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DX'ing your Hometown stations

cd637299 said:
^ Sorry to go OT, and this will be my last question on this thread re WOKJ:

Then, couldn't another entity have applied for the 1550 frequency & array? Isn't the pattern still protected? It's been 35 years, hasn't it?

[*Wanting* an AM station in 2013 is another issue.]

cd

There is a pretty long thread about WOKJ some time back on the Mississippi board... Its a long complicated story...

All the best,

wh
 
Years ago I went on a cruise to around Puerto Rico,Haiti and the Virgin Islands and heard 750 WSB clear as a bell at night. ;D
 
Wonder how KGOW 1560 does down there near Jamaica, Puerto Rico, etc. I know KGOW makes it to Honduras!

-crainbebo
 
crainbebo said:
Wonder how KGOW 1560 does down there near Jamaica, Puerto Rico, etc. I know KGOW makes it to Honduras!

-crainbebo

Well I can tell you that unless it's another sports station on 1560, KGOW dominates 1560 in south FL.

Unless it signed off, there is a 1560 in PR IIRC.

cd
 
Where I am, KGOW dominates most of the time at night but when I null it out, often I can hear WQEW from New York.
 
DeadElvis said:
I'm not completely sure when WOKJ went dark. But I can say that when I moved to Jackson to program and do mornings at the former Majic 107 in 1988, WOKJ was still on. It was country -- really country with "Hillbilly Willie" doing nights.

The station didn't last too long after that.

DE

WOKJ went off the air sometime around 1990. They were sold by their parent company and the new owners flipped it to classic country for a while. For a short time it was heavy metal hair bands before going off the air for not paying the light bill. the tower lights were dark and they were fined by the FCC. They didn't pay the fine and the license was deleted. the station had technical problems and was seldom on daytime power prior to going silent. Apparently no one wanted to spend any money to fix it up. In it's heyday it had a pretty mean signal, but had spotty local coverage because it was directional. The original owners sold it so they could buy a 1000 watt station in town. The smaller station on 1400 AM became top rated while 50,000 watt WOKJ went down the dumper.
 
flytrap said:
DeadElvis said:
I'm not completely sure when WOKJ went dark. But I can say that when I moved to Jackson to program and do mornings at the former Majic 107 in 1988, WOKJ was still on. It was country -- really country with "Hillbilly Willie" doing nights.

The station didn't last too long after that.

DE

WOKJ went off the air sometime around 1990. They were sold by their parent company and the new owners flipped it to classic country for a while. For a short time it was heavy metal hair bands before going off the air for not paying the light bill. the tower lights were dark and they were fined by the FCC. They didn't pay the fine and the license was deleted. the station had technical problems and was seldom on daytime power prior to going silent. Apparently no one wanted to spend any money to fix it up. In it's heyday it had a pretty mean signal, but had spotty local coverage because it was directional. The original owners sold it so they could buy a 1000 watt station in town. The smaller station on 1400 AM became top rated while 50,000 watt WOKJ went down the dumper.
Kind of sad that the owners sold a 50kW station in order to buy a graveyard AM.

Back on topic, I have gotten many Grand Rapids stations in Manistee (including some of the Class A stations)
 
ftballfan said:
Kind of sad that the owners sold a 50kW station in order to buy a graveyard AM.

Actually, when I read the story in the earlier post, it made perfect sense to me. The evolution of AM radio has been such that having a 50kw highly directional top of the dial signal in an area with so-so ground conductivity (at best) doesn't mean much in terms of attracting advertising revenue. But such a facility would be very expensive to operate and a deteriorating physical plant would be prohibitively costly to upgrade. Jackson is a fairly compact city/metro area. The 1400 stick is in a good location (I've driven by it a number of times). And the signal is more than adequate for covering most, if not all, of its intended target area....at a fraction of what it would cost with all the wasted RF that would go with 1550.

Jackson has also had other longtime dark stations...5kw NDD on 720 and 780. At first blush, those would seem to be attractive. But "upon further review," the little graveyard facility turns out to be the appropriate solution.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic. ....already in progress. ;D
 
cyberdad said:
Jackson has also had other longtime dark stations...5kw NDD on 720 and 780. At first blush, those would seem to be attractive. But "upon further review," the little graveyard facility turns out to be the appropriate solution.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic. ....already in progress. ;D

Hang on, not quite yet… Just wanted to say 780 is on the air as WIIN. I think it runs an urban format with an FM translator that can run 24 hours a day. There's a CP that looks like it's being co-located with 620.
 
I knew that the Jackson 780 had come back not long ago, but I wasn't sure if they were still on. I went through Jackson a few months ago, but didn't have the radio on, so I didn't hear it. (streaming internet instead). Anyway, I was referring to the fact that 780 had been dark previously for some time. Hopefully co-locating with WJDX and adding a translator will produce a "happy ending" for this facility.
 
Zach said:
cyberdad said:
Jackson has also had other longtime dark stations...5kw NDD on 720 and 780. At first blush, those would seem to be attractive. But "upon further review," the little graveyard facility turns out to be the appropriate solution.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic. ....already in progress. ;D

Hang on, not quite yet… Just wanted to say 780 is on the air as WIIN. I think it runs an urban format with an FM translator that can run 24 hours a day. There's a CP that looks like it's being co-located with 620.
WIIN runs an all-Beatles format, according to Wikipedia. And it is simulcast on FM 92.9, which runs 24 hours. Also according to Wiki, 780 was off the air from July 2009-May 2010 and July 2010-June 2011.
 
WIIN 780 has been back a while. First simulcasting it's FM sister station US96.3. flipped to Beatles back in December. DXers may be able to hear it under Chicago in early hours. They have been signing on when it is still dark out. WIIN sounds like crap and they refuse to fix it. It sounded good when it simulcasted US96.3 but since Christmas they have only had one channel of the audio into the transmitter. Half of the Beatles songs have the vocals recorded on that channel so you can imagine what that sounds like with no vocals. They also feed their transmitter with an FM radio tuned to their translator. When the FM goes down, you hear garbled gibberish and white noise on AM or sometimes another station on 92.9 can be heard. The AM audio has also been so badly distorted that it is unlistenable. If you DX it and you hear some really crappy sounding beatles, you've found it. Sounds like all they'd have to do is turn down the volume a little and go to the Shack and get a Y adapter and they'd be good to go. But they aren't going to do it. They don't seem to think anyone is listening to the 5000 watt AM side as long as they have their little 58 watt FM.
 
flytrap said:
WIIN 780 has been back a while. First simulcasting it's FM sister station US96.3. flipped to Beatles back in December. DXers may be able to hear it under Chicago in early hours. They have been signing on when it is still dark out. WIIN sounds like crap and they refuse to fix it. It sounded good when it simulcasted US96.3 but since Christmas they have only had one channel of the audio into the transmitter. Half of the Beatles songs have the vocals recorded on that channel so you can imagine what that sounds like with no vocals. They also feed their transmitter with an FM radio tuned to their translator. When the FM goes down, you hear garbled gibberish and white noise on AM or sometimes another station on 92.9 can be heard. The AM audio has also been so badly distorted that it is unlistenable. If you DX it and you hear some really crappy sounding beatles, you've found it. Sounds like all they'd have to do is turn down the volume a little and go to the Shack and get a Y adapter and they'd be good to go. But they aren't going to do it. They don't seem to think anyone is listening to the 5000 watt AM side as long as they have their little 58 watt FM.
Said 92.9 looks to be short spaced to a full-powered 92.9 in Hazlehurst.
 
Reading through this thread reminds me that during any of my travels out of the Puget Sound area, I've never tried to see how the home stations are received....

Always was trying to hear other stuff I couldn't hear from home, I guess.
 
I always check the Charleston FMs to see how far they go. 92.5 and 103.5 are two of the strongest. I've heard them in Brunswick, GA, and I have heard them near Wilmington as well.

I've heard Savannah FMs (which I almost always get) like 106.9 and 98.7 as far south as the the Gulf beaches near St. Petersburg on the top floor. Back in the analog TV days, there were times where I'd get the local Charleston stations audio as far S as Daytona Beach. WTOC 11 audio could also be heard there with good DX.

I remember one night I was there and there was a signal on every VHF channel. 2 from Daytona, 3 from Tampa or Savannah, 4 from Jacksonville, 5 from West Palm Beach, 6 from Orlando, 7 from Jacksonville, 8 from Tampa, 9 from Orlando, 10 from Miami, 11 from Savannah, 12 from Jacksonville, and 13 from Tampa.
 
I'm not sure what to consider my hometown since I've lived in some different places, but I grew up in west central Ohio in the triangle among Fort Wayne, Dayton and Lima stations, so we'll go from there.
In Fremont, Michigan on vacation in my pre-teen years I'd listen to WGRD-1410 days and immediately after their sign off, WING in Dayton would make it in. I'd heard WOWO all over the east and southeast, even in Minneapolis at night. WOWO was almost local to me growing up. When I lived in Quincy, IL, WOWO was a before sunset and after sunrise catch due to the western null.
I spent 18 years in Dayton, OH and moved to Knoxville TN in 2010. Here in East Tennessee, I've received all 3 of the 5kW Dayton AMs (WONE (even w/ local WNML next door); WHIO (usually after sunrise when they go ND) and WING-1410. During a winter day with good daytime skip I even had WING and WHIO at 2pm CST in a Nashville suburb. From Cincinnati of course WLW and WCKY, I've not positively IDed WSAI or any other Cincy area AM. On the FM dial I managed once to DX WFCJ and WGTZ.
After living in Quincy, I heard my former employer KGRC in Lafayette, IN, and WTAD in Middletown OH (day pattern due to sports?).
 
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