's shot (Again) at morning radio. Remind me again, didn't he fail also at that timeslot. I just don't get how these program directors still have a job. Only a fool will try the same thing over expecting a different result when none of the elements have changed.

 

[SimiRadioListener26]

KABC management is probably the worst in the history of radio. They apparently have no short term memory.

First it was Larry Elder who couldn't draw an audience even if the audience was paid to show up. So after years of letting their audience bleed over to other stations they finally fired the deadweight Elder in 2008. Then guess what they bring him back. Has anyone noticed any ratings rise for KABC? I think the last time I checked it was the lowest recorded ratings in the history of the station.

This is not entirely fair. Larry was put in afternoon drive, not an appropriate slot for him anyway, and they kept preempting his show for Dodger games. When they brought him back they put him in a more appropriate timeslot, mid-morning.

 

[rosariorose9]

KABC management is probably the worst in the history of radio. They apparently have no short term memory.

First it was Larry Elder who couldn't draw an audience even if the audience was paid to show up. So after years of letting their audience bleed over to other stations they finally fired the deadweight Elder in 2008. Then guess what they bring him back. Has anyone noticed any ratings rise for KABC? I think the last time I checked it was the lowest recorded ratings in the history of the station.

This is not entirely fair. Larry was put in afternoon drive, not an appropriate slot for him anyway, and they kept preempting his show for Dodger games. When they brought him back they put him in a more appropriate timeslot, mid-morning.

And his ratings skyrocketed!! Uh, no, not exactly.

I don't know, I really respect Doug, and I'm glad to see him back in the morning slot where I can listen to more of his show than I could when he was on in the middle of the night. I only hope that he has a contract guarantee for a time period long enough to make this financially worth his while to give up his overnight slot, because I don't see this ending well. Take a lesson from Leykis...

 

[MC]

Remember when John said on the air that "she had a nice set" ?? (T-Rae) People might be going for a longer contract, like a year or two longer. KABC keeps going back t the same people, who's next Alred or Jackson?

 

[westfield60]

I do like Doug and will probably once in a while check in on him if I can draw myself from Handel (probably when that stiff and brainless Bill Carroll is replacing him). But surprise surprise, I actually have grown quite fond of the Glee boys in the evening over there. John Phillips and his boy Wonder Nathan Baker. That total idiot Tim Conway Jr. has become unbearable to listen to so I have had to park my station elsewhere in the evenings and it was a nice transition from the GLEE boys to Doug.

While I do like the GLEE boys, I don't like it that they are so madly in love with Ann Coulter and basically she runs right over them unchallenged the several times a month that she makes the appearance over on that show. I don't quite get it, Al Rantel used to have a crush on her too. What is it about those KABC boys.

 

[henry]

I think terrie leaving kfi is kinda like when katie couric left the today show it just comes to a point where you have done something for so long and when money doesnt really matter to much you want to try something different

You may be right. I can't see KABC as a "step up" by any stretch. And I really doubt she makes a terribly higher salary with Cumulus, either.

But it's not like she can't say she never had a successful career. Even if she just retired, I'd say 18 years on KFI is a huge accomplishment.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Weird i must say doug is going back to his old job where he got fired from from some unknown reason???I know different owners but still. Just like when clear channel fired ziegler at there station in my hometown of louisville ky and put him on kfi.

I think kabc should hire him that would be something new and not going back to the same old same old.Mr ziegler just needs to behave.

 

[youngsag]

I thought Doug McIntyre's last national show was good. He repeatedly noted that he wanted to remain with Red Eye for the rest of his life. I believed him. He worked the show like a comfy old show and made Red Eye personal to the listeners. One must conclude that the baseball like "trade for the good of the team" that he repeated said took place moving him not by choice from a national perch to a local station not doing too well, was perhaps less than fully candid. McIntyre is well suited for Red Eye and for late or overnight radio. He has the personality for it and, based on the callers whose bond with Doug appears quite real and sincere, many listeners will feel his loss across the country. How he (and his music) will attempt to fit into KABC's morning drive will an interesting challenge. As well, while another poster correctly stated that Doug's Red Eye show appeared to be lacking in advertisers and maybe wasn't a profit center, will his new show make money and ratings for bedraggled KABC?

KABC was for many, many years the standard against which other talk stations were measured. KABC was great and held court at or near the top of the tier for decades. For years, KLAC, KGIL, KIEV, and more so KFI, worked to hold a candle to the live, local, consistent excellence that was KABC. Now not even a shadow of its former self, one wonders how and why the long fall from grace came about and what might be done to reverse it. Doug and Elmer for morning drive might help at the margins. But they need a big break-out in live, local programs (you know, talk shows that are interesting and that take calls - what a concept of talk programming: taking calls!).

Lastly, for years I wondered why departing talkers and hosts are generally not given a last show (see Ladd, KLOS) to thank loyal listeners and staff. Listening to Tilden over the last week or two provided the answer. No last shows or weeks to simply make a bad or toxic situation worse.

A simply awful show for a long, long time well before news of the programming change, Tilden has achieved what I thought was something simply impossible: His KABC show is now worse than ever. The man who promised on his very first day back at KABC mornings to work harder than ever, to be the best prepared, etc., simply drifted downward over the last two years to find and envelope all that is true mediocrity. Now, as he is soon to leave mornings (and the station??), his morning show is nothing less than an embarrassment to KABC, to the history and integrity of KABC (which, again, factually was a shining beacon of a station), KABC's dwindling listenership (can it be recovered??), and to himself.

So no more, please. Shut Tilden's microphone now -- right now -- before the new morning team starts Jan 3rd. The long good-bye, and Tilden's on-air complaints (down to the ages-old chair he suffers loudly and the always dirty mic he finds on Monday mornings after the weekend infomercial guys have slobbered over it, and, hmmm, his shall I say "exaggerations" that are getting worse and easier to disprove) combine to make what was an already sloppy show painfully hard to listen to as it nears its end; his limited credibility long-since over.

Shutting Tilden down now, if nothing else, may provide McIntyre as much of a clean slate as is possible to begin the long task of KABC's attempted rebuild. P.S.: A morning drive talk show CAN take listener calls and do news, traffic, stock reports, and place many paid commercials. Not a secret recipe. Can be done and was done successfully for years here in Los Angeles and elsewhere.

KABC can work. It can rise again. Live, local, tight, consistent (but with variety and no talk shows reairs) news/talk programs that take calls, that talk to political and other newsmakers on an up-to-the-minute basis, kicking up the sorely lacking news standards and product, and, to be sure, the selling or re-selling of KABC to audience and natl/local advertisers will take time, money, great people and a great team -- it can be done. This old talk radio producer and occasional on-air guy from KLAC, others, won't be holding his breath but will be hoping for the best for Talkradio 790 KABC.