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DVD Archiving

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Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or DVD+RW? Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and wav files? What did you discover the hard way about digital archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?
 
> Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or DVD+RW?
> Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and wav
> files? What did you discover the hard way about digital
> archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?
>

For stuff like station imaging and client jingles and things I need pretty handily, I still burn to a disk and separate them that way. For just "backing up" purposes, I have a cruzer mini with 1G of storage on it. It plugs into the USB and I can take things on and off as I need to.

Hope that helps.

SC
 
> Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or DVD+RW?
> Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and wav
> files? What did you discover the hard way about digital
> archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?
>

I save everything to my hard drive, then once a week back up all audio to a second hard drive inside my PC tower. I have an external hard drive (250 gigs)that I transfer all audio to every month. I highly recommend an external hard drive with USB 2 connection. It was very helpful when I had to take lots 'o audio produced at my home studio to the station to transfer to their computers.<P ID="signature">______________
Igor
www.IgorRadio.com</P>
 
> > Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or
> DVD+RW?
> > Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and
> wav
> > files? What did you discover the hard way about digital
> > archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?
> >
>
> I save everything to my hard drive, then once a week back up
> all audio to a second hard drive inside my PC tower. I have
> an external hard drive (250 gigs)that I transfer all audio
> to every month. I highly recommend an external hard drive
> with USB 2 connection. It was very helpful when I had to
> take lots 'o audio produced at my home studio to the station
> to transfer to their computers.
>


Hey Igor!
I do somewhat the same. I have 2 hard drives, a 60 C and a 120 D. I also have an 80gb external, mostly filled with a lot of oldies tunes, but I do use it to transfer prod to take into work...or I just upload to the station ftp if the files are nominal in size.

Chuck
 
> > Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or
> DVD+RW?
> > Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and
> wav
> > files? What did you discover the hard way about digital
> > archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?
> >
>
> I save everything to my hard drive, then once a week back up
> all audio to a second hard drive inside my PC tower. I have
> an external hard drive (250 gigs)that I transfer all audio
> to every month. I highly recommend an external hard drive
> with USB 2 connection. It was very helpful when I had to
> take lots 'o audio produced at my home studio to the station
> to transfer to their computers.

I too have an external 250 GB hard drive, and everything I use and produce is on it. That makes it easy to always have the same resources handy whether I'm working out of the station or my home studio. My new machine at home has a 200 GB hard drive that I'm using to back up files.

I'm starting to run relatively low on space on the external drive. I know I've got a lot of crap that can be cleared off, but aside from that, I'm planning to archive rarely- or never-used files to data DVDs. A couple of my peers have suggested maximizing availble space by converting WAV files to 320 kbps MP3 files when archiving, which I may do with certain things on a selective basis.
 
>
> Hey Igor!
> I do somewhat the same. I have 2 hard drives, a 60 C and a
> 120 D. I also have an 80gb external, mostly filled with a
> lot of oldies tunes, but I do use it to transfer prod to
> take into work...or I just upload to the station ftp if the
> files are nominal in size.
>
> Chuck
>

Yo Chuck!!
Yeah, I have an 80 gig C and 120 D drive. And yes, I have MEGA amounts of music too! Including about 1,300 oldies spanning from 1952 to 1974. I'm an mp3 NUT when it comes to music libraries... I'd be devistated if my hard drive decided to crash (again)! That's why I have the double backup system in place.

To address the original post, I don't think it matters which DVD format you use. I think most regular DVD players are DVD- compatable. That is the reason why I use DVD- whenever I burn mp3s to DVD... ya just never know when you need to turn someone's DVD player into a jukebox by hooking it up to the stereo system!! <P ID="signature">______________
Igor
www.IgorRadio.com</P>
 
> Yo Chuck!!
> Yeah, I have an 80 gig C and 120 D drive. And yes, I have
> MEGA amounts of music too! Including about 1,300 oldies
> spanning from 1952 to 1974. I'm an mp3 NUT when it comes to
> music libraries... I'd be devistated if my hard drive
> decided to crash (again)! That's why I have the double
> backup system in place.
>
> To address the original post, I don't think it matters which
> DVD format you use. I think most regular DVD players are
> DVD- compatable. That is the reason why I use DVD- whenever
> I burn mp3s to DVD... ya just never know when you need to
> turn someone's DVD player into a jukebox by hooking it up to
> the stereo system!!

Backing up on DVD is better than cd in that there's more room. One DVD equals 8 cd's...something like that. My buddt ay WKLS does it. I have yet to get a DVD burner for my pc. It's on the list...along with a Neumann U87...one of these daze!
<P ID="signature">______________
Chuck Matthews Productions
www.KillerImaging.com
http://chuckmatthews1.voice123.com/</P>
 
I burn everything to either CD or DVD for archiving. I also have a Microsoft Access cross reference database of the entire archive library. The library contains the actual Pro-Tools sessions so when the sales department asks to bring back a spot from 2002 but the phone number or web site has changed I can easily dump the session back onto the hard drive and open the session. It's exactly the way the producer left it! Works great for imaging too! Especially when you loved the "cue to call" you produced last year. Open the session and remix it a little and all of a sudden it's a new imager.












> > Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or
> DVD+RW?
> > Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and
> wav
> > files? What did you discover the hard way about digital
> > archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?
> >
>
> For stuff like station imaging and client jingles and things
> I need pretty handily, I still burn to a disk and separate
> them that way. For just "backing up" purposes, I have a
> cruzer mini with 1G of storage on it. It plugs into the USB
> and I can take things on and off as I need to.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> SC
>
 
> I burn everything to either CD or DVD for archiving. I also
> have a Microsoft Access cross reference database of the
> entire archive library. The library contains the actual
> Pro-Tools sessions so when the sales department asks to
> bring back a spot from 2002 but the phone number or web site
> has changed I can easily dump the session back onto the hard
> drive and open the session. It's exactly the way the
> producer left it! Works great for imaging too! Especially
> when you loved the "cue to call" you produced last year.
> Open the session and remix it a little and all of a sudden
> it's a new imager.
>

That's my plan...external, easily-accessible, and incremental storage of masters and dubs (like we used to do with ten and a half inch reels) and production-intensive Pro-Tools sessions. I hope to avoid the unintended consequences others may have experienced doing this. btw evan...how many Protools workstations do you have, and are they networked?
 
We have two rooms with Windoze 001 systems and I have the 001 system at home as well on Mac. I am linked via PCAnywhere from home so I can access my production computer or anything at our station via the network. It's very handy when you forget something or need a song hook. We move PT sessions over the network quite often and the Import Session Data command in PT works very well for somethings such as pulling in a voiceover that some cut in another room.

The world without Digidesign is a very boring one!









>
 
> Anybody on this board archiving spots via DVD-RW or DVD+RW?
> Of the two media, which works better for storing mp3 and wav
> files? What did you discover the hard way about digital
> archiving (other than hard drives DO fail)?

The difficult part about using DVD for archive is managing the various media once you have burned them. Yes, they store large volumes of data compared to what we are used to in the past. But at some point you will fill up multiple DVDs and it becomes an issue to catalog them and search thru them, etc.

LTO tape backup is great for long term storage solutions. Seagate/Certance has an entry level unit that backs up 200GB uncompressed or 400GB compressed for less than $2,000. See: http://www.superwarehouse.com/Certance_CL_400H_LTO_Ultrium_Tape_Drive/CL1001-R/p/434121 The backup tapes are very inexpensive, for the amount of data they store...

I found something useful for backups that need to be shared over a network, like from home to work or outbound to clients. Mirra (http://www.mirra.com) has servers as large as 400GB for $799 with some neat features. Check out the website. I recommended this to a photographer friend that needed to share proofs with customers and the Mirra product seemed a good fit. Then I recommended LTO tapes as a long term backup for images that he wanted to keep but did not need to provide client access to.

Mega
 
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