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DX vs HD vs Laws

I didn't want to get into the fray in the "Crack Me Up" thread, but it seems some of the proponents of IBOC are ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room. The reason the DXer's are upset is that a hobby that is old as the medium itself is 1: being mocked by some who don't understand that, and 2: the IBOC interference would NEVER be allowed as sideband splatter on AM or FM.

Us oldtimers got into this business because of the romantic notion of a listener hundreds or even thousands of miles away. Just as I would listen to WCFL, WLS, CKLW, KB15 in eastern Pennsylvania as a kid, I today get thrilled when a piece of mail comes from Greenland, Iceland, Norway or Scotland with a reception report of the little 1kw local signal I work at along the east coast of US.

Us oldtimers remember the nausiousness before taking our FCC exams to be able to operate a transmitter and get crappy pay for working at our first commercial station. I remember screwing up the morse code test three times, and drawing a power supply circuit that would have killed anyone who touched it. But I finally passed (only to have it later brought down to a General License).

I don't know oldtimers. Maybe it's time we hung up our headphones and keys. Even the Coast Guard has stopped Morse Code practices. There is so much hash and manmade noise on the AM band, it's near impossible to do any out of town listening in a metropolitan area, day or night.

Maybe it's time we stop worrying about the youngin's self destruction of the Commercial Broadcast bands. When the whole band is totally unlistenable, they'll turn to us to fix it. But youngin's you'll need to remember this: ... --- ...
 
From Maryland, I can still get very clearly, south to WWL New Orleans, west to WHO Des Moines, and north to Canada. Unfortunately, the days of hearing west to KSL SLC are over.
 
I understand the HD cartel have mandated mobile, intercity, suburban, rural, and DX radio listening a capitol offense. ::)
Unauthorized radio listening is now punishable by death.
 
The other night I was listening to KOA Denver up here in Minnesota, and the host took a call from a listener in Oklahoma City. Doesn't this fly in the face of official Clear Channel policy that all listening must be local now?
 
wkbam1690 said:
The other night I was listening to KOA Denver up here in Minnesota, and the host took a call from a listener in Oklahoma City. Doesn't this fly in the face of official Clear Channel policy that all listening must be local now?

Lucky you - I have been trying to get KOA from Maryland, but to no avail. I listen to Scott Sloan WLW AM nighttime, and he gets calls from all over the US, East of the Rockies - I can't imagine that all his listeners are on XM channel 173. Eduardo keeps touting that we have no right to DX, but I wonder, how many listeners Sloan and others would lose, if IBOC were approved for nighttime AM. Truck'in Network seems to get a lot of calls from truckers with XM, but have not heard any of them mention AM.
 
HD Ready said:
Why do you guys try so hard to get these terestrial stations? I thought you hated terestrial radio.

Personally, I never stated that I hated terrestrial radio - unfortunately, 90% is the same old, and that is partly why HD Radio will fail.
 
amfmsw said:
Maybe it's time we stop worrying about the youngin's self destruction of the Commercial Broadcast bands. When the whole band is totally unlistenable, they'll turn to us to fix it. But youngin's you'll need to remember this: ... --- ...

Are you from the Commission? If you're not - it's highly unlikely us "youngins" will be turning to you for anything.

I can appreciate the nostalgia you attach to DXing, but unfortunately nostalgia doesn't pay very well.

Personally, I have nothing against AM IBOC, but I think it's a waste of time and money. FM on the other hand shows great promise because of multicasting.
 
ElCheapo said:
amfmsw said:
Maybe it's time we stop worrying about the youngin's self destruction of the Commercial Broadcast bands. When the whole band is totally unlistenable, they'll turn to us to fix it. But youngin's you'll need to remember this: ... --- ...

Are you from the Commission? If you're not - it's highly unlikely us "youngins" will be turning to you for anything.

I can appreciate the nostalgia you attach to DXing, but unfortunately nostalgia doesn't pay very well.

Personally, I have nothing against AM IBOC, but I think it's a waste of time and money. FM on the other hand shows great promise because of multicasting.

FM IBOC still causes adjacent-channel interference, as confirmed by the CPB's report to the Fall 2006 NAB conference; besides, no one is interested in HD Radio.
 
700WLW said:
FM IBOC still causes adjacent-channel interference, as confirmed by the CPB's report to the Fall 2006 NAB conference; besides, no one is interested in HD Radio.

It's hard to be interested in something you know virtually nothing about.
 
ElCheapo said:
amfmsw said:
Maybe it's time we stop worrying about the youngin's self destruction of the Commercial Broadcast bands. When the whole band is totally unlistenable, they'll turn to us to fix it. But youngin's you'll need to remember this: ... --- ...

Are you from the Commission? If you're not - it's highly unlikely us "youngins" will be turning to you for anything.

I can appreciate the nostalgia you attach to DXing, but unfortunately nostalgia doesn't pay very well.

Personally, I have nothing against AM IBOC, but I think it's a waste of time and money. FM on the other hand shows great promise because of multicasting.
Why bother with HD Radio just to digitally multicast?
FMeXtra: www.dreinc.com
Much better coverage then defective, expensive, jamming, over complicated, incompatible, problematic, proprietary, HD Radio and at full power!
 
ElCheapo said:
700WLW said:
FM IBOC still causes adjacent-channel interference, as confirmed by the CPB's report to the Fall 2006 NAB conference; besides, no one is interested in HD Radio.

It's hard to be interested in something you know virtually nothing about.

SUPERCASTER,

See, what I mean about the cheap personal attacks - that was an excellent study put out by the CPB, so all ElCheapo can do is resort to personal attacks.
 
700WLW said:
ElCheapo said:
700WLW said:
FM IBOC still causes adjacent-channel interference, as confirmed by the CPB's report to the Fall 2006 NAB conference; besides, no one is interested in HD Radio.

It's hard to be interested in something you know virtually nothing about.

SUPERCASTER,

See, what I mean about the cheap personal attacks - that was an excellent study put out by the CPB, so all ElCheapo can do is resort to personal attacks.
He has probably not read or understood the CPB engineering report, and does not care about reality, because he resides in the wonderland of Hype (south of Oz).
 
ElCheapo said:
700WLW said:
FM IBOC still causes adjacent-channel interference, as confirmed by the CPB's report to the Fall 2006 NAB conference; besides, no one is interested in HD Radio.

It's hard to be interested in something you know virtually nothing about.
So that explains your problem, ElCheapo?
 
SUPERCASTER said:
He has probably not read or understood the CPB engineering report, and does not care about reality, because he resides in the wonderland of Hype (south of Oz).

Honestly, I couldn't care less what the Corporation for Public Broadcasting says.

I did some work for a public station one time - that pretty much removes any credibility they might have in my mind.
 
ElCheapo said:
SUPERCASTER said:
He has probably not read or understood the CPB engineering report, and does not care about reality, because he resides in the wonderland of Hype (south of Oz).

Honestly, I couldn't care less what the Corporation for Public Broadcasting says.

I did some work for a public station one time - that pretty much removes any credibility they might have in my mind.

You have learned well from Eduardo, my man ! Who cares what you think - as usual, no counter-arguments of any substance ! :D
 
700WLW said:
You have learned well from Eduardo, my man ! Who cares what you think - as usual, no counter-arguments of any substance ! :D

And this comment was of some substance? What a waste of bandwidth...
 
ElCheapo said:
SUPERCASTER said:
He has probably not read or understood the CPB engineering report, and does not care about reality, because he resides in the wonderland of Hype (south of Oz).

Honestly, I couldn't care less what the Corporation for Public Broadcasting says.

I did some work for a public station one time - that pretty much removes any credibility they might have in my mind.


Honestly, I couldn't care less what the NAB says.

I did some work for a commercial station one time - that pretty much removes any credibility they might have in my mind.

;)
 
audiophile. said:
Honestly, I couldn't care less what the NAB says.

I did some work for a commercial station one time - that pretty much removes any credibility they might have in my mind.

;)

Well, at least the commercial broadcasters have to turn a profit or die. That's powerful incentive to get it right.

They can't extract money from your wallet using Uncle Sam's gestapo like the CPB.
 
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